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Sanity -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:03:45 AM)


You quoted him! [:D]

This is clipped from your own post  - he said:

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I saw a clip of it on the BBC news channel yesterday and it was curious to note that the audience was literally 100% white and all of a certain age,



thishereboi -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:09:54 AM)

Peacefulplace said "Glenn Beck is a charlatan in the same way that Palin is. Or that Limbaugh is. They are in it for fame and big bucks; they are publicity whores."

I replied and explained that most entertainers are in it for fame and big bucks.

Now you are trying to spin it in a totally different direction. If you want to start a thread on Rush having power in the repub party, go for it. But it doesn't have anything to do with what I said.



tazzygirl -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:09:57 AM)

If thats all the BBC clip showed, his comment makes perfect sense.



thishereboi -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:14:25 AM)

I was pointing out that claiming 100% where white was a lie. You do understand what a lie is don't you? I am also not trying to imply anything about the teabaggers. I haven't made it to a rally yet and don't have enough facts to make a judgement. Now I could just go ahead and claim they are all racist and not bother with things like facts, but that would be stupid and people would start thinking I was slipping to the left.





StrangerThan -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:19:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

If thats all the BBC clip showed, his comment makes perfect sense.


There's another note-worthy aspect of this rally, one that is perhaps quintessentially Democratic.

Protests at a non-political event to honor fallen soldiers.




tazzygirl -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:33:05 AM)

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Protests at a non-political event to honor fallen soldiers.


You cannot be that naive.



StrangerThan -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:36:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Protests at a non-political event to honor fallen soldiers.


You cannot be that naive.


What I am not, is that cynical.

What I won't be is spinning myself into a tizzy trying my best to paint it as everything other than what it was.





tazzygirl -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:39:35 AM)

Very few things done in washington on this scale are not politically motivated. To believe this rally was one of the rare events is extremely naive. No spin required. [:D]



StrangerThan -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:40:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Very few things done in washington on this scale are not politically motivated. To believe this rally was one of the rare events is extremely naive. No spin required. [:D]


Since you happen to be the link queen, show me. I'll appreciate it because I haven';t found it to be political in nature at all.



domiguy -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 6:56:19 AM)

Because Beck does not talk about politics or work for an organization that is political minded does not mean this event was not political....I am glad you are not on Fet.



truckinslave -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:00:55 AM)

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I'll appreciate it because I haven';t found it to be political in nature at all.


One fact that people who got their opinion about Beck from other radio/TV personalities, rather than by listening to the guy themselves, will never believe is how non-political, and non-partisan, the guy is.

I'm not a real devotee, but I do find some of the historical stuff to be fascinating.



tazzygirl -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:04:10 AM)

~chuckles

Do you honestly believe the NRA isnt politcally inclined?

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I know that when you say an event is "non-political," the first thing that would pop into your head is...the National Rifle Association!. Other than the fact that the NRA is frequently named as the most influential lobbyist outfit on Capitol Hill and has its hands not just on all things gun-related but also everything else from campaign-finance reform to health care, this icon of the gun lobby doesn't have a political bone in its body, right?


http://mediamatters.org/blog/201007260065

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Beck, considered by many the spiritual leader of the Tea Party and someone who champions the movement's causes, said the rally will "reclaim the civil rights movement," which he described as having been "distorted" and "turned upside down."

"We are on the right side of history. We are on the side of individual freedoms and liberties, and damn it, we will reclaim the civil rights movement."

Brittney Cooper, a professor of gender and race relations at the University of Alabama, called Beck's remarks a slap in the face not just to African-Americans, but to King's legacy.

"It's insulting, and Dr. King would have been completely disheartened to see that race relations in the United States are polarized and getting worse, thanks to these staunch right-wing ideologies," Cooper said.

"But it fits in with a long history of conservatives trying to co-opt the civil rights movement."


http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/1190626

Now, you may want to see what you want to see on the surface. But, in reality, you and i both know politics is rarely about whats on the surface and is more about the undercurrents.

The speeches that day, on both sides, were filled with dangerous undertones and rip tides for undercurrents.



StrangerThan -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:06:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Because Beck does not talk about politics or work for an organization that is political minded does not mean this event was not political....I am glad you are not on Fet.


I am on Fet.

What I am seeing domiguy is a gnashing of teeth to find crumbs over which to grumble. Neither Beck nor his speakers gave the left meat upon which to whet their appetite. Instead they stuck to topic, requested political signs be left at home, and essentially used the event to do what they said they would do.

Instead of discussing that, we we discuss is everything else, the suppositions, the inferences that must be there because of who he is, but for some blasted reason, just can't find them. The tact at that point is usually to invent them.

If anything must be completely frustrating for the left, it isn't the size of the crowd, nor where it happened despite that little twit-fit. It is that he didn't launch into political sloganeering and bash liberals.

What have noted however, is the snarky happiness in which democratic operatives and protesters took the opportunity to introduce politics to a non-political event, one which they consistently portrayed those who attended as having a great potential for being violent, and one which they were allowed to protest at a rally for fallen soldiers without harm.

Fucking mind blowing, isn't it.



StrangerThan -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:08:18 AM)

Alveda King didn't appear to have felt slapped in the face.

But I suppose a professor a 1000 miles away knows better.

You're digging for crumbs taz.



Sanity -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:09:35 AM)


I know this would apply to the BBC:

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Overwhelmingly White Media Criticize Conservative Rallies as 'Overwhelmingly White'



Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nathan-burchfiel/2010/08/31/overwhelmingly-white-media-criticize-conservative-rallies-overwhel#ixzz0yBzb6NFe


It would apply to collarchat members as well, I am sure.  [;)]



truckinslave -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:11:30 AM)

The NRA self-identities as a "single-issue" organization. On their home page, as I recall.
They have endorsed many a Dimocrat.

Ms. Cooper might have displayed some (feigned?) outrage at this "insult" from Beck, but Dr. Alveda King spoke at the event.
Perhaps Ms Cooper knows something Martins neice doesn't. Or maybe she's just seeing Al.



tazzygirl -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:14:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Alveda King didn't appear to have felt slapped in the face.

But I suppose a professor a 1000 miles away knows better.

You're digging for crumbs taz.



Im not digging for anything. I could have cared less then, and could care even less now, how this is all viewed.

What i did speak out about was how a poster in the UK, having seen clips of the rally on TV there, may have gotten the impression it was an all white gathering based upon what he was shown... though im sure you will find some way to spin that as well.

The NRA is a big political lobbying group. Beck and Palin have done nothing but bash Obama from the beginning.... and you really believe this wasnt political. I do love your rose colored glasses. [:D]

As far as Alveda King... its in her "genes".



StrangerThan -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:20:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

Alveda King didn't appear to have felt slapped in the face.

But I suppose a professor a 1000 miles away knows better.

You're digging for crumbs taz.



Im not digging for anything. I could have cared less then, and could care even less now, how this is all viewed.

What i did speak out about was how a poster in the UK, having seen clips of the rally on TV there, may have gotten the impression it was an all white gathering based upon what he was shown... though im sure you will find some way to spin that as well.

The NRA is a big political lobbying group. Beck and Palin have done nothing but bash Obama from the beginning.... and you really believe this wasnt political. I do love your rose colored glasses. [:D]

As far as Alveda King... its in her "genes".


Then apparently, a good portion of America is missing something in their genes.

I have no rose colored glasses. I don't listen to Glen Beck. I'm looking at it as objectively as possible.

What I don';t have is piss colored glasses that I use to view anything conservative.

As far as spin goes, I'm laughing watching you folks go into tornadic depression trying to find some bitching point where you can toss one of your cards into the mix. And when it comes to what I believe and don't believe, what I believe is that it just sucks ass for the left that they stuck to topic and did what they said they were going to do.

But dems were there protesting at an event for fallen soldiers. That is not spin.

I didn't know until Lucy posted the collage of best anti pics at the rally.



StrangerThan -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:24:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Because Beck does not talk about politics or work for an organization that is political minded does not mean this event was not political....I am glad you are not on Fet.


Just curious as to why you're glad I'm not on Fet? Are there tons of people there too who argue points with little logic and a shit load of hypocrisy?

If so, I might have to come find the boards.



Sanity -> RE: Beck rally (8/31/2010 7:25:51 AM)


Thanks for making it clear that the haters were the Leftists who appeared at the Beck rally, Lucy.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-anti-glenn-beck-signs-at-the-glenn-beck-r




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