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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/6/2010 6:35:32 AM   
Aileen1968


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As far as acts go, well...in all honesty and I know I am going to get fried for this, but the day he asks me to put on a strap on and he is on his knees, ass up, while I pound him, well, I just lost my Dom. I find that about as unappealing as him calling me Mistress.

And if he doesn't ask, just buckles you into a harness, ties you spreadeagled on the bed and rides you until he's roaring at the ceiling? What then? Huh?

(Just askin'....)



I can say with 100% certainty that the scenario by vc would never happen in my world. The only thing that goes anywhere near his ass is my tongue and that's only when he wants it.

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/6/2010 7:50:48 AM   
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As far as acts go, well...in all honesty and I know I am going to get fried for this, but the day he asks me to put on a strap on and he is on his knees, ass up, while I pound him, well, I just lost my Dom. I find that about as unappealing as him calling me Mistress.

And if he doesn't ask, just buckles you into a harness, ties you spreadeagled on the bed and rides you until he's roaring at the ceiling? What then? Huh?

(Just askin'....)



Hahahahah!!  Best visual ever. lol. Thanks VC.. I am reading him this when he gets back to the office!

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/6/2010 7:52:01 AM   
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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/6/2010 8:06:10 AM   
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I find it hard to believe that life isn't so simple as the one on top ramming is the Dominant and the one on bottom getting rammed is the submissive?  One day, will I find masochists instead of sadists swinging whips because it emotionally hurts them to inflict physical pain on others?  Will it truly come to the day when the one swinging the whip and inflicting pain can't be defined as a sadist?

We're already at that point.  Service topping is alive and well.  While I'm not suggesting at all that there aren't some out there who do consider themselves sadists as well, I wouldn't say that every person out there who is inflicting pain to please a bottom is specifically a sadist.  Probably not the first thought for someone like you or I because we know exactly why we want to inflict pain on people, but there are other folks out there with different motives.


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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/6/2010 9:43:20 AM   
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Oh, and once again, what Aileen said. . 

What, that it wouldn't happen? Why, is he more the 'grunt like a wrestler' than the 'roar at the ceiling' type?




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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/6/2010 11:17:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Neither VC. Quiety but deadly kind of sums him up. Wrestler is about the least sexy word I can think of. Gangster might apply. . Pinstripes and flashy cars. Oh my....I like what I like.   

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/6/2010 11:30:43 AM   
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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/6/2010 11:32:48 AM   
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Neither VC. Quiety but deadly kind of sums him up. Wrestler is about the least sexy word I can think of. Gangster might apply. . Pinstripes and flashy cars. Oh my....I like what I like.   

Lol, I was only teasing-the only other thing I could come up with that grunts is not something I'm sure you'd appreciate me comparing your man to


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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 12:44:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

As far as acts go, well...in all honesty and I know I am going to get fried for this, but the day he asks me to put on a strap on and he is on his knees, ass up, while I pound him, well, I just lost my Dom. I find that about as unappealing as him calling me Mistress.

And if he doesn't ask, just buckles you into a harness, ties you spreadeagled on the bed and rides you until he's roaring at the ceiling? What then? Huh?

(Just askin'....)


hahahahaha OMG that is sooooooo hilarious!!! I just about died laughing at this.

~sweetsub~

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 3:44:37 AM   
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If a woman gives a man a 'reach around' when she is sucking his cock, gives him a little prostrate stimulation, is that the same as being ass-raped by a Dominatrix with the AssMaster 9000 strap on? 

I get asked about sex vs domination a lot and I think the anal sex question above illustrates it best.  The question in my mind isn't where the boundary between 1 finger or 2 fingers takes it out of the category of blow job and into anal sex.  It is a question of where being serviced ends and being dominated begins.

Taking control and grabbing someone by the hair on the nape of their neck and fucking them in the face instead of letting them suck your cock is domination.  If a Dominant is receiving the oral services of a submissive, it is indeed a much more passive act.  Depending on the level of verbal command he gives, she may indeed be in control of the pleasure he receives.  However, many feel letting a submissive prepare a nice meal affords no more control than passively receiving a nice blow job or letting the submissive get on top and give the Dominant pleasure.  The measure is who is getting serviced to gauge who is in ultimate control . . . even if the submissive has influence or control of the delivery or style of service.

Being skwered by the AssMaster 9000 is an act of domination. 

Do you see the perspective, do you agree?


If a sub has her fingers up your ass, YOU ARE HER BITCH.
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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 3:49:25 AM   
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If a sub has her fingers up your ass, YOU ARE HER BITCH.
bitch-boi...nomatter how you want to deny it.


No way.  You're claiming that there is a secret button in every Dom male's ass that magically turns him from Dom to sub?

I've never had this dome to me before, but I will have my next sub woman do it.  And it won't turn me sub, any more than it will turn me gay.


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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 4:05:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

If a woman gives a man a 'reach around' when she is sucking his cock, gives him a little prostrate stimulation, is that the same as being ass-raped by a Dominatrix with the AssMaster 9000 strap on? 

I get asked about sex vs domination a lot and I think the anal sex question above illustrates it best.  The question in my mind isn't where the boundary between 1 finger or 2 fingers takes it out of the category of blow job and into anal sex.  It is a question of where being serviced ends and being dominated begins.

Taking control and grabbing someone by the hair on the nape of their neck and fucking them in the face instead of letting them suck your cock is domination.  If a Dominant is receiving the oral services of a submissive, it is indeed a much more passive act.  Depending on the level of verbal command he gives, she may indeed be in control of the pleasure he receives.  However, many feel letting a submissive prepare a nice meal affords no more control than passively receiving a nice blow job or letting the submissive get on top and give the Dominant pleasure.  The measure is who is getting serviced to gauge who is in ultimate control . . . even if the submissive has influence or control of the delivery or style of service.

Being skwered by the AssMaster 9000 is an act of domination. 

Do you see the perspective, do you agree?


If a sub has her fingers up your ass, YOU ARE HER BITCH.
bitch-boi...nomatter how you want to deny it.



Even if both My hands are in her hair and Im so far down her throat that her drool is dripping down My thighs and on her breasts? I gotta say that you're full of shit on that one.

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 4:56:53 AM   
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I've never had this dome to me before, but I will have my next sub woman do it. 

Stevie darling, you haven't lived. It's one of the most nerve-enriched areas of the body. You have some fun ahead of you

And sweetsub, glad you enjoyed! 


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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 7:02:52 AM   
ResidentSadist


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If a sub has her fingers up your ass, YOU ARE HER BITCH.
bitch-boi...nomatter how you want to deny it.

There are a great many who would agree.

There are also those that think the dominant act of face raping, cancels the act of anal submission.  To them, it's a matter of how much more aggressive than submissive they are being i.e. how many finger are up the ass.  So if a guy is just mildly sliding his cock in and out while she is violently ramming his ass, double fisted, then it is a submissive act on his part.  Sorta' like the "anything more than 3 fingers makes it gay" rule.

There are also those that feel cross dressing, getting on all fours and taking a giant Ass Master 9000 strap-on dildo up the ass is not an act of submission . . . if they have asked for it.  

Although I voice the narrow minded or incorrect opinions of others, I never proclaimed them as my own.  I am seeking replies to shed light on a topic that so many of you ask me about.  I have an overly acute awareness of domination and submission.  When I walk into a room, I know who is or isn't dominant in a few seconds.  It is my hope that this thread will uncover those tools and measures we use to judge peoples level of D or s by.

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 8:46:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I've never had this dome to me before, but I will have my next sub woman do it. 

Stevie darling, you haven't lived. It's one of the most nerve-enriched areas of the body. You have some fun ahead of you.



You're just trying to turn me sub!!!

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 9:15:15 AM   
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I can say with 100% certainty that the scenario by vc would never happen in my world. The only thing that goes anywhere near his ass is my tongue and that's only when he wants it.


So, it is ok to use your tongue to bring him pleasure, but not ok to use your fingers?

Is that merely because he wants it that way, or is it your preference?

Edit: clarity



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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 12:48:33 PM   
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If a sub has her fingers up your ass, YOU ARE HER BITCH.
bitch-boi...nomatter how you want to deny it.

I don't see it that way. I don't see any particular act as always being Dominant or submissive. A "reach-around" could either be done regardless of whether He wanted it or not = Dominating OR it could be done to make Him feel good = servicing Him in just another way to increase His pleasure. I would never do that if I didn't know already that He liked it.

edited to add: It just doesn't make sense to "label" actions as either/or.

~sweetsub~

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 12:56:35 PM   
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If a sub has her fingers up your ass, YOU ARE HER BITCH.
bitch-boi...nomatter how you want to deny it.

This statement makes Me think that you might be a little unaware of how things actually work.  Including topics such as power and pleasure.

Why would a Dominant deny themselves a particular pleasure?  Why eliminate any erogenous zone because of some supposed 'submissive' area?  Isn't that the point of being sexually serviced to begin with?  To enjoy it?

I suppose next we'll discuss how any enjoyment of anal play makes a female Dominant really submissive underneath as well? 


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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 12:59:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		RS, when you say you can play who's the dominant, do you mean in "normal" situations also? In my world, not everyone is kinky. There are leaders and followers, and those that fall elsewhere on the continuum, but that doesn't make them pervs.

I love rough sex. Don't pull my hair though, and do NOT pinch my nipples, pinching is a NO. Biting is awesome, grabbing is fine. Bruises great, but NO slapping, esp in the face, hit my face and learn the meaning of 911.

That sounded reeeel subly, right? Yepper.

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RE: -=Ass-rape vs a reach around, sex & service vs domi... - 9/7/2010 1:07:43 PM   
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If a sub has her fingers up your ass, YOU ARE HER BITCH.
bitch-boi...nomatter how you want to deny it.


Oh, I don't know... If I were into that kind of thing I'd strap her hand onto my ass, strap the other one behind her back, restrict her legs to geisha steps and then pull her around by my asshole.

If I were into that kind of thing.

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