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Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 2:17:30 PM   
Needapersonalpet


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I would like to hear, specifically, from the point of view of submissive girls, what stands out to them in emails and profiles that makes them want to communicate with a male dominant.

My goal when I contact someone for the first time is to tell them a bit about who I am and why I am interested in them and more importantly to show that I view them as a person first and foremost. I have noticed a tendency to not show such respect to submissives on this site and that bothers me. However, I have also noticed that emails that emphasize that I am interested in girls who respect themselves and who expect to be treated with respect and courtesy (at least at first!) do not get much of a response. 
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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 2:20:39 PM   
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If you sent me a message like the one you say you do, I am quite sure I would respond. I tend to have a more positive reaction to those that talk to me with respect than the usual "On us kneez nao bitch!" messages.

Eventually, someone will see your message, respond, and things will take off from there! Good luck.

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 2:32:11 PM   
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sounds like the right sort of approach, but you need to say this in your profile too. Although I see it's ready for an update, all it does at the moment is state in very basic terms what you want, without any indication as to why she should consider you. Your email might be good, but your profile may well put people off...

Apart from that - please try hard not to refer to these women as 'girls'. It can come across as patronising and a bit 'wannabe'...

Good luck!

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 2:56:37 PM   
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why not put up the last two messages you sent for us all to comment on here

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 3:05:37 PM   
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When I had an active profile and was looking, I knew within the first three seconds of reading an email whether or not that guy had a shot.
The message had to read how he spoke. Hard to explain what I mean.
I had to be able to hear his voice in my head saying the words I was reading.
If it sounded too formal or anything like a form letter then I immediately disregarded it.
It's a weird filtering criteria ( I know that )and 99.9% of the letters I received failed because of that.

But...for the OP, going the nice polite route is definitely much better than the pompous, rude road.
You'll eventually connect with someone.

edited to fix spelling

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 3:12:06 PM   
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Also mention if you want something long term or if you can only offer something short term, if your poly or monogamous, I rarely reply to profiles or messages that dont specify these things. Also make sure your profile and message matches in what you search for, If your monogamous in your profile but mention wanting poly in your message huge red flag.


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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 3:21:55 PM   
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I'm not a sub but your profile said to me "I live life fast.  I don't have time for a real profile now.  I'll get back to you."

Lotsa women complain that their SO does not have sufficient time for them now.  I can imagine your approach making a lot of them think that you won't give them the time they need.


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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 4:37:02 PM   
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What would make me respond to a Dominant, if I were looking, is a sense of him as a person--a real person. Do not write about bondage, S/M, etc. on your first email. It makes it seems as if you are into BDSM for kinky sex only, not for a relationship. (However, there is nothing wrong with putting those interests in your profile since she will make the choice of whether to view it). Make sure to include comments to indicate that you read and respected her profile and/or initial email.

Basically, approach her first as a person, THEN as a Dom. I could not submit to someone with whom I could not also be friends.


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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 4:48:50 PM   
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Now I get it. Aileen has voices in her head.

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 5:29:16 PM   
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Yup. That I do.

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 5:49:10 PM   
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i like to hear from people who act like real human beings. i don't have a list of things i want to hear. i do have a list of first contacts lines that turn me off:

1. one-line emails like "hi there", or obvious "form emails"
2. cock shots
3. extremely graphic or sexual emails
4. rude emails. When contacting me, please bear in mind that i'm NOT Your submissive yet.
5. requests to webcam when we've barely spoken
6. requests for my yahoo address when we've barely spoken
7. requests for my personal email address when we've barely spoken
8. requests for my phone number when we've barely spoken
9. requests for pictures when we've barely spoken
10. requests to mastrubate when we've barely spoken
11. requests for me to perform a task for You when we've barely spoken
12. requests for money, or to do anything that involves spending money, such as buying a toy.
13. anything that sounds insincere, or resembles a pick-up line in a bar

i don't mean to sound picky, but i have grown cynical from receiving so many emails that violate the rules listed above. To me, it's a matter of common sense. Speak to submissives on collarme the same way You would if You were meeting the person in real life. Be confident, but respectful. Humor is a plus. So is reading a sub's profile before contacting them. Tell them WHY You're interested in talking to them. Show them that You've taken the trouble to find out something about them before contacting them. Many, many people don't do this.

i'm not a Dom. i have no idea how hard it is to find quality subs on this site. From my perspective, a lot of the men who contact me seem to be looking for wanker fodder. Unfortunately, that makes me wary of talking to new people. It's not necessarily anything to do with YOU, personally. Furthermore, a lot of girls get hundreds of emails a day, and just can't respond to them all. Find a way to distinguish Yourself, and be persistent, without looking like a stalker. Good luck!

pam

P.S.- there is nothing wrong with asking for yahoo, webcam, pictures, etc. Just don't do it on the first or second email.

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 6:30:50 PM   
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Out of pure curiosity, if anyone besides submissive females responded to Your post, would You consider that impolite?

pam

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 7:38:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gungadin09

Out of pure curiosity, if anyone besides submissive females responded to Your post, would You consider that impolite?

pam

hahahahahaha There's a thread that question reminds me of. lmao

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 8:33:54 PM   
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In a first email I like some substance. I like information about themselves, why they decided to write me, what they liked about my profile, what they disliked, things from their experience that they think are relevant.

But far more than details, I like directness. If someone doesn't say the equivalent of "I wrote you because I'm interested in exploring whether you'd be a good slave for me" I usually don't respond. The indirect, "your profile made me laugh" or "that setence made me think" or any beating-around-the-bush that doesn't say "I am interested in you--potentially" goes in the trash bin. I'm not interested in someone who's just looking for correspondents or who hasn't the balls to state to my face that he's interested in me. That comes too close to game playing for my tastes.

I also pay close attention to how they write, much more to that than what they say, actually. Unlike Aileen, I'm not looking for anything as specific as a conversational style, formal is fine with me; but like her, I can tell within the first few sentences whether they've "got it" or not.

I read the profile before I open the mail. As long as they don't have anything in the former that makes me feel negative (for instance, incessant complainers really grate on me) or feel other unpleasant emotions, I will open the mail. That means I don't open a lot of emails, and usually when I do, they are a let down (they're usually those awful one or two word fly-by things). It's too bad that so many men with decent profiles resort to that losing style of mail--it makes me think they really don't want to meet anybody. I think to myself, "you had me hooked with the profile, buddy. All you needed was a good, personal followup" as I shake my head and delete the mail unanswered.

As for what stands out, again that is hard to quantify. It isn't any particular set of facts or personal information. It's partially in how well they communicate, convey their personality and core ideas via this medium and the few tools we're given in it and also whether I find that personality and those ideas attractive. I personally look for fire, for someone who has the potential to frighten and greatly challenge me, not safety or reassurance, but I've always been something of an adventuress. Not all submissives look for that, probably the majority don't. A lot of dorks confuse challenging someone with engendering hostility in them--I advise you to try not to make that tactical error.

For me to write a dominant and tell him I'm interested in him, requires a very unusual profile. It needs not only to be very intelligent, intriging, a good match for my needs, and so on but also open and inviting. If the individual is already involved or states he's not looking or seems closed off in some other way, I would never write and bother them, however much I held them in esteem. To me, it's a act of respect to leave a person alone who asks to be left alone. I've experienced the burden of being the object of others' aggressive regard when I was in no position to reciprocate or respond to that regard, and I really didn't like it.

Hope this helps!

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 9:34:53 PM   
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Thank you for all of the responses. They are incredibly thoughtful and many make wonderful points. I will respond to some of the questions posed a little bit later on. I have been swamped with work and other responsibilities the last few hours. 

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 9:38:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: myotherself



Apart from that - please try hard not to refer to these women as 'girls'. It can come across as patronising and a bit 'wannabe'...

Good luck!



i don't mind being called girl....*grins*

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 10:01:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gungadin09

i like to hear from people who act like real human beings. i don't have a list of things i want to hear. i do have a list of first contacts lines that turn me off:

1. one-line emails like "hi there", or obvious "form emails"
2. cock shots
3. extremely graphic or sexual emails
4. rude emails. When contacting me, please bear in mind that i'm NOT Your submissive yet.
5. requests to webcam when we've barely spoken
6. requests for my yahoo address when we've barely spoken
7. requests for my personal email address when we've barely spoken
8. requests for my phone number when we've barely spoken
9. requests for pictures when we've barely spoken
10. requests to mastrubate when we've barely spoken
11. requests for me to perform a task for You when we've barely spoken
12. requests for money, or to do anything that involves spending money, such as buying a toy.
13. anything that sounds insincere, or resembles a pick-up line in a bar

i don't mean to sound picky, but i have grown cynical from receiving so many emails that violate the rules listed above. To me, it's a matter of common sense. Speak to submissives on collarme the same way You would if You were meeting the person in real life. Be confident, but respectful. Humor is a plus. So is reading a sub's profile before contacting them. Tell them WHY You're interested in talking to them. Show them that You've taken the trouble to find out something about them before contacting them. Many, many people don't do this.

i'm not a Dom. i have no idea how hard it is to find quality subs on this site. From my perspective, a lot of the men who contact me seem to be looking for wanker fodder. Unfortunately, that makes me wary of talking to new people. It's not necessarily anything to do with YOU, personally. Furthermore, a lot of girls get hundreds of emails a day, and just can't respond to them all. Find a way to distinguish Yourself, and be persistent, without looking like a stalker. Good luck!

pam

P.S.- there is nothing wrong with asking for yahoo, webcam, pictures, etc. Just don't do it on the first or second email.


What she said. Especially when they just say Hi. And worse than that is when they say, How is the girl today? I cannot stand third person speak.

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 10:19:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
And worse than that is when they say, How is the girl today? I cannot stand third person speak.

I agree.

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/10/2010 11:08:49 PM   
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What gets my attention is when a man took the time to read my profile and my interests, and then mentions them in the email. It shows he took an interest in what I had to say and hopefully thought about what we might have in common

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RE: Contacting Submissives on Collarme - 9/11/2010 2:22:07 AM   
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As many others have already said, I am a person before I am a sub. Messages which address me as a sub first are deleted and messages which demand instant submission are deleted.

The messages I reply to are the ones which are literate, tell me a little bit about themselves and show that they have actually read my profile and are interested in me as a person, not just as a "stereotypical sub" (if such a thing exists!) It helps if their profile has some information in it to tell me what kind of a person they consider themselves to be, but I have occasionally answered a particularly interesting message even if there is no information in the profile.

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