RE: Are women as shallow as men? (Full Version)

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Are women as shallow as men?


Yes
  74% (80)
No
  25% (28)


Total Votes : 108
(last vote on : 4/29/2006 6:40:28 PM)
(Poll ended: 4/30/2006 12:00:00 AM)


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summerpls -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 6:08:50 AM)

oops ... sorry ... meant to say generic (it's too damned early in the morning to be responding to this!)



LaTigresse -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 6:13:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

At the top of each post is a bar with a quote button. Quotes are preceded by a text in square brackets and followed by the word 'quote' and perhaps a slash also in square brackets. Simply first use the edit button, look for the square bracket that is deficient. Close or discard the editable window. Use the quote button on any text, copy the required square brackets and paste those in the post you want to edit.
  testing one two testing....... all of that and no coffee!!!



ShiftedJewel -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 6:13:45 AM)

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Obviously I do NOT have the quotation part figured out yet!!!!!!!!


Or you can highlight the part you want to quote, copy it and hit reply. In the reply box there is a little bubble icon next to the spell check, you click on it, then the codes will pop up and you simply paste what you copied between them.



LaTigresse -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 6:15:06 AM)

is it shallow to do the happy dance over finally getting the quote thingy right?



JohnWarren -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 6:25:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mastermlz

Don't give me a knee jerk reaction. Think about this one.


Some people are shallow; some people are not.



cuddleheart50 -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 6:27:21 AM)

yep, women are just as shallow.



GddssBella -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 6:28:24 AM)

G'morning all:


quote:

ORIGINAL: lordbaltizar

I  think woman in general  are shallow since most have depended  on men  for there well being  and being provided  for,from the very start of existance and therefore did not require to do otherwise,that being said i do not believe woman have  the same capacity as men in there mind sets to change since it is inherent in there makeup of being the weaker species,this does not mean i believe woman dont have the capacity to change ,what i am saying is they dont want to.~l.b.~


I don't know which will provide the greater deterrent towards any future potenial female partners this particularly "special" individual may encounter. His atrocious spelling, piss poor grammar or his neanderthal views. Whichever prevails, it'll be a sure fire method of birth control so that the gene pool is quite safe from his contamination. Keep up the good work. I'm rooting for you! [sm=applause.gif]

*returns the discussion back to it's normally scheduled program* Shallowness is irrespective of gender, sexual orientation, cultural inclinations, age, or whatever yardstick you wish to rule it by. It's a personality trait, unique to an person. Fortunately, not one I encounter among my friends. My co-workers are another matter altogether...


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...


[:D]


Bella



darq -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 6:35:00 AM)

I think I can be shallow at times ... Not so much towards a certain set of looks or race or anything but more towards a certain aura ... I dont know .. Hard to explain.

Men who make me feel small, men who pursue me even if I say no the first couple of times they ask, or men who simply take without asking (I'm not reffering to sex or scening by the way ... Its a bit more subtle than that.) are very attractive to me. Men who do not do those things ... Arent.



islandwatermon -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 7:03:53 AM)

I think at times both sexes can be equally shallow but it is impossible to spread a blanket answer to this poll question.

Wikipedia definition:
 
Shallow means not very deep. It can be quite advantageous, e.g. a shallow pool is safe for swimming and a shallow ore is easy to mine.
However, used metaphorically it is a derogative term used to describe people who are perceived to lack intellectual "depth". There is no standard definition of what constitutes "depth" in this sense, but usually an individual is considered deep if they seem to be interesting, original, creative, philosophical or intelligent. By contrast, somebody who appears superficial, naive, materialistic, petty, unimaginative or a conformist is likely to be denounced as being shallow, although simply lacking intelligence is not a criterion on its own.

From the above I believe all humans posses these traits - we all want what is best, safest, fun, loving, caring, etc - but who can separate and state their base needs without sounding shallow? 

My best to all and enjoy this wonderful group to its fullest

Lord Bill

(oops, thats shallow:)



ladychatterley -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 7:12:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lordbaltizar

I  think woman in general  are shallow since most have depended  on men  for there well being  and being provided  for,from the very start of existance and therefore did not require to do otherwise,that being said i do not believe woman have  the same capacity as men in there mind sets to change since it is inherent in there makeup of being the weaker species,this does not mean i believe woman dont have the capacity to change ,what i am saying is they dont want to.~l.b.~

I had voted yes-- I think women (at least I) find chemistry just as important as men do, but I think women tend to be less visual.

However, after reading this post, I wish I could change my vote.  Being the victim of a patriarchal society does not make you shallow.  Men wrote the roles, and then they blame us for those rules?

Additionally, in my opinion, women change 'there (sic) mind sets' far more than men do because women have, historically been dependent on men for 'there (sic) well-being.' 

You can't have it both ways here--yes, historically women have been dependent on men, which means that they were far more likely to change than the men were.  They went from their father's home to their husband's home.  As 'property' they had few rights and had to adapt.

Furthermore, while I don't have kids, and don't plan on having kids (I'm one of those quite successful career women), I think raising kids necessitates huge changes in mindset.  Raising a baby is very different from a two-year old, which is very different from a teenager. 

Sure there are historical differences in the roles of women and men, but that isn't linked to depth. 



Level -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 7:24:46 AM)

Anyone thinking the other sex is more shallow, or stupid, or couragous, by belief, must see some degree of superiority in one sex over the other. Is that right?
 
Level



RiotGirl -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 8:57:45 AM)

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spell check


There's a spell check??  (grumbles) not like it'd help me much



feastie -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 9:01:30 AM)

Perfectly said.



RiotGirl -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 9:01:45 AM)

quote:


Some people are shallow; some people are not.


i completely agree with this.  Its not a male/female thing. 



kittensmailbox -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 9:05:08 AM)

GO ladychatterley!!!

i myself, do not depend on men for anything... and dont say sex, because i much rather have my toy and get it right the first time...  i am BI and rather be with a female over a male lover anytime...  Do not get me wrong, men are nice and i do like them and it is a man's world...  I just dont "need" them, like they want us to anymore...



truesub4u -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 9:47:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

Bullshit, feastie. Women are just as often to be as shallow as men, they just aren't as forth coming about it.


Flip that coin Mr Discipline.... men are less forth coming than most women in about everything.... including being shallow.



Tikkiee -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 9:52:14 AM)

Are women as shallow as men?
 
Nicely worded trick question [:)] If I say yes, then I am agreeing that all men are shallow, and that women are just the same. If I say no, then it can be seen as me saying that women are less judgemental than men. 
Now, if you had asked " Who is more shallow; men or women" ; the question takes on a different perspective. In that instance, I would say that from my personal experience, I have found women to be more shallow than men ( and this is based solely on my own personal experiences, it is not a sweeping generalization ). From those whom I know personally, and have come into contact with casually; most of the women look for men who are physically attractive, muscular, tall, physically fit, and finacially stable. Whereas the men look for intelligence, humor, able to communicate effectively; with looks and body proportions coming up behind the rest.
( Again, I want to stress that this observation comes only from my own encounters with others. It is in no way meant to be a sweeping generalization )
 
Personally, for myself, yes, I like for a man to look good; physically. But that is not what will hold my attention. I enjoy good conversations that center around a variety of subjects; someone who I am talking with needs to be able to keep up [:)] If they can't hold my attention with conversation then they will not be holding on to me for long.



BitaTruble -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 9:57:03 AM)

OK, my knee jerk reaction to the poll question was that it was separatist and negative.

After giving it careful consideration I have changed my mind. I've come to the conclusion that it's separatist, negative, has no social value and serves no purpose other than to widen the gulf between the sexes which is quite wide enough. I see no positives to be gained from such a poll and many negatives and opportunities for flame wars to begin. I think it's belittling to both men and women and assumes superficiality of the species. I don't believe woman are as shallow as men because I don't believe that men are shallow. Each of us is unique and bring ourselves to any relationship with something new and different which no one else has and which can be of value to one or many others.

See what happens when you tell me to think before I type? lol

Celeste



TexasMaam -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 9:57:59 AM)

The complex or loaded question
"Do you still beat your wife"
A complex question is one that appears simple, but actually asks several questions.  For example, the familiar "Do you still beat your wife?" can be broken down into two questions:
"Have you ever beaten your wife?"
"Do you still beat your wife?"
By asking this complex question, the asker assumes that the answer to the first question is yes.  This type of question is often called a loaded question, because any answer makes the person being questioned looked guilty.  More subtle forms of complex questions are used to catch people off guard.  For example, Douglass Rushkoff (page 53) reports that sails clerks at GAP stores have been trained to ask customers "How may I help you?" instead of "Can I help you?"  Asking "How may I help you?" assumes that the customer needs help, which may not be true.
 
 
Are women shallow?
Are men shallow?
Are all women as shallow as all men are shallow?
Are some women as shallow as some men?
Are some women as shallow as most men?
Are most men as shallow as some women?
 
[>:]
 
Next post, please?
 
TexasMaam



gooddogbenji -> RE: Are women as shallow as men? (4/23/2006 10:06:01 AM)

To be honest, I don't care whether they are or not.  As long as they find a reason to sleep with me, I'm happy.

Yours,


benji



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