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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/12/2010 4:42:22 PM   
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Firm, as per usual most of what you posted as "Evidence" is nothing of the kind, just as it wasn`t when you posted about "Victor mosques"  I replied to a comment that specifically claimed Muslims killed anyone who didnt convert, made by Steponme. Boi was stupid enough to try and use an attack by terrorists to prove me wrong. Her own link even stated as much " Sunni militants" and said they had links with Al Qaida.

"Another thing to remember is the Muslim relegion considers everyone who is not a member, an infidel...and you know what they do to infidel's if they don't convert? Guess...they do it everyday even to their own kind. They kill them...women, men children it makes no difference to them. It is their way or be dead."

Getting back to your "proof" much of it is nothing of the sort. The lebanese attacks were in response to the massacre at a refugee camp. The Sudanese violence is mostly ethnic, with Arab Muslims murdering blacks, despite the religion. China....ffs how long have the Chinese been Muslim. Indian Hindus odd sort of Muslims there huh. .... so on and so forth.

I believe what I do, much to your annoyance, as I can actually read what it says in YOUR posts, you seem incapable of reading both mine, and even your own..... sheesh.

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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/12/2010 4:46:26 PM   
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Well according to the article I posted "Catholic officials estimate that more than 1 million Christians have fled Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Many went to Syria, which in recent days has seen a greater number of arriving Iraqis than usual."

But I am sure they were fleeing back then because someone told them they might be killed in 7 or 8 years


Kind of destroys your claims of Bush making things safer in Iraq huh.  indeed. I have replied to Firm explaining how you are both mixing up Muslims and terrorist attacks. It will probably whoosh straight over your head, but at least I tried.

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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/12/2010 5:07:58 PM   
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Well according to the article I posted "Catholic officials estimate that more than 1 million Christians have fled Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Many went to Syria, which in recent days has seen a greater number of arriving Iraqis than usual."

But I am sure they were fleeing back then because someone told them they might be killed in 7 or 8 years


Kind of destroys your claims of Bush making things safer in Iraq huh.  indeed. I have replied to Firm explaining how you are both mixing up Muslims and terrorist attacks. It will probably whoosh straight over your head, but at least I tried.


Care to provide some links where I said Bush was making things safer. While I am waiting for that, I should point out that you said "A claim was made Christians were being killed for being Christians in Muslim countries. I have shown thats not the case."

And no you didn't show that it wasn't the case, in fact I just proved it was. The only thing you are trying to do at this point is try to twist your way out of admitting you were wrong.


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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/12/2010 5:14:16 PM   
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Well according to the article I posted "Catholic officials estimate that more than 1 million Christians have fled Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Many went to Syria, which in recent days has seen a greater number of arriving Iraqis than usual."

But I am sure they were fleeing back then because someone told them they might be killed in 7 or 8 years


Kind of destroys your claims of Bush making things safer in Iraq huh.  indeed. I have replied to Firm explaining how you are both mixing up Muslims and terrorist attacks. It will probably whoosh straight over your head, but at least I tried.


Care to provide some links where I said Bush was making things safer. While I am waiting for that, I should point out that you said "A claim was made Christians were being killed for being Christians in Muslim countries. I have shown thats not the case."

And no you didn't show that it wasn't the case, in fact I just proved it was. The only thing you are trying to do at this point is try to twist your way out of admitting you were wrong.



Youre right, I did say that. It wasnt what Steponme said exactly. It was his point I was arguing against though, on which he is wrong.

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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/12/2010 5:24:37 PM   
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I wasn't talking about stepon, but it's nice to see you are willing to admit he was wrong.  Now where were those links where I said Bush was doing us a favor over in Iraq?

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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/12/2010 5:25:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Firm, as per usual most of what you posted as "Evidence" is nothing of the kind, just as it wasn`t when you posted about "Victor mosques" 

You'll have to be more specific, rather than just make a claim of "success".  I don't remember anything of mine that you successfully "debunked".


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I replied to a comment that specifically claimed Muslims killed anyone who didnt convert, made by Steponme. Boi was stupid enough to try and use an attack by terrorists to prove me wrong. Her own link even stated as much " Sunni militants" and said they had links with Al Qaida.

"Another thing to remember is the Muslim relegion considers everyone who is not a member, an infidel...and you know what they do to infidel's if they don't convert? Guess...they do it everyday even to their own kind. They kill them...women, men children it makes no difference to them. It is their way or be dead."

Perhaps that is where it started, but that is certainly not where you ended your claims.


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Getting back to your "proof" much of it is nothing of the sort. The lebanese attacks were in response to the massacre at a refugee camp. The Sudanese violence is mostly ethnic, with Arab Muslims murdering blacks, despite the religion. China....ffs how long have the Chinese been Muslim. Indian Hindus odd sort of Muslims there huh. .... so on and so forth.

It just so happens that all that violence I quoted in my post is "due to other reasons".  It just so happens, by sheer coincidence that it's the Christians being killed, in every instance.

Sheer coincidence.?!?!

I'm not claiming that other reasons may not contribute, but "one time is chance.  Twice is coincidence.  Three times and its enemy action".

I find it incredible that you find the fact that all the incidences listed in the article have Christians as the ones murdered and oppressed is simply a  "coincidence".


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I believe what I do, much to your annoyance, as I can actually read what it says in YOUR posts, you seem incapable of reading both mine, and even your own..... sheesh.


Sheesh yourself, big guy.

Firm

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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/12/2010 5:32:39 PM   
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Firm..... read what I have said in relation to the original claim by steponme. You and Boi seem hellbent in going off track to try and make your case, while its amusing, it isnt debating. Still it is nice to know you can add two and two and make five.

Tell me what Hindus in India or the Chinese, have to do with Muslims killing Christians, because your logic as always, is astounding.

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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/12/2010 5:40:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Firm..... read what I have said in relation to the original claim by steponme. You and Boi seem hellbent in going off track to try and make your case, while its amusing, it isnt debating. Still it is nice to know you can add two and two and make five.

Tell me what Hindus in India or the Chinese, have to do with Muslims killing Christians, because your logic as always, is astounding.

The majority of what I quoted was about Muslim countries, or in Muslim controlled areas.

You've already admitted to boi that you did indeed change the frame of the debate, so why the backtracking now?

At least I don't add two and two and get two, like you seem to be doing, hiding from the plain truth of the facts.

Firm


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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/13/2010 4:24:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Firm..... read what I have said in relation to the original claim by steponme. You and Boi seem hellbent in going off track to try and make your case, while its amusing, it isnt debating. Still it is nice to know you can add two and two and make five.

Tell me what Hindus in India or the Chinese, have to do with Muslims killing Christians, because your logic as always, is astounding.

The majority of what I quoted was about Muslim countries, or in Muslim controlled areas.

You've already admitted to boi that you did indeed change the frame of the debate, so why the backtracking now?

At least I don't add two and two and get two, like you seem to be doing, hiding from the plain truth of the facts.

Firm



The only thing I have admitted is not quoting someone properly. The majority of what you quoted had nothing to do with my original comment.

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RE: This is what made me pro-mosque - 11/13/2010 11:43:33 AM   
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I hate to be on the same side as Ps, but I also don't remember him ever admitting he was wrong about this. Even after it was proved

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So there is nothing wrong with being arrested, held in jail, and being sentanced to death, since the excecution was not carried out.

Got it Boi!!!!



Who said that brains ? certainly not me. A claim was made Christians were being killed for being Christians in Muslim countries. I have shown thats not the case. Boi then claimed people had been killed. I then explained the difference in terms simple enough for her, and now you, to understand. Steponme made an absurd claim regards Muslims killing everyone who didnt convert. It wasnt true when he made it and isnt true now.

You and boi are just miffed and cant resist being a couple of asshats, because thats how both of you debate. Neither of you actually answers a point with little more than a wild dig or changing tack. Either that or telling me I`m English, which is fine by me but I already knew.


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