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RE: How To Never Ever Get Laid Again - 9/15/2010 12:11:49 PM   
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I got beat up by my girl friend once... - 9/15/2010 12:12:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

The titles running across the screen keep chaging...

"How to never get laid"

"Promoting Domestic Violence AGAINST Women"

What else are we gonna see? The title change has been the most interesting part of this read.

boi



Jen that is 1/2 the fun of rebutting some one like the OP.  What you think of the new subject line??


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RE: I got beat up by my girl friend once... - 9/15/2010 12:14:31 PM   
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I wanna start a record of them so that in the end we find some way to string them all together in a sentence to sum up the result for the OP.

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RE: I got beat up by my girl friend once... - 9/15/2010 12:15:35 PM   
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Another one..."I got beat up by my girlfriend once...."

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RE: I got beat up by my girl friend once... - 9/15/2010 12:16:47 PM   
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So right now it's "How to never get laid again after I got beat by my girlfriend for promoting domestic violence against women."

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RE: I got beat up by my girl friend once... - 9/15/2010 12:18:00 PM   
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RE: I got beat up by my girl friend once... - 9/15/2010 12:18:26 PM   
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"How to lie like a feminist"

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RE: I got beat up by my girl friend once... - 9/15/2010 12:21:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

So right now it's "How to never get laid again after I got beat by my girlfriend for promoting domestic violence against women."



Good thing I drink my coffee black jen, other wise it'd be a bitch to clean up the keyboard after THAT GEM. 



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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 2:30:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
Here's a site that may be of interest to you, OP:

What Men Are Saying About Women


Firm


Sorry, I got distracted by the girl in restraints on the cover. What were we talking about again?

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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 5:14:25 PM   
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I did not say that violence against men or you speaking for violence against men was misogyny. PLEASE do not EVER place your disgusting words anywhere NEAR my mouth.


So please explain, what makes me a misogynist in this debate? What makes you so butthurt when I explain that males are victims to and women are just as guilty?

It seems to me that women such as your self and others in this thread are trying to silence the other side of the story. That’s more sexist than anything regarding this topic.

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Its because your posts are full of hate discrimination and how everything ever in the entire world ever can be blamed on a woman of some kind.


How am I being hateful? How am I blaming women for DV in the whole world? Please elaborate all of this in logical detail. Please give me every minor detail how I am acting this way just for expressing that DV against men should be just as important and acknowledged? It’s been hateful and discriminatory to attempt to silence me or anyone who tells the other side of the story to your own.

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I will tell you this once and only once. When men suffer the damages that most women do, people will look to it more equally.


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Women will 90% of the time be thought of in DV cases because there is on average more damage caused to a female who is a victim of dv. There are broken bones, their are lacerated organs their are damages that kill and prove fatal.


Okay let’s break down this logical fallacy.

Is a woman capable of breaking a nose? yes or no

Is a woman capable of causing a black eye? yes or no

Is a woman capable of knocking out teeth? yes or no

Is a woman capable of kicking someone in the nuts? yes or no

Is a woman capable of using a weapon? yes or no

Not every man is stronger than every woman. Not every woman is weaker than every man. Not every man can beat up every woman.

Let’s take a slim built guy compared to a BBW woman for example.

That aside, do you want to know the lowest of low? There has been cases over the years of women cutting off their partners penis. I have never heard of a case where a man cut off a woman’s breast through DV or mutilated her vagina. I am not saying it hasn’t happened, I just haven’t heard of it in places like America, Canada UK, Australia.

SpiritedRadiance, you and most of the women in this thread bother me because you keep screaming at me; telling me one way or the other that I don’t have the right to believe DV against men should be EQALLY important compared to DV against women. You are making logical fallacies to claim that women should be taken into more consideration over male victims. This is completely sexist. I am not sure if you’re a feminists or not but what sickens me is that feminists and many women jump up and down about wanting equality and equal treatment for women when it’s not in their favour. But then in another stance, they want superior consideration over male victims when it comes to DV. I wonder how this makes many male victims feel? But them feelings are not important to you and many others, right?

No wonder why many men choose not to report it. Not just because of the humiliation but because they feel that people just don’t fucking care. And if they do dare to complain about it in public, the conversation will likely be hijacked with sympathy for female victims. Can you see the bigotry?

If there was a topic that started off about female victims. Let’s say a thread was started that had a topic about female victims. If a male jumped in the thread and starting saying “what about male victims”, in most cases people would find it inappropriate. However, it’s never deemed as inappropriate if it happened the other way around.

Political correctness has a lot to answer for.

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Until you stop diminishing the reality of domestic violence aginst ANYONE no matter what genitalia they have, you are not going to be taken seriously


So please explain how I am diminishing reality of domestic violence?

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There is a LONG history of women fighting for their DV needs


And men have a much long long long way to go yet to catch up in receiving the same amount of support as women do. But of course, this issue is not important to feminists and political correctness. A man is just a worthless whining misogynist if he dares to raise these issues.

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Now if I were you I would get involved on a local or even national effort to provide the same services for guys. Otherwise you are just as bad as any other misogynist all bluster and no balls


Does the typical feminist or woman get involved with pushing governments to make services better for men? Absolutely not, but they will still jump up and down about abuse against women. Then have the audacity to say what you are saying to men when they raise such issues. Only a handful of people have made things how they are for women at this day. It’s clearly evident in this thread how far a man would go if he tried clamouring equal support for men towards the government/society. He would get screamed at by the public from people everywhere with “what about the women” “you misogynist” “you will never get laid”…and all the other low things you can think of.  Not only that, a man would have to be very well off with money as obviously no one is willing to give men’s groups the tax payer’s money to pull it off. That’s what makes it way easier for these women’s groups. They can easily get a billion dollars a year to support their movement. I don’t see men getting such support in the future at my life time.

pogo4pres

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Now to the OP,  dude when  you grow up and attain the age of 52 get back to me


I think you are the one who needs to grow up and snap out of it to realise that there should be equal consideration for men. Consider this; male victims are human beings to. They feel pain and distress to. Instead, you prefer to attempt to shut down any man who raises the other side of the story. You are a smelly disgrace to your own gender because you prefer to suck on the tit of feminazism

Obviously, you have a lot of growing up to. This is how you label a man who tells the other side of the story

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I got beat up by my girl friend once


I can just imagine these types of intimidation tactics being thrown at a woman who was speaking about female DV. There would be outrage.

But it’s only against political correctness when such nonsense get’s thrown at women. *yawn*


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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 5:24:48 PM   
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So please explain, what makes me a misogynist in this debate? What makes you so butthurt when I explain that males are victims to and women are just as guilty?

It seems to me that women such as your self and others in this thread are trying to silence the other side of the story. That’s more sexist than anything regarding this topic.


While I see your point, I think your problem is mostly the comparing of men to women.

Compare:

X number of men are abused by a partner each year, but there are only X number of facilities available to men. We should work as a society to fund shelters for men who need a safe place to escape an abusive partner who is beating/blackmailing/threatening/stalking him.

vs.

"X number of men are abused each year and they can't go to women's shelters due to sexism. This is because feminism is wrong. We should work as a society to fight feminism so that men can go to the (already overcrowded and underfunded) women's shelters too.

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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 5:31:16 PM   
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"Is a woman capable of breaking a nose? yes or no

Is a woman capable of causing a black eye? yes or no

Is a woman capable of knocking out teeth? yes or no

Is a woman capable of kicking someone in the nuts? yes or no

Is a woman capable of using a weapon? yes or no"

You can say the same things about UMs.

Gonna tell us hitting UMs is in bounds? That would make you seem creepy.......

Hey professor......if the "playing field" is all equal and shit.....more or less......why the fuck are there so many more men in prison than women?

Why the fuck is it that most criminals are men?



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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 5:33:35 PM   
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"X number of men are abused each year and they can't go to women's shelters due to sexism. This is because feminism is wrong.


The sole reason why I made this point was because what was said way back here...

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Feminism is an idea--the idea that men and women are both members of the human race and, therefore, deserve equal consideration


When ever feminism is criticised, 9 times out of 10 you will get people saying things what I just quoted.

When it comes to the claim that feminism is about equal treatment and consideration, my point proves that this is totally false.





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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 5:35:14 PM   
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why the fuck are there so many more men in prison than women?


Probably because women generally get lighter punishments in the courts compared to men.

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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 5:47:03 PM   
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Prove it.

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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 5:57:54 PM   
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Dont look to make others do things you yourself arent willing to do. Go out and do something. Educate yourself and others, do it without blaming others (especially 52 % Of the population). Make a change your self cos it does feel good ... its a much better feeling than trying to piss off some female.
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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 5:59:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

When it comes to the claim that feminism is about equal treatment and consideration, my point proves that this is totally false.



Oh yeah, it's sort of funny how people don't want to admit that a movement called feminism is about anything other than advocacy for women.

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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 6:00:44 PM   
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why the fuck are there so many more men in prison than women?


Probably because women generally get lighter punishments in the courts compared to men.



Or because men commit more violent crimes.

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RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist - 9/15/2010 6:12:36 PM   
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Exactly....


Which explains the disparity.

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How To Lie Like A Coward - 9/15/2010 6:31:33 PM   
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I wouldn't bother to respond to the OP (he seems to have no real substance save misogyny. Also, he thinks that I am stupid because I have bad hair) but people seem to be accepting at least some of his ridiculous assertions as fact, and that makes me sad. I happened to pull up the Wikipedia page on domestic violence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence) and, what a surprise, it refutes many of his claims. Also, from what I've looked at, the studies it cites are generally solid and feature good methodology, unlike the articles that the OP links to. Regardless, I encourage you to read the sources and draw your own conclusions.

"Domestic violence...can be broadly defined as a pattern of abusive behaviors by one or both partners in an intimate relationship."

Note: if your girlfriends slaps you once, that isn't an example of domestic violence. If she hits you frequently, in concert with abusive patterns or behaviors, that might be domestic violence. Don't argue semantics about this one, or I'll argue that if a stranger comes into your home (a domestic setting) and hits you, that also counts as "domestic violence."

Also note: I have been hit non-consensually by a significant other. It was very much not okay, but I wouldn't trivialize actual abuse by calling what happened to me domestic violence.

"Women are much more likely to be murdered by an intimate partner. Among the persons killed by an intimate partner, about three quarters are female, and about a quarter are male."

"in a review of the research Michael Kimmel  found that violence is instrumental in maintaining control and that more than 90 percent of "systematic, persistent, and injurious" violence is perpetrated by men."

"The simple tally of violent acts is typically found to be similar in those studies that examine both directions, but some studies show that men's violence may be more serious. Men's violence may do more damage than women's;[37]  women are much more likely to be injured and/or hospitalized, wives are much more likely to be killed by their husbands than the reverse (59%-41% Dept of Justice study)"

"the National Institute of Justice  states that the studies that find that women abuse men equally or even more than men abuse women are based on data compiled through the Conflict Tactics Scale, a survey tool developed in the 1970s and which may not be appropriate for intimate partner violence research because it does not measure control, coercion, or the motives for conflict tactics; it also leaves out sexual assault and violence by ex-spouses or partners and does not determine who initiated the violence. Furthermore, the NIJ contends that national surveys supported by NIJ, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Bureau of Justice Statistics  that examine more serious assaults do not support the conclusion of similar rates of male and female spousal assaults. These surveys are conducted within a safety or crime context and clearly find more partner abuse by men against women."

Obviously, I'm cherry-picking. Both men and women are victims of domestic violence, which may be perpetrated by either gender. And both deserve resources to deal with that violence. However, women find themselves in dangerous abusive relationships far more often than men do - and so, yes, there are more resources devoted to helping them.

One final word: I think most men are great. Some of the people I love and respect most in this world are men. But this doesn't change the fact that, as a rule, they have greater privileges than otherwise equal women.

I am a feminist. 

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