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BoiJen -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 9:04:27 AM)

Six pages of it. God damn.

Why is it that the assholes get all the masturbatory material they want and the good guys (like Otter and peon and....) end up with less than this? Seriously...when is good behavior gonna be rewarded?

boi



tazzygirl -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 9:05:56 AM)

Because, in the end, women like the idea of changing the "bad boys"! My ex was a bad boy. I learned how to spot em... and how to shut them down quickly.



BoiJen -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 9:11:31 AM)

I don't understand you masochistic women.

I've actually had this discussion with MsKitty and I still feel stupid about it. What is it about feeling safe that women just detest so much that they need to find an asshole?

I mean, I get that intermittent reward is the best way to condition someone into a certain behavior but damn...to go from being treated like shit to being treated like shit when decent folks are out there looking to make women happy...I just don't get it. I seriously don't understand. I try to understand but I still feel like I'm missing some component in the equation cuz I can't make the intellectual or emotional jump to being able to understand this mess.

Because the reality is that guys like this wouldn't exist if it weren't for these types of tactics actually working at some point in gaining women's attentions.

Ugh...

Women.

boi



tazzygirl -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 9:13:50 AM)

lol



mnottertail -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 9:15:59 AM)

It never ceases to amaze me, (there is another thread going on another forum with some of the same attributes) that these guys are amazed that they ain't just fuckin' slathered in pussy.....how can they not know?  how? 



LadyPact -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 9:25:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Six pages of it. God damn.

Why is it that the assholes get all the masturbatory material they want and the good guys (like Otter and peon and....) end up with less than this? Seriously...when is good behavior gonna be rewarded?

boi


Do you really think Otters and peon are wanting for attention?  Ha!  The only thing that keeps Otters safe is the marriage to the Domme of dreams.  If you don't think peon gets enough material, I'll point you to just one of I don't know how many threads that have taken good care of him.



Lucylastic -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 9:47:31 AM)

I agree with Lady Pact..Im not looking for a partner at all, however I think the world of people like Peon and Otters and many others because they are fun friendly, interesting, highly enjoyable people.
This muppet, is the loud squeaky wheel that needs a serious adjustment, but one that Im just not interested in caring about in anyway.
Too many people think they can chage someone like that ... unfortunately if its not an internal fix, I just see tears and anger



thishereboi -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 10:47:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It never ceases to amaze me, (there is another thread going on another forum with some of the same attributes) that these guys are amazed that they ain't just fuckin' slathered in pussy.....how can they not know?  how? 


Maybe they do know it, but figure this way at least they are still interacting with live females, even if it is just online. They seem to feed on that hate they get back, but turn around and beg for more.



LadyPact -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 11:27:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It never ceases to amaze me, (there is another thread going on another forum with some of the same attributes) that these guys are amazed that they ain't just fuckin' slathered in pussy.....how can they not know?  how? 

Any chance you want to tag the other thread with the above comment?  I do have to wonder how some folks just don't get it.



Vendaval -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 3:36:52 PM)

Yup, serious "mommy issues". [:D]



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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Too many people think they can chage someone like that ... unfortunately if its not an internal fix, I just see tears and anger




peacefulplace -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 3:40:41 PM)

Wow! This thread is still going strong! After reading the last few posts, I'm off to check his profile...

But first, I'd just like to know if I'm the only one that noticed the author of one of his earliest links (I know, he's posted about 100 at this point), the one entitled "A Good Gift for Men: Reform of the VAWA." If you didn't catch that one, it's by Phyllis Schlafly. What a blast from the past! Shouldn't she have ridden into the sunset with the Moral Majority, et al?

Sorry. Just can't take links that have an obvious ideological agenda behind them seriously. And Schlafly is living proof that just because you are a woman doesn't mean you like women.



naughtynick81 -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 4:17:51 PM)

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If you seriously can not debate the subject without the name calling, you may want to look at why you feel the need to resort to that tactic.  It makes your position look weak.


Please explain in detail how it makes a position look weak if a person uses the word “moron” ? I guess it’s not much different when people call me a hater or misogynist. And use the “you can’t get laid” tactic, I am using this as masturbatory material, mommy issues, or the most chauvinistic response of all…”but figure this way at least they are still interacting with live females”.

To most of these you have played along with it in this thread. These same old tactics are used just about every time when a man disagrees with feminists/women. Because a man is not allowed to disagree, that’s how chauvinistic the pro-female/feminist stance truly is. Having a masculinist point of view opposing to a feminist/pro-woman point of view is simply forbidden or taboo in a political correct stance. Freedom of speech is only acceptable going in one direction.

Nearly all what many of the women have displayed in this thread rings to the same tune of “what about the menz”

Feminists/women jump up and down demanding action to be taken towards discrimination against women. Yet when the truth of discrimination against men comes out from under the rug, they attempt to shame you or use sarcasm, or use some cockeyed excuse for it.

When it comes to feminism, women can accuse men of just about anything and will be listened to and still accepted socially regardless how ridiculous the claim is. But if men accuse women being in the wrong, they are likely to get laughed at. Feminism would have to be one of the biggest polluters on the planet from a personal aspect, the biggest wasters and consumers of useless junk. Yet nothing gets done about that, people just buy more and more rubbish to contribute to the dying of humanity.

Feminism needs to stop portraying the minority of women who are victims as representative of most or all women and stop portraying the minority of men who are evil or privileged as representative of most or all men.

There are many forms of hate in the world. Racism, sexism, religious hate etc etc etc. Most probably, feminists create at least 70 percent of all hate in the western world. More hate comes from the feminist movement than any other form of hate that’s existing in the western world.

It’s so ironic coming from people who represent a movement that’s supposed to be against sexism and discrimination. 



JstAnotherSub -> RE: I am a sub and I would beat the OP if I had to listen to him... (9/16/2010 4:26:44 PM)

geez dude, I cant even read any more....get help.

(dude being the OP)



Elisabella -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 4:46:18 PM)

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Please explain in detail how it makes a position look weak if a person uses the word “moron” ? I guess it’s not much different when people call me a hater or misogynist. And use the “you can’t get laid” tactic, I am using this as masturbatory material, mommy issues, or the most chauvinistic response of all…”but figure this way at least they are still interacting with live females”.

To most of these you have played along with it in this thread. These same old tactics are used just about every time when a man disagrees with feminists/women. Because a man is not allowed to disagree, that’s how chauvinistic the pro-female/feminist stance truly is. Having a masculinist point of view opposing to a feminist/pro-woman point of view is simply forbidden or taboo in a political correct stance. Freedom of speech is only acceptable going in one direction.


Honey don't even worry abut it. Feminists are pro at derailing tactics, they wrote the manual.

No. Seriously. They wrote the fucking manual.
http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/resources/mirror-derailing-for-dummies/

Anyway according to internet logic the more you actually care about an issue the more people try to troll you, so I guess that's why you ended up with 6 pages of people calling you names, questioning your sexual ability, bringing your mother into it, etc.

I don't normally think one person should speak up when their "group" is acting like rabid retards, but this is fucking embarrassing. So as a woman, I apologize for the way my gender can act so stupidly indoctrinated sometimes.

And just to clarify I think most of your posts are completely misguided, and actually your posts ARE exactly saying "what about teh menz" and it's really not my fault you're putting rhetoric over etymology and actually believing feminism is just a weird way of pronouncing humanism.

But anyway I do like threads like this because every time I start to re-evaluate feminism as "women's rights" rather than "the doctrine of crazy bitches" something like this happens and I realize I'm quite happy just doing my own thing without it.



LadyPact -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 5:34:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81
Please explain in detail how it makes a position look weak if a person uses the word “moron” ?

Not much detail to it.  If your points of debate are strong enough on their own, why should you have to resort to attempting to malign a responder's intelligence?  I can assure you that My IQ is over seventy (50-69 actually being the range for which the term "moron" is correct) and, in fact, I did state publicly on this thread that I am of average intelligence.  So, you either a) lied or b) chose to attack Me personally.  Neither are strong debate tactics and are often used when someone of an opposite opinion can not counter the position of the other person.


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To most of these you have played along with it in this thread.

No.  Literally, the title of this thread has changed on the scroll a number of times.  I did think it was amusing under the title that brought Me to it in the first place.  When I saw it was your original, yes, that made it funnier.  Your posting history on the subject has proceeded this thread and yes, people do form opinions.
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  At this point, I cut all of your opinions about feminism.

I made My remarks regarding feminism earlier in the thread and have not discussed that portion of the topic since.  The fact that you want to continue your manifestos about your hatred of feminism doesn't have a thing to do with My participation on this thread.  My contributions have been centered on the domestic violence issue, which you brought into the thread. 

I do not debate feminism on this site.  Not on this thread and not on prior threads on the subject.  Very simply, they are very ugly threads and have been known to be fueled by some very less than pleasant motivations.  I skip the topic for that reason.

The domestic violence issue, however, I do not skip, as I hope to assist in spreading any knowledge that I may have to contribute.



naughtynick81 -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 5:48:35 PM)

Hi Elisabella

Regarding the derailing tactics manual. Here is the anti-male shaming tactics catalogue lol

http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/

I am sorry that you think my post are misguided and rhetorical. I am not sure if you know what I mean by the phrase "what about teh menz". When it's expressed in this form, its using sarcasm in the means of the male issue is not important or it shouldn't be taken into consideration. Feminists use this phrase all the time when male issues are raised in their presence. I find it hilariously ironic coming from a person who represents a group that's supposed to be against sexism and discrimination.

I am not sure what you exactly meant here.

actually believing feminism is just a weird way of pronouncing humanism.

But what I have thought for a long time, if feminists were truly about gender equality for all, why not call themselves huminists? It's obvious that the movement is terribly one-sided even in the extremes of putting men down who raise issues that affect men. From seeing it at this point of view, it veers towards being a supremacy movement.





Elisabella -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 5:57:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

I am sorry that you think my post are misguided and rhetorical. I am not sure if you know what I mean by the phrase "what about teh menz". When it's expressed in this form, its using sarcasm in the means of the male issue is not important or it shouldn't be taken into consideration. Feminists use this phrase all the time when male issues are raised in their presence. I find it hilariously ironic coming from a person who represents a group that's supposed to be against sexism and discrimination.

I am not sure what you exactly meant here.



What I mean is your OP tried to introduce men's issues within the context of feminism. It'd sort of be like me going to a gay rights march to talk about racism.


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But what I have thought for a long time, if feminists were truly about gender equality for all, why not call themselves huminists? It's obvious that the movement is terribly one-sided even in the extremes of putting men down who raise issues that affect men.


Glad to clear that up.



naughtynick81 -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 6:07:26 PM)

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Not much detail to it.  If your points of debate are strong enough on their own, why should you have to resort to attempting to malign a responder's intelligence?


For the same reason why you keep repeating that I am a misogynist.

I called you a moron because you simply misrepresented me with a cockeyed belief.

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No.  Literally, the title of this thread has changed on the scroll a number of times.  I did think it was amusing under the title that brought Me to it in the first place.  When I saw it was your original, yes, that made it funnier.  Your posting history on the subject has proceeded this thread and yes, people do form opinions.


This is an example of what I mean when you are playing along to the shaming tactic games...

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Any chance you want to tag the other thread with the above comment?  I do have to wonder how some folks just don't get it.


There are probably other examples of you doing similar in this thread but I couldn’t be bothered going back finding it.

My point is that you accept and play along with such behaviour of ad homimem attacks when it's directed at me, but you will jump at this type of accusation when I make such attacks towards you.

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The domestic violence issue, however, I do not skip, as I hope to assist in spreading any knowledge that I may have to contribute.


The whole problem I have with the DV issue is simply that male victims are not given the equal consideration that they deserve and people refuse to see how extremely sexist it truly is. It's like a different culture who are a minority to the population compared to whites in a society. People would quickly jump at the accusation of racism if they got less consideration. Even that they are the minority of the population which also means they are the minority of victims. But such discrimination is only passed through political correctness when its against men as a gender.



thornhappy -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 6:39:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
What movement was started to allow unattractive males more access to mainstream America?  I've seen no shortage of women married to butt ugly guys. Just go to an engineering conference and hang around the lobby.



That would be "capitalism" dear.
[:D]

* snort *
Man, it's amazing.  I'm talkin' dudes who smell from 5 feet away!  Gracious.



Lockit -> RE: How To Lie Like A Feminist (9/16/2010 6:44:10 PM)

Too bad the grapes around here are so sour, we could make wine, but at this rate it would be nothing but bitter. [:'(]



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