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colosubseeking -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/25/2006 8:37:18 AM)
ShiftedJewel: i wouldn't so much say that i have to "make" myself submit, it's more like i my enthusiasm drains a bit. After an orgasm, some of the "excitement factor" in my submission drains, because it is very hard to get aroused immediately after an orgasm. So, i still want to submit on an emotional level, but the physical excitement of submission all but dissappears for a while.

ShiftedJewel -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/25/2006 10:48:23 AM)
*colosubseeking, thank you so much for clarifying that for me. The way you describe what you are feeling makes perfect sense to me.*

Misstoyou -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/25/2006 5:17:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MichMasochist My vanilla girlfriend can get a "rise" out of me easy enough unless I'm physically exhausted or have a real head-ache. Then my body doesn't care what either of us want. [/quote My sub's submissive-factor is more dependant on his general exhaustion level, whether mental or physcial. He in a very high-stress mostly tosterone-driven profession, and some days he finds it difficult to let that go. But he is truly submissive, and luckily there has not been a time when his body didn't recognize its owner from a touch literally anywhere. It's so very fun to watch him involuntarily respond, though exhausted, the from a hand on his arm, or touching his cheek or the back of his neck. (Groping would just be too easy. lol) Overall though, once I get that breakthrough, his submission doesn't end with his eventual orgasm. And luckily for me, he's very fit, and his usability returns in no time at all. [:)] ** Edited to add I just got back from Amsterdam and am too damn tired to figure out what I did wrong with the quoting and the font color.

Tommy4her -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/25/2006 6:00:04 PM)
I cannot speak for others, but the time before orgasm and after is always different for me. This is more so in vanilla sex than in a D/s relationship because I am more concerned about pleasing my Domme. The teasing/denial aspect is one of my favorites, and there is a certain thrill in being told that I will be locked up for the rest of the year, etc. This is part of the teasing and would not be believable if I thought she was serious. As for beating me back into submission, that may also be part of the game for her. Perhaps my behavior after orgasm is different enough that she sees me as resisting. Tommy4her

TedEbear -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/26/2006 6:28:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel I’ve talked to a lot of male submissive/slaves and the one thing that I keep hearing is that they “need” to be in chastity. I won’t pretend to even slightly understand this way of thinking, that’s why I’m asking here. Is an orgasm the on/off switch for a male submissive? Do you loose your sub/slave mindset, even for a little while, after getting off? I’ve heard of female dominants that keep their males in chastity most of the time and on the occasion that they do allow them to get off they then spend a week beating them back into submission. But in the same respect I know of many female sub/slaves that don’t have any issue at all with it, they can get off dozens of times and never loose that state of mind, granted they may loose the ability to walk or stand upright for a bit, but they hold to their sub/slave mindset. I’d be thrilled if someone could explain this to me. I mean other then “it’s the nature of the beast” crap that I keep hearing. If it’s the nature of the beast then where does that put their submission? Does that imply that a male’s submission is more physical then mental? Does your submission stem from sexual desire or need rather then the mental need to serve or be submissive? And if so, where does that leave the female dominant that enjoys a male’s orgasm? It is always sexually motived, even by those who claim that it is not. For those individuals seeking chastity it's most likely the product of sexual fantasy. Except in extreme cases. As a sub, not slave, it doesn't end my submisiveness I just need to rest a bit This is my opinion. Take it for what ever value you want to give it.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/26/2006 7:34:59 PM)
My understanding is that this thread is not asking what your motivation is for submitting. The question at hand is do you become less submissive or lose your sumissive desires/will once you cum, to which you replied nicely by the way quote: As a sub, not slave, it doesn't end my submisiveness I just need to rest a bit Most dominas understand the male need to rest a bit as well for you men especially; what I believe most of us take issue with, and the reason many dominas like the chastity option, is Al bundy showing up after a man cums. [8D] M

TedEbear -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/26/2006 7:50:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig My understanding is that this thread is not asking what your motivation is for submitting. -----clipped----- and the reason many dominas like the chastity option, is Al bundy showing up after a man cums. [8D] M Still think the motive for being involved directly correlates to the inquiry even if not expressly asked. However I understand the Al Bundy analogy. The Peg Bundy domme is the dread from the opposite perspective. The bonbon eating, couch sitting, pay check spender.

MichMasochist -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/26/2006 7:53:04 PM)
I say break out the whips and adjust his attitude. [:D] Or get a new subby/slave.[:)]

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/26/2006 10:03:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TedEbear Still think the motive for being involved directly correlates to the inquiry even if not expressly asked. However I understand the Al Bundy analogy. The Peg Bundy domme is the dread from the opposite perspective. The bonbon eating, couch sitting, pay check spender. You're right, she's terrible as a fem domme with that tacky style, and allowing her boy to behave so badly without a kick to the crotch or whip anywhere to be seen, lol. M

Reasonable -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/26/2006 10:55:58 PM)
It's very simple,fluid pressure. When male seminal fluids collect in the prostate the natural instinct is for the nerve impulses to heighten the sex drive. It vanishes as soon as the pressure is let off. Controlling it allows the keyholder to redirect the energy to other uses.

TedEbear -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/27/2006 3:59:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Reasonable It's very simple,fluid pressure. When male seminal fluids collect in the prostate the natural instinct is for the nerve impulses to heighten the sex drive. It vanishes as soon as the pressure is let off. Controlling it allows the keyholder to redirect the energy to other uses. LOL If this is even accurate, and I admit it sounds so. The only amount of redirect possible would be in a direction where the release of the seminal pressure would be appearant, or otherwise obviously know to the male. Like my dog shadow when he scents a bitch in heat he won't stop, even becoming more unmanagable untill he gets to release his seminal pressure.

amayos -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/27/2006 5:17:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel I’ve talked to a lot of male submissive/slaves and the one thing that I keep hearing is that they “need” to be in chastity. I won’t pretend to even slightly understand this way of thinking, that’s why I’m asking here. Is an orgasm the on/off switch for a male submissive? Do you loose your sub/slave mindset, even for a little while, after getting off? I am not submissive, but being male, I can certainly attest to there being a plummet in sexual drive directly after an orgasm. This is basically nature's way of saying, "you're done now—get off of her and relax." A message which, if never chemically relayed to the male, would mean he would never leave her alone. Does climax affect submission in the male? The answer to that question hinges upon whether or not his "submission" was based solely on sexual pleasure. Regardless, a dominant female will notice a difference in the behavior of her male immediately after his ejaculation. His mental reverence will (or should) still be there, but his sexual energies will wane for a short spell. Prolactin and endorphins rise sharply after orgasm and disable sexual interest temporarily. Do not take this biological process personally if he isn't fiery and hard for you five minutes later. To ensure unimpeded male sexual drive—particularly in older males—it is wise to deny their orgasm as long as possible, and I'm not talking a few mere days; measuring out their chastity in months is usually best.

Reasonable -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/27/2006 5:22:28 PM)
One needs also to remember that a male releases a great deal of energy during orgasm (ki,whether you believe in that or no) And focus and drive then tend to give way to exhaustion. This is why many tops sublimate the sex drive as a means of control. Sex is a powerful drive,and if harnessed,can be put to a great many other productive uses.

KYsissy -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/27/2006 5:45:47 PM)
From my point of view, the desire to please is DEFINITLEY at it's peak before an orgasm. When I have been teased or gone down on Mistress for a long time I am so worked up I am open to almost any idea she may come up with. Afterwards I am not so eager and compliant but I still am submissive and will cater to her if she wants a drink or something. It takes a while (hours not days) to get me back to the totally submissive state but I never turn into Al Bundy. I think the sub you are talking about equates submission with no orgasm and nothing else. I don't know how you change that but you can probably think up something. Maybe make him cum three times a day minimum and keep him busy with chores?

unpantsed -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/27/2006 10:27:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel *Is an orgasm the on/off switch for a male submissive?* ABSOLUTELY!!! lol! At least for this one! But it only lasts a minute...sigh...and then it's back to business as usual. quote: *Does that imply that a male’s submission is more physical then mental? Does your submission stem from sexual desire or need rather then the mental need to serve or be submissive?* I'd say that mine is definitely sexually related. Are there any men around whose total psychological makeup isn't focused on sex? lol I'm being facetious and glib, obviously, but I'd never underestimate the role that sex plays in the male psyche. Otoh, I have to admit that I'm not really a "submissive." I'm definitely a "bottom" fetishist or kinkster, but I don't see myself as a "submissive" personality essentially. So I guess it's possible a truly "submissive" male might feel different. But I'd be surprised if you found many who did! lol! quote: *And if so, where does that leave the female dominant that enjoys a male’s orgasm?* I suspect right where you wanna be! Our sex drive ain't going anywhere. And oddly enough, the times when a man needs it most desperately can be sooner rather than later after a release. I've found the really desperately torturously crazy agonizing periods of need to be more a couple of days after release rather than, say, a week down the road. Not that you don't need it bad after a week without--but in my experience there's nothing as insanely and cruelly agonizing as being teased to the brink and denied 2 or 3 days after a long delayed release! So the worst that happens is you'll have to browse a magazine or catch your favorite sitcom for awhile after his release. But don't worry, you'll be back in the driver's seat in no time! [sm=crop.gif] [sm=smile.gif]

bignipples2share -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/28/2006 1:13:59 AM)
quote: I'm empathic... yes, I feed off the emotions of those around me, and when a man gets off there is such an amazing burst of emotion from him that I "feel", it's nothing short of an addiction for me. Ok.... new kink here... lol I really don't want to sound crude here, but it isn't all that difficult to get a man hard (under normal circumstances that is). But to bring him to a point where he no longer has any control and he's gonna get off whether he wants to or not... That is not so easy but oh so fun to do. There is nothing, as far as I'm concerned, that is more fun then building up, bringing down, then building up... over and over, until they have no choice in the matter... It's as exciting to me as it is to them. I agree with this, although for me, I just fed off of his emotions, not others around me and yes, I'm addicted to it as well. For me, it's all very sexually based and was more orgasm denial than any type of chasity. I think we would both have gotten cranky and mean if no release were coming at the end of a session. He had no problem going right back into pleasing me mode. If he was reluctant, he never showed it. It may have been that his motivation was for the next session, which if it were up to him would have been in 10 minutes LOL

Vendaval -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/28/2006 1:42:08 AM)
[:'(] Ewwwww!!! Now that is the "scary pic" that is being discussed in another thread! And doesn't Al Bundy work in a shoe store and have a foot/shoe fetish? -Vendaval-

mechbot972007 -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/29/2006 10:21:38 AM)
its kind-a like when you use the over....even after you turn it off its still hot the male sub may have the flame out but he is still hot after a climax besides once you know what buttons to push...that oven will not remain off for long!! as i have read on these forums CB is about the impossing of control...hers over his i vote that the male orgazm is a "temp lag" in his service..not a hard on/off (no pun) Respectfully chris

TeeGO -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/29/2006 10:52:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: amayos To ensure unimpeded male sexual drive—particularly in older males—it is wise to deny their orgasm as long as possible, and I'm not talking a few mere days; measuring out their chastity in months is usually best. You are a sadistic bastard aren't you. Months? Easy for you to say.

IronBear -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/29/2006 12:35:53 PM)
So ok you have the odd male sub/slave who when he is all hot under the collar and the old fella is twitching and ready for action and he starts getting a ad domm like.... CHAIN THE FUCKER UP! Suspend him spreadeagled and use him if you want to have fun or just get the ruber apron and industrial rubber gloves on and milk him (you could induce a hypodermic needle into him and drain him that way too of course). When it's done and you have fiished playing, if he still hae a woody get a rolled up news paper and beat the crapout of him untill it becomes limp. If his testostrone brain storm disrupted you doing other things, kick the shit out of his testicals..... believe me after a few repeats of this he will either only want to get his rocks off when you are ready, hide from you and wank in the dunny or beg you to go to extreem CBT often.....

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