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twicehappy -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/30/2006 5:41:04 AM)

Excellent advice IronBear, and if i thought it would provide her with what she is looking for in a male subbie i would help her with rolling up the newspaper.

But i know what it is she searches for. My Mistress is a loving extremely devoted person of high intelligence with a bit (ok a good bit) of a sadistic streak. What she searches for though she states subbie is a male slave. One who serves her and well from utter devotion to the person that she is. One she can love back, care for, protect and guide. One who can laugh, hold an intelligent conversation, open doors, and rub her feet with a smile on his face simply because he is at her feet. She really is searching for a lifetime commitment.

She does not want to have to keep him in chastity to insure his service. Nor does she want to whip him or micro manage him daily.

Before anyone questions the fact that she should be getting these things from me let me state that to the best of my knowledge i give her all of this. I do however lack some of the necessary equipment to indulge her desires. And there as are two dominants in this household, there are plenty of times having a male of her own would be best. I do care for both equally yet my time is split between them. Mainly though and quite simply she craves that "one" male at her feet. After all if all she wanted was sex she has plenty of opportunities here in the house for that.  




ShiftedJewel -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/30/2006 6:46:20 AM)

I appreciate all of the input and advice that I've received on this thread. What I have learned is that it depends on the male and his particular mindset and all the threads I've read concerning the topic have been to specific thus attracting only one part of the spectrum of males here. I have also learned that we dominants don't understand as much about male submissives as we need to and in turn, they don't understand us all that well either. To me BDSM is great.. it has it's place. In my world it's place is only an after thought, my focus is on the daily life, the Mistress/slave relationship and the bonding of the two (or more) people involved. And I've also learned that maybe what I'm looking does exist, but I'm not holding my breath. When it finds me, I'll know it.
 
I have also learned that no where is the rift between M/s and BDSM more evident then where sex is concerned. Can you involve sex in a strictly M/s relationship? I don't see why not. I honestly don't see where it would change anything. Even when actually slavery was legal the owners often used the females for sex... and the female slaves rarely, if ever, forgot their place. On the occasion that one did, it was quickly reinforced. I believe the same thing to be true today. If one is of a slave mindset then how is sex going to change it? 
 
Ok, I'll stop preaching or ranting, what ever you wish to call it... lol
 
I just want to thank all of you for teaching me so much.
 
Jewel 



RadioFlyer -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/30/2006 8:33:30 AM)

This is an interesting question that I've given a lot of thought to and even taken time to study after Mistress allows me to orgasm.  I think it is a good excercise in submission and limits since I do have a hard time submitting after orgasm but I enjoy doing my best and putting forth the extra effort it takes to be in submission in a way that is satisfactory to her after orgasm.

-RF



understud -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/30/2006 9:39:07 AM)

an on off switch...hum... i can't speak for anyone and some would wish i didn't speak at all lol.  For myself, no. Sex is not the determinate factor in seeking this lifestyle. I have more than a few e-m that believe the only reason I am here is for sexual fulfillment. No! most definitely not.  How can I explain to you something so deeply felt. Sex is a part of any life style to some degree.  Willingly or not. Imho sex is only one facet of the relationship. Yet some would have me think it the entire relationship...I respect their right to their opinion, but in my case an orgasm is just that nothing more, something very special and nice, not the overwhelming desire of an oversexed maniac constantly looking for stimulation so he can whack off again.  What puzzles me is it seems so many refuse to see or even care that I am not others, I would therefore think a few have been chosen to represent the whole...very illogical.
If I experience an orgasm, if anything my submission is intensified, as warm wonderful overwhelming flood of appreciation and recommitment to my dominate, encases my entire being.  That said I would still feel the same warm overwhelming flood of devotion regardless.  Yes, and no I'm not lying. For myself orgasm is a side benefit; not the whole prize, but I doubt very many will believe me. Well the question was asked...and there it is, a single answer from one person. Not part of the herd though often dumped in with them, not constantly looking to blow my cookies; or trying to see how many time i can jerk off in a day.  Submission is it's own reward; sex is only one small, very small part of this INDIVIDUALS life. So I believe the answer is no  or it should be so, orgasm is not an on off switch, yet sadly for many they believe it true and may apply to some....To each there own and have it your own way, be happy and enjoy to the fullest.  But remember everyone is just that, a single life. No more or less ONE, an individual different from anyone else. How they live in submission is none of my business and I wish them well; when my beliefs are lumped into the general and taken as fact...it becomes my duty to try and say something, as I said the e-m received are a testament as to how others view submissive....be well and  I hope I haven't offended
always respectful
understud



understud -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/30/2006 10:40:47 AM)

an on off switch...hum... i can't speak for anyone and some would wish i didn't speak at all lol.  For myself, no. Sex is not the determinate factor in seeking this lifestyle. I have more than a few e-m that believe the only reason I am here is for sexual fulfillment. No! most definitely not.  How can I explain to you something so deeply felt. Sex is a part of any life style to some degree.  Willingly or not. Imho sex is only one facet of the relationship. Yet some would have me think it the entire relationship...I respect their right to their opinion, but in my case an orgasm is just that nothing more, something very special and nice, not the overwhelming desire of an oversexed maniac constantly looking for stimulation so he can whack off again.  What puzzles me is it seems so many refuse to see or even care that I am not others, I would therefore think a few have been chosen to represent the whole...very illogical.
If I experience an orgasm, if anything my submission is intensified, as warm wonderful overwhelming flood of appreciation and recommitment to my dominate, encases my entire being.  That said I would still feel the same warm overwhelming flood of devotion regardless.  Yes, and no I'm not lying. For myself orgasm is a side benefit; not the whole prize, but I doubt very many will believe me. Well the question was asked...and there it is, a single answer from one person. Not part of the herd though often dumped in with them, not constantly looking to blow my cookies; or trying to see how many time i can jerk off in a day.  Submission is it's own reward; sex is only one small, very small part of this INDIVIDUALS life. So I believe the answer is no  or it should be so, orgasm is not an on off switch, yet sadly for many they believe it true and may apply to some....To each there own and have it your own way, be happy and enjoy to the fullest.  But remember everyone is just that, a single life. No more or less ONE, an individual different from anyone else. How they live in submission is none of my business and I wish them well; when my beliefs are lumped into the general and taken as fact...it becomes my duty to try and say something, as I said the e-m received are a testament as to how others view submissive....be well and  I hope I haven't offended
always respectful
understud   PS had to paste this from  where I posted to wrong recipient....duah, I may be loyay but still stupid



amayos -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/30/2006 11:05:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TeeGO

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ORIGINAL: amayos
To ensure unimpeded male sexual drive—particularly in older males—it is wise to deny their orgasm as long as possible, and I'm not talking a few mere days; measuring out their chastity in months is usually best.

You are a sadistic bastard aren't you.
 


Yes, indeed I am.


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ORIGINAL: TeeGOMonths?  Easy for you to say.


Been there, actually. Denial enhances pleasure.



LadyHugs -> RE: Is a male orgasm an on/off switch to submission? (4/30/2006 11:13:50 AM)

Dear ShiftedJewel; Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
The only "on/off" switch on men are their cocks (toggle switch)--[Chuckles]
 
All kidding aside though, I have been in the lifestyle over thirty years now--long before these "devices" for male chastity gadgets were invented.  The submission of men comes from heart, mind and honor, with sex thrown in.
 
I've been around Gay men, Bisexual men, Straight men -- love them all.  When they submit and put another in control (the Dominant), it is the creative dominant that teases, toys, torments and plays with their cock and balls that will at one point be allowed to release; pleases them the most.
 
Personally, I think it has to do with each man's personal wiring however, having their cock and balls loose to grab and tease is more fun than taking the darn chastity contraption off and then get busy -- timing is thrown off for sure.  Men in submission will speak with body language and their whimpers of needing some relief of swollen/blue balls.
 
I'm a fan of naked men -- Times where I have them just stand and gaze with appreciation of how beautiful a man's body is.  Something to admire, to cherish and of course drive 'em nuts until they get off a few nuts.
 
Warmly submitted,
Lady Hugs
 
 



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