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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:13:37 PM   
Cherylmazana


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Status: offline 		a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?

Not these days my daughters friends on the whole tend to have as many if not more sexual partners than their men friends.

b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?

Again not these days, from talking to many women in their 20’s it seems to be pretty much the same

c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?

It always has been and always will, a pig ugly ignorant man without money will have to pay for sex, one with lots will get women flocking to him, of course he still pays but the women don’t consider themselves prostitutes

d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?

Yes

e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?

Yes

Cheryl

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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:17:10 PM   
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Liking to be the prettier one in the relationship...

Both cuter and prettier?!!?! What's left?

Not all of us can pull off handsome, I tell you.

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ORIGINAL: jujubeeMB
Obviously that's a sweeping generalization, and I have known lots of incredibly good-looking guys who were also decent people, but there's something about guys who have been insecure at one point or another that makes for a much more interesting human being.


Actually, I've read something similar here before, worded differently and expanded to include other flaws.

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I like broken things. I don't want to put them back together, I just like to see what makes someone tick without being held responsible for the mess it would make to take them apart myself. I tend to get along well with these people. I also resemble this remark.


I'm thankful for both comments, for different reasons that I wouldn't be able to explain.
There are those who try to "change" their partners into a seemingly less interesting version of themselves. "Better human being" is always good; anything else comes across as deeply unappreciative.

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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:19:08 PM   
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a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?


Yes - based on the men I work with, who rarely stick to one girl in every port.

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b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?


Yes - see previous answer.

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c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?


No

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d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?


Yes - although at times "availability" appears more important to men than "beauty".

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e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?


Yes - just listen to them at the pub after a few beers!

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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:26:25 PM   
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b: yes
c: yes
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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:34:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

OK, I've been doing research recently and I have a few questions to see what people here generally believe. Note, all of these questions are only relevant to the straight community... this is about males and females mating. I have no idea what, if any, differences in the data would show up for the gay & lesbian communities. I'd also ask that you not go google answers here... I'm looking for what you accept as truth.

a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?
b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?
c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?
d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?
e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?

Thanks

a)  No
b)  No
c)  Yes
d)  No
e)  No

Edited to add:

I think that the data is likely to be skewed by the fact that both men and women are likely to lie in response to some of these questions.  Interestingly, I think women are more likely to lie to minimize the number of sexual partners and the number of their infidelities and indiscretions, while men are likely to lie to maximize these numbers.


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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:37:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

OK, I've been doing research recently and I have a few questions to see what people here generally believe. Note, all of these questions are only relevant to the straight community... this is about males and females mating. I have no idea what, if any, differences in the data would show up for the gay & lesbian communities. I'd also ask that you not go google answers here... I'm looking for what you accept as truth.

a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?
b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?
c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?
d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?
e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?

Thanks


Hmmm, what I accept as *truth*. That takes some thinking about. It's hard for me to distinguish between what I think and what I actually *know* to be the case in my (admittedly) tiny experience.

Anyhow , here are my thoughts........

No
No
Can't answer that as I truly haven't a clue.
Yes
Yes

Without qualifying my answers, that's the best I can do. If I was challenged on them, I'd have to actually *think* about it and it would change what I actually seem to *think*.

I'm actually surprised that I hold some of these thoughts, when I have little real experience of them.

Very interesting Jeff,

agirl



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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:37:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527


a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?

Yes.

b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?

Yes.

c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?

Yes.

d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?

No.

e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?

Yes.


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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:39:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?

No.  I find that men, on the average will TALK about the number of sexual partners they've had  more than women will. I think that on average women have more sexual partners than men, but due  to gender biased social customs refuse to divulge the actual numbers.


b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?

No.   It can be quantified on a case by case basis.


c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?

No. There are SOME women who believe this, but I think more men believe it than women do.  It's a specious and  divisive myth which further polarises men and women. Quite a few hideous men make a lot of money. And I'm not speaking of their looks alone.




d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?

No.  I don't think it's gender specific,, it's based on an individual's value system. Many men and women  will go for beauty first, and personality is what they'll accept if they can't get beauty.  Sometimes they're unhappy when they find that the beauty they ended up with also has a personality, and a strong one.
But then, I'm a cynic, and think that there are many  people who are shallow.



e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?

No. Men and women just lie in different ways. A man will be more likely to use words deceptively.  A woman will be more likely to use deception concerning her appearance.



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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 7:40:59 PM   
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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 8:03:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527
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a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?

If you don't count homosexual pairings, this is mathematically impossible. The number of men and women is approximately equal, and each pairing by definition involves a man and a women. The total number of pairings is the same for both sexes. The number of men and women is nearly equal, so the average number of pairings per person must be the same.






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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 8:20:20 PM   
poise


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Status: offline 		Man number 1 has intimate relations with female number 3 4 9 14 18 23 26 29 32 37 and 45
Female number 1 only had intimate relations with man number 2 7 12 19 and 25

This man had 11 partners.
This woman had 5 
The math works fine.

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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 8:48:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aBondageTop
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ORIGINAL: leadership527
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a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?

If you don't count homosexual pairings, this is mathematically impossible. The number of men and women is approximately equal, and each pairing by definition involves a man and a women. The total number of pairings is the same for both sexes. The number of men and women is nearly equal, so the average number of pairings per person must be the same.


Woah, good point! Wait a second. Perhaps he meant the median average.

Example:
W: 1 1 1   1 1 6 (Don't blame her - all of those 6 men are pure gold.)
M: 2 2 2   2 2 1
         ^
Mean : 11/6
Median W: 1, M: 2.

So, whoever replied "yes, men do" meant that women come in more extreme flavors in the distribution.
Or that men have more homosexual sex.*

If anyone's answer makes no sense now, just blame Jeff.

Edited: *Mock my wikipedia linking if you must , but I only found examples of larger portions of  men having more homosexual encounters than women. I thought it was the other way around before checking.

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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 9:13:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		i think the OP is asking about the average number of sexual partners for men and the average for women. If you assume each partnership is heterosexual and monogamous, then a sexual experience= 1 man + 1 woman. Thus, the average for men (not A MAN, not one particular man, but men in general), and the average for women (not A WOMAN, not one particular women, ...) MUST be the same number, because for every man there is one woman. The AVERAGE of sexual partners must be equal, for men and women.

That is not the same as saying that one PARTICULAR WOMAN can't have more or less partners than one PARTICULAR MAN.

pam

P.S.- Sorry, i'm on a logic kick today.

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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 9:22:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

i think the OP is asking about the average number of sexual partners for men and the average for women. If you assume each partnership is heterosexual and monogamous, then a sexual experience= 1 man + 1 woman. Thus, the average for men (not A MAN, not one particular man, but men in general), and the average for women (not A WOMAN, not one particular women, ...) MUST be the same number, because for every man there is one woman. The AVERAGE of sexual partners must be equal, for men and women.

That is not the same as saying that one PARTICULAR WOMAN can't have more or less partners than one PARTICULAR MAN.

pam

P.S.- Sorry, i'm on a logic kick today.


SWho is monogamous and why would you assume that? Not a very good logic kick.

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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 9:27:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?


No. I just think women are still conditioned to lie about the number of sexual partners they have had.

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b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?


Yes. Though I don't believe *all* men are unfaithful.

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c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?


It is for me. It is for a lot of the women I know but I don't think that is true across the board.

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d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?


No.

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e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?


No I think both sexes are pretty adept at getting what they want by whatever means necessary.



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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 9:29:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?
b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?
c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?
d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?
e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?

Wow, I must be far too naive and optimistic or something. Or maybe my pool of knowledge is a bit shallow in this case. Here's my

a) Not a clue on this one, as I know plenty who are selective, others who sleep all over the place both men and women.

b) Hell no, this one goes both ways. I've seen enough to tell me that.

c) Always has been, always will be. Winning personality and looks may count for a lot, but if you ain't got the money then you ain't got the honey.

d) Hard to say, as I haven't compared notes with all my guy pals. All I can say that for me beauty is far more than skin deep, so maybe I'm outside the norm.

e) I think it's dependent on personal history, desperation and ability to attract a partner. If I had to bet I'd say it's closer to an even split. Then again I don't get the whole deception to gain approval gambit, sooner or later it comes out in the wash.



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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 9:30:55 PM   
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b)NO
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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 10:27:55 PM   
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a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?


Does a lion have many lionesses in his pride?

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b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?


Does the buck inseminate every doe in the herd or not?

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c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?


Does a peacock who flutters his tailfeathers (or whatever he flutters), get the peafowl?

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d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?


Does a black widow spider actually care about the personality of the male?

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e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances?


Do you realize that even dolphins form gangs of young males that rape females by force?

Thanks

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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 10:42:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's my take:

a) Do you believe men, on the average, have more sexual partners over a lifetime than women?  Yes
b) Do you believe that men are more likely to be unfaithful than women?  Yes
c) Do you think a male's status/income is a significant driver in "attractiveness"?  Yes
d) Do you believe (in broad brush strokes) that women select for "personality" while men select for "beauty"?  Yes
e) Do you believe men are more likely than women to deceive in order to increase their chances? No



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RE: Of men and women... the dating game - 9/14/2010 10:45:12 PM   
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If you assume each partnership is heterosexual and monogamous, then a sexual experience= 1 man + 1 woman.


Actually, now that i think about it, it doesn't matter if it's monogamous. If a guy has sex with two girls, it would count as two sexual encounters, 1 guy + 1 girl, and 1 guy + 1 girl. (The two girls can't have sex with each other, because the heterosexual part still matters. It would throw off the data if the girls are having sex with each other...)

BUT ASSUMING ONLY HETEROSEXUAL ACTS...
For every man having sex there is a woman that he's having sex with. So it counts as one sexual encounter for each of them. Chalk up one partner for the men, and one for the women. Since that happens every time anybody has sex with anybody (as long as it's heterosexual), neither men (as a group) nor women (as a group) can average out to have more sexual partners.

Anyway, i think that's right. but i definitely think they should start giving that as a word problem in school. How many sexual partners does it take... Can you imagine?

pam

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