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The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 6:28:05 PM   
cloudboy


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I saw a profile that stated:

Let's start with the main points:
- You should be intelligent but want to be treated like a mindless fucktoy.
- You should be extreme but discreet.
- You should be classy but not above being used as a human urinal.
- You should be attractive but not expect to be treated as such.
- You should long to please but not expect it to be reciprocated.
- You should be independent but want to be owned.

If you are these things, perhaps you can be my property.

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What is your take on these contradictions? As weird as it is, there is some truth in the absurdities here -- at least on a short term basis. LT my view slides towards "no way" and "unworkable."

How much can a person be split into two separate and distinct identities? How would such a duel life affect a someone?

Is all of the above just fantasy projection?

Does this describe a healthy BDSM situation?

Let's hear you take!!
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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 6:30:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		What makes us hot and happy isn't logical. An extremely intelligent person may love to be objectified... the two are not mutually exclusive

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 6:53:13 PM   
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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 6:58:54 PM   
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The intelligent "fucktoy"


Contrast
Makes
Everything

Best kind of fucktoy. They practically "fuck" themselves given the right ideas.
Edit: ...Erm, I meant to say:
This surprises me. Please elaborate.

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 7:03:26 PM   
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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 7:09:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I feel its the contrast that many find appealing in the first place.
Id love to come home from a hard day at the office and have him grab my hair
with one hand, tear my business suit off with his other, then have his way with me.
I have a brain....and I know how to use it


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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 7:29:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Because when you're done fucking them, you have to have something else to do the other 23 hours and 58 minutes of the day.

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 7:55:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: windchymes

Because when you're done fucking them, you have to have something else to do the other 23 hours and 58 minutes of the day.

2 minutes . . .  is that from personal experience?

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 7:58:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I consider myself an intelligent fucktoy. What's the problem? Can't intelligent women/men want to be treated like dirty little things too?

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 8:00:40 PM   
Kaliko


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quote:

Let's start with the main points:
- You should be intelligent but want to be treated like a mindless fucktoy.
- You should be extreme but discreet.
- You should be classy but not above being used as a human urinal.
- You should be attractive but not expect to be treated as such.
- You should long to please but not expect it to be reciprocated.
- You should be independent but want to be owned.


Check
Check
Check
Check
Check
Check

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 8:24:48 PM   
Cy83r


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy
Let's start with the main points:
- You should be intelligent but want to be treated like a mindless fucktoy.
- You should be extreme but discreet.
- You should be classy but not above being used as a human urinal.
- You should be attractive but not expect to be treated as such.
- You should long to please but not expect it to be reciprocated.
- You should be independent but want to be owned.

If you are these things, perhaps you can be my property.


Check to all but the underlined.  I not sure if I'd be considered classy, but I'm certainly not crass, and if you read my profile, I'm on the fence about being a human urinal.  As for not expecting to be pleased, well, I've lived with that, so no, I don't expect to be pleased if I manage to find a mistress, but I certainly hope it will happen enough to make my servitude worthwhile.  Of course that mixes between being please and being happy, which can be two different things, so... check it too just for the hell of it, I'll take my lumps like I always have (with anxiety, frustration, mild fatalism, and hope).

I'd like to know who this is you're quoting, cloudboy.

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 9:06:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

What makes us hot and happy isn't logical. An extremely intelligent person may love to be objectified... the two are not mutually exclusive


Exactly. I think this follows along the same lines as people with strong personalities yearning to be submissive. I know in my personally case, there is nothing weak about me or my personality but the right person can make me feel insanely weak and vulnerable. It's that dichotomy that is part of the attraction to BDSM for me.


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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 10:08:20 PM   
cloudboy


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ORIGINAL: windchymes

Because when you're done fucking them, you have to have something else to do the other 23 hours and 58 minutes of the day.


Yes, this is my old fart take as well; but there seems to be quite a rally in defense of contrasts and extremes -- and the belief too -- that they can be combined sanely and with satisfaction.

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I'd like to know who this is you're quoting, cloudboy.


Its off a maledom's profile; I think the trick for that guy is (1) knowing how to treat the sub as a sub and then; (2) knowing how to treat a woman as such in regular life. As the DOM, he's got to able to go both ways too.

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/25/2010 10:55:55 PM   
jujubeeMB


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Status: offline 		I like being a fucktoy frequently, and gosh golly gee am I intelligent

However. The whole not expecting reciprocal pleasure bit - not my cup of tea. This isn't my job, it's my sex life. If I'm not getting any pleasure out of it, forget it.

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/26/2010 12:17:07 AM   
Twoshoes


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Status: offline 		I don't see the value in some of those statements.
However, for you male subs, I will attempt an explanation of the subject line!

A woman gives you power over her sexuality, right? (Insert something about "between the ears" and other strange things that we don't need to care about.)

So what can we do after that?
Well, you could either spend your 2 minutes (gross overestimation!!! )...
or, with a vague semblance of an idea of what she's giving you , you could grill her patiently until she becomes "mindless". The more intelligent she is, the more she's offering you to work with and take.

Of course, you could choose not to bother and casually make use of her, but it's important to make sure she knows the difference - contrast and all.

I remember the submissive who posted that her Dom didn't take his pants off for a quite a few sessions, while doing just about everything else.
You may be thinking: "What a waste!"
My thoughts were: "I hope she learned to beg. And that it didn't help her any."

The power is in the concept (not the 2 minutes).

And power is yummy, fuzzy and kind of like a dark chocolate bar. You end up wanting to feel it constantly and not for a mere minute or two... It may be an illusion, but it sure tastes good anyway.

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/26/2010 4:03:42 AM   
agirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


I saw a profile that stated:

Let's start with the main points:
- You should be intelligent but want to be treated like a mindless fucktoy.
- You should be extreme but discreet.
- You should be classy but not above being used as a human urinal.
- You should be attractive but not expect to be treated as such.
- You should long to please but not expect it to be reciprocated.
- You should be independent but want to be owned.

If you are these things, perhaps you can be my property.

--------

What is your take on these contradictions? As weird as it is, there is some truth in the absurdities here -- at least on a short term basis. LT my view slides towards "no way" and "unworkable."

How much can a person be split into two separate and distinct identities? How would such a duel life affect a someone?

Is all of the above just fantasy projection?

Does this describe a healthy BDSM situation?

Let's hear you take!!


I'm not split into two separate identities and the majority of the above applies in my long-lived relationship with M. The opposites are just what I'm capable of in a suitable situation.

It's not in the least bit a dual life, anymore than being *very illogical and emotional* and also being *very logical and pragmatic* and I'm capable of both. We're capable of embracing the extremes of each other, that's all.

They're quite bald statements , not witnessed in the context of a relationship or in the context of a whole person.

Who's to say if we have a healthy M/s situation? It's fine for us but wouldn't suit plenty of other people.

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/26/2010 4:25:39 AM   
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- You should be intelligent but want to be treated like a mindless fucktoy.

Are intelligent people not allowed to want mindless sex? Being intelligent isn't the same as wanting to think and make decisions all the time.

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- You should be extreme but discreet.

I have no idea what is supposed to be contradictory about that.

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- You should be classy but not above being used as a human urinal.

To a sex positive person there's no 'above'-sexual acts are sexual acts-why would embracing this particular one stop her being classy?

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- You should be attractive but not expect to be treated as such.

I know a lot of women who think like this. Not all attractive people want their relationships to be based around their physical traits.

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- You should long to please but not expect it to be reciprocated.

This is probably the toughest one. But some people genuinely do get off on making their partners happy-if you alter it to say 'directly reciprocated' then I don't see that there is necessarily a contradiction.

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- You should be independent but want to be owned.

I suppose this one depends on how you define independent. Capable of independent thought? Capable of looking after yourself? Capable of showing initiative and getting on with things? Do those things necessarily contradict a desire to be owned?

I think you're making this more difficult than it is, cloudboy.

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/26/2010 4:39:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Spot on.

Personally - I'm not all that keen on the "without it being reciprocated" though.

Like a couple of the other posters here - I can't imagine a serious relationship with someone I did 't regard as intelligent... Simply put, there's no rush in getting a doormat to bend over for a spanking, there's tons to be had from getting an intelligent, independent, woman to submit...

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/26/2010 4:43:25 AM   
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- You should be intelligent but want to be treated like a mindless fucktoy.
- You should be extreme but discreet.
- You should be classy but not above being used as a human urinal.
- You should be attractive but not expect to be treated as such.
- You should long to please but not expect it to be reciprocated.
- You should be independent but want to be owned.




Kana heartily approves. "Hell to the fucking yeah," sort of approval.

Call it sexy librarian syndrome.
Lots of guys like the contradictions inherent in a demure lady who is a beast behind closed doors.This list is just a twist on that base concept.

< Message edited by Kana -- 9/26/2010 4:44:03 AM >

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RE: The intelligent "fucktoy" - fact or fiction? - 9/26/2010 4:44:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

- You should be attractive but not expect to be treated as such.
- You should long to please but not expect it to be reciprocated.




These are the two that don't really apply in my relationship or in my life in general with anyone. I can't imagine treating anyone in any particular way , just because they think they are *pretty or handsome*.

And, I don't *long to please* anyone, being in an M/s relationship hasn't changed that at all. I LIKE to please people around me in the same way they like to please me but it's certainly not a *longing* in any way.

agirl

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