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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/28/2010 11:06:25 PM   
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so is your point to distract us from the issue that nothing you can do will change the government because its out of your control?




No, my point is to say that you stole this little tidbit from another site. Its also higly unlikely that this story is true. Neither you or the poster there cite any sources. There is no such case.


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/28/2010 11:21:43 PM   
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so is your point to distract us from the issue that nothing you can do will change the government because its out of your control?




No, my point is to say that you stole this little tidbit from another site. Its also higly unlikely that this story is true. Neither you or the poster there cite any sources. There is no such case.



Oh its a very real case alright.

I see you have a hard time believing that the courts could possibly be so corrupt huh?

I am sure or at least I hope she is willing to to file criminal charges.  We dont even have the transcripts yet. 

I added to my previous post about traffic court.  If you are familiar enough with the constitution that you think you can create some kind of defense such that you are capable of following through it would be an experience of a lifetime for you to get it first hand.

Like termy said attaroneys testifying is hearsay!  Whats next rumor to convict?   See where this is going? 

Still does not answer the question of what good does it do to vote the bums out?

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 4:33:50 AM   
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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 5:21:55 AM   
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Coming from someone who is clueless to the facts with a definition and head expanded to the size of the pacific and huge leap of imagination I suppose I could take you seriously.

So I guess you wrapped this up and I just better concede that the courts are jim dandy honest abe and they make sure they protect every possible right even ones you havent thought of!

So hows voting the bums out working for ya?  fixes everything right?

May as well face it pal the system is broke and outside yours or anyone elses ability to fix it.  Obviously to painful for you to talk about.

BTW..... Have you figgered out which side is left and right yet?   Just curious?  LOL


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 5:35:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		RealOne, if a transcript hasn't been had in 11 months after the hearing, someone is pulling your leg.

Secondly, most Orders have to be appealed within 30 days, since this story was first posted in 2009, i would imagine this case is in the middle not the beginning or even close to the end.  If "she" is just starting to fight now lol what's she been doing in the last 11 months?  How do you explain this same exact story being posted on another forum 11 months ago?

There is nothing unusual or corrupted in your story.  People get thrown out of courts many times when they act like asses.  Parties decide all the time not to call witnesses.  You may want to check to see if the Court swore all witnesses in prior to the hearing beginning.  If they did, that could be why it seemed like the testifying attorney wasn't "sworn in" individually.  Attorneys do make statements to the court especially if there is no jury. And yes, unfortunately people lose their homes in forclosure all the time.  It doesn't make for a corrupt judges. 

I don't get your explanation of an attorney's first duty being to the court.  What does that have to do with this story?  IF she feels they attorney somehow behaved unethically, she is welcome to file a claim with the Board of professional responsibility and let them look into it. 

Sorry but i don't believe you are talking to the person in the story directly.  If some girl is telling you that is her story and you posted the same exact thing someone else did a year ago, she may be pulling your leg and utilizing your wanting to find the system corrupt as a way to exploit your gullibility.

Either way, there is nothing substantial in her story to indicate corruption.  Next time however, she may not want to get her ass thrown out of court.  And if its taken over 11 months for her to get the transcript lol she is lying to you.  IF she is saying this fight has just begun, she is lying to you as it should have continued 30 days after the order with an appeal of same.  So i would take this story with a grain of salt.  There really is nothing unusual as every sentence could be said to happen in Courts all across the country.  Doesn't make them corrupt, although many times a losing party likes to say that to make themselves feel better.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 5:39:50 AM   
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oh the topic is about me?



Yes.

You made it about you when you first didn't provide a link for your story, then you continued to make it about you when you claimed that you had personal knowledge of the situation that you were not allowed to divulge.

Then Tazzy exposed your bullshit and now you are trying to hide by claiming that your lies are off-topic.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 6:29:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
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Attorneys cannot testify on behalf of a witness (lawfully) regardless of being sworn in and should the attorney be sworn in that creates a conflict and violation of the ROP and they must recuse themselves from the matter.

Um, Mr. Chief Justice, I do believe you are not correct.

In fact, that is the purpose of having an attorney, so they can represent you.

He's half correct. The client must wave attorney client privilege. If he does the attorney can testify.

No, he's not right at all.

He is equating representing a client with testifying for the client.

There are cases heard everyday when the client never steps foot into the courtroom.

The only parts of a case that any lawyer can testify to is what facts he can bring to the case otherwise it is hearsay and not allowed and if allowed would fail upon appeal.

Plaintiffs must show up and testify, defendants do not but are well advised to do so.

Oh, and 'vote the bums out' would not change a thing on the bench and demonstrates that there is nothing left apparently for this poster with which to denigrate the left currently in power. We did vote-the-bums-out...2006-08


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 6:45:26 AM   
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The only parts of a case that any lawyer can testify to is what facts he can bring to the case otherwise it is hearsay and not allowed and if allowed would fail upon appeal.

Plaintiffs must show up and testify, defendants do not but are well advised to do so.



Maybe this is just a matter of choice of words but a lawyer does not testify, he represents.

The facts he offers are not testimony.

And plaintiffs are no more required to be present in court than defendants, depending of course on what is being decided and the judge's discretion.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 8:10:15 AM   
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The only parts of a case that any lawyer can testify to is what facts he can bring to the case otherwise it is hearsay and not allowed and if allowed would fail upon appeal.

Plaintiffs must show up and testify, defendants do not but are well advised to do so.

Maybe this is just a matter of choice of words but a lawyer does not testify, he represents.

The facts he offers are not testimony.

And plaintiffs are no more required to be present in court than defendants, depending of course on what is being decided and the judge's discretion.

As I wrote...'what facts a lawyer brings to the case'...nothing more. Normally, defense attorneys are not principals to a case as there is as likely...a conflict of interest.

Plaintiff is ultimately the prosecuting side and unless it is a civil case where lawyers sue on your behalf, the prosecution obviously must show up and formally present the case, if necessary...call witnesses to testify on behalf of the state.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 8:32:28 AM   
Real0ne


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oh the topic is about me?



Yes.

You made it about you when you first didn't provide a link for your story, then you continued to make it about you when you claimed that you had personal knowledge of the situation that you were not allowed to divulge.

Then Tazzy exposed your bullshit and now you are trying to hide by claiming that your lies are off-topic.



no link, like I said it was an email from one of the members.

You were looking at the date that poster joined.  It was posted the same day.  


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 8:47:28 AM   
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The only parts of a case that any lawyer can testify to is what facts he can bring to the case otherwise it is hearsay and not allowed and if allowed would fail upon appeal.

Plaintiffs must show up and testify, defendants do not but are well advised to do so.

Maybe this is just a matter of choice of words but a lawyer does not testify, he represents.

The facts he offers are not testimony.

And plaintiffs are no more required to be present in court than defendants, depending of course on what is being decided and the judge's discretion.

As I wrote...'what facts a lawyer brings to the case'...nothing more. Normally, defense attorneys are not principals to a case as there is as likely...a conflict of interest.

Plaintiff is ultimately the prosecuting side and unless it is a civil case where lawyers sue on your behalf, the prosecution obviously must show up and formally present the case, if necessary...call witnesses to testify on behalf of the state.



An attorney can bring no fact into a court unless the attorney is the injured party.

Principal to the case is a joinder issue and not the same,

A fact can only be established under oath by the injured party.

I call to the stand Mr. "State of New York".

Hmm Mr. judge it appears the attorney is in contempt of court.








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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 8:55:14 AM   
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oh the topic is about me?



Yes.

You made it about you when you first didn't provide a link for your story, then you continued to make it about you when you claimed that you had personal knowledge of the situation that you were not allowed to divulge.

Then Tazzy exposed your bullshit and now you are trying to hide by claiming that your lies are off-topic.



no link, like I said it was an email from one of the members.

You were looking at the date that poster joined.  It was posted the same day.  




Bullshit.

You posted... just the first lines tell it all...

quote:

with this kind of corruption?

We talk and talk and talk about left and right up and down and the rubber meets the road right here:

This is a young lady who went to court over foreclosure.


Then when you were called on it... you posted...

quote:

fr

well I only have permission to post what I did. The battle has just begun and she does not want more released at this time.


Then i posted the link to another site which has the same exact OP... to the letter... that you posted. So now your excuse is...

quote:

no link, like I said it was an email from one of the members.


Suddenly it went from first hand knowledge to an email from one of the members. You are going to need a backhoe to dig your way out of this one.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:03:25 AM   
Real0ne


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first hand knowledge as in "been there" as  WITNESS was never stated or implied.

You need to re-read the OP, she is talking about what happened to her not me or whatever else you construed out of that.

it was prefaced: This is a young lady who went to court over foreclosure.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:14:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		and all hearsay, and all interpreted by an interested third party with apparently no more legal acumen than you have............so..........a nice fable, damn the torpedos, whats for lunch  

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:18:58 AM   
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first hand knowledge as in "been there" as WITNESS was never stated or implied.

You need to re-read the OP, she is talking about what happened to her not me or whatever else you construed out of that.

it was prefaced: This is a young lady who went to court over foreclosure.


Is she a slave who speaks in third person? Because, in order to believe your fascinating tale, that would have to be the case. Else why would she call herself a young lady?

Face it, you got busted on your bullshit. Your op and the one from the other site are exactly the same.. including the young lady part. So dont even try to say that was your addition...


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:32:19 AM   
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you just keep adding as you go along dont you.  When you read the object is to understand what is being conveyed in the context the person is presenting it not to add whatever you feel to keep an irrelevant off topic point alive as long as you can, but you certainly are on a mission to paint me into something nefarious and by all means dont let context, reason or the fact that you are off topic stop you.


So how is voting the bums out been working for you?

change


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:34:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I based what i posted upon what you presented as being fact. When, in fact, it was stolen from another web site and no credit given. Amazing how that makes you seem less... believable.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:39:10 AM   
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and all hearsay, and all interpreted by an interested third party with apparently no more legal acumen than you have............so..........a nice fable, damn the torpedos, whats for lunch  


fables? there is no evidence of record that you are ron for that matter either ;)
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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:42:30 AM   
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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:43:58 AM   
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