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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:51:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

It also isnt hard to show someone stole someone elses words and tried to pass them off as an original thought.


ok how about this?

I am not going to give you the password to my email to prove a point and I am not the only member who gets them.

So once again your conclusions are drawn from evidence not entered into testimony.  LOL

AND The point still remains how is voting the bums out working for ya when they do nothing to fix the corrupt courts/system at large? 


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 9:55:51 AM   
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If your so happy to deal with the US Justice system, RealOne, consider, that you did, indeed break the law. Plagiarism, is the name of the law you broke. You more or less cut/paste another person's document and words, and tried to make it your own. When asked (I seem to recall someone asking) for the source, you ducked the question. So, tazzy was happy to provide it.

Then, bring out a huge legal circus, to try to explain US Legal System, like your a lawyer. And failed!

And yes, it is entirely easy to present a fact over the internet; Media Matters does it everyday. They tell people the REAL truth and facts of stories from Fox News.


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 10:28:20 AM   
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again you have nothing what so ever beyond your pure speculation but while you are all having so much fun dreaming up stuff to charge me with why dont we take a look at the real problems here?

Just how is voting the bums out working for ya anyway?


ALL the foreclosures and notices of sale, motions to lift stay, motions for summary judgment start the same way. Some party picked at random from the securitization chain comes in and starts a foreclosure sale (non-judicial) or a foreclosure lawsuit after documents are fabricated showing a chain of title that never happened and doesn’t exist.

MOST of the time borrowers and the Courts are intimidated by the presence of a “Bank” (which is neither acting as a bank nor was it the lender, creditor, or payee at any point in the process of the closing of the transaction between the homeowner as borrower and the investor as lender).

SOME of the time, borrowers are successful in their challenges to the foreclosure. The reason is not that the rest of the foreclosures are proper, right, legal or equitable. The reason is that in those cases where the borrower is successful they managed to get the Judge to pause long enough to actually look at the documents being presented and to allow the borrower to inquire as to their authenticity and authority. If there is such an inquiry the borrower wins. If there is no such inquiry, the borrower loses.

Fla Ct Finds JP Morgan Intentionally and Knowingly Committed Fraud on The Court

I am not going to take the time to review this but the gist of it is pretty much status quo neither will I make any targeted  comparisons to someones birth certificate.


How IS voting those bums out working for ya?

more change maybe?




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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 10:38:57 AM   
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your pure speculation is exempt from your contempt how?  Eliding the point won't help you here, for instance the paragraph starting ALL (don't clip the sentence to suit what you think you are saying) read it, and wherever you plagarized that from and keep parroting is incorrect.

don't use all, never most and things like that unless you have incontrovertable proof. (That is something you will never possess).

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 10:43:20 AM   
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alleged ron, that is a quote not my words.  there is a link you can click on to see that it is a quote.  you can make a click with your mouse.  sheesh! 

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 10:57:23 AM   
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no, fuck that, again, don't elide the point, the OP is exactly pure speculation and dreaming, there is no word alleged in the paragraph or the surrounding horseshit you typed, which even though it is a completely different subject and situation,  in that case the paragraph you typed starting 'ALL' is pure specualtion and dreaming, now; having said that, sure there is fraud perpetrated in the forclosure system, and there sits a florida court that found that the Mortagee (in this case JPM) committed fraud, which is 180 degrees from where you argued the OP, but still the same conclusions.......all plagarized, illocial and not following from the premise.........and one asks, so what is new here?  What exactly does the queen or the law of the sea think is going on here?

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 11:03:45 AM   
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not every court on the planet is 100% crooked 100% of the time one gimme here and there does not set a standard for shits sake.

The reason is that in those cases where the borrower is successful they managed to get the Judge to pause long enough to actually look at the documents being presented and to allow the borrower to inquire as to their authenticity and authority. If there is such an inquiry the borrower wins. If there is no such inquiry, the borrower loses.

This article perfectly supports both sides of the argument in the OP proportionately. 


So how is voting the bums out working for ya?

the OP is new, I dont know if this board has a news section otherwise there are tons of propaganda mills on tv if your main desire is news.






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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 11:04:46 AM   
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bout the same as your mindless drivel.  hows it working for ya?

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 11:15:50 AM   
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it has never worked for me that is why you dont see me engaging in the retarded leftee rightee circle jerk drivel and arguing how to best rearrange a long defunct by design monetary system designed for failure or at a minimum as a giant wealth sucker.

Slavery is illegal (but unconscionable contracts have to be challenged)

Hell your kids if you got any are already slaves to a system for the rest of their lives they arent even old enough to pronounce because people are arguing leftee rightee freebee rather than getting down to managing their own affairs as was intended.

Lots of fixing needs to be done and how has voting those bums out been working?   Its gets markedly worse every round!

Well unless you have a tazer fetish etc etc etc.....


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 11:24:47 AM   
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The simple truth is that realone is suffering from the idea that all government and court system above the county level is illegal.

The court case he uses in his sig line deals with a the sovereignty of individual NATIONS not an individual person. He seems to believe that it does apply to citizens, another misconception. The fact he posts things that do not hold up under scrutiny and then gets upset when it is discovered that there is no truth in his posts is nothing new.

He is nothing more than a troll and the sooner EVERYONE puts him on ignore the better the forums will be.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 1:10:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The simple truth is that realone is suffering from the idea that all government and court system above the county level is illegal.

The court case he uses in his sig line deals with a the sovereignty of individual NATIONS not an individual person. He seems to believe that it does apply to citizens, another misconception. The fact he posts things that do not hold up under scrutiny and then gets upset when it is discovered that there is no truth in his posts is nothing new.

He is nothing more than a troll and the sooner EVERYONE puts him on ignore the better the forums will be.




You are dreaming and your bloated imagination is running away with you again.

What you really mean is the better off you will be LOL

The simple truth is once again jlf1961 is oversimplifying to the extent of complete distortion of my position.

The court case I use applies in either case NATION or person.  There is only so many lines you can put in a footer, another fail.

Do you need to see the long version and all the citationns AGAIN showing that I am 100% correct?


Meantime I really want to know how VOTING THOSE DAMN BUMS OUT has worked for you?

All this leftee rightee bickering and thousands of keyboard hours and they vote the bums out over and over again and I want to know what is improving by VOTING THOSE DAMN BUMS OUT?

How does it feel to have no control over the courts you believe are over you, or their decisions?

Now maybe I am just a total simpleton but when a judge that works for a corporation has the final word it seems to me that its not by the people.  You elect john who appoints harry who assigns tim LOL

I suppose by some wild stretch we can call that by the people.

You do make a good point however that there should be next to zippo guv above the county and the only need for judges at the federal level is to work with local judges on commercial issues.  Oh wait everything is commercial LOL


Why not weigh in on the topic?   LOL

I want to know what is improving by VOTING THOSE DAMN BUMS OUT?









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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 7:19:50 PM   
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Here we go again.

Another party just sent to me a court order to reference his point.  Yes with a case number, no I wont pass it around until and if I get his permission.  Its from another pro-se defending himself in his own case.  They tossed him in jail and banned him from calling anyone but the public defender whom he refused and they are trying to FORCE him into their jurisdiction because in his filings he overtly created a fiduciary a relationship with the judge.   (public officers take an oath and that oath is a fiduciary relationship)  that aside just one more of a long line of nasty shit perpetrated by the judicial cartel.  They have construed him to owe a bill forced upon him by the gubmint. 

Another pending case a guy has them pinned down on jurisdiction and the prosecuting attorney admitted to him that he will never win because of all the people they would have to let out of jail if he did.

Its a stacked deck people and when you hire an attorney you never ever get to see this end of the judicial cartel because everything goes on behind the scenes and attorneys and judges wont rock their own boat and shake the money wagon.

It has gotten so bad that when people go in on their own and by virtue of learning law they have the moxy to enter their own pleadings hands down if they go up against the gubermint extortionists they get railroaded nearly every time so these fucktard barflies which includes all these counterfeit judges can continue to ride the money wagon.

The only time people get a reasonably fair shake if its 2 people in a personal beef between each other.  Otherwise people vs the machine people go down.

If people need cases to support the claim about the judiciary there are plenty popular ones out here especially regarding the irs.  Hell they even started using fake names now days on their paperwork.  Its a bad scene people!  If you did that you would be in jail!

This is nothing compared to what is on the horizon but thankfully because of many concerned people out here who now form legal groups are starting to fight back in such great numbers the courts are starting to turn around just a little bit.

I will keep you all posted on these cases dependent on the permissions they give me.


Suffice to say it seems that R1 has another hole in one as the only thing people have done so far is derail the thread.  Tough row to when both sides are guilty as sin and people cannot come up with even ONE good thing voting the bums out has accomplished.  say over the last 50 years!

NADA!



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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/29/2010 10:07:09 PM   
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First, gotta love it when you speak in third person.

Second, why debate something that never occured?

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/30/2010 6:41:05 AM   
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I have just found a way that each man woman and child living in the united states (illegal aliens too, doesn't matter) can recieve tax free $2 million dollars and here's the kicker kids, it REDUCES the government debt, thats right reduces it by the amount you take, now....you can do this once per year thru a widely known process that nobody pays attention to. What does this mean?  Everybody, including our government can live debt free. I have a complete set of instructions, provided me by a little naked froggie boy living in a palm tree in the Amazon,  but if I shared them with you, well;  I'd have to kill ya.

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 9/30/2010 11:03:38 PM   
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Hey Term wanna laugh yer ass off?

this sovereign will be rolling n livin high in a few years :)

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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010

Well,  went to court today for the 7th time on my driving on a suspended license and they were after me big time.  I revoked my license with the Cali DMV form 142, sued the local police who i assume got the local sheriffs dept to stalk me (neighbor told me they asked about me and what car I drove a day prior to my arrest).  Came home late and after pulling into my driveway a sheriff rolls up and gets out of the car and tells me I am JOHN DOE and I am driving on a suspended lic., I tell him I revoked my license and I have a right to travel.  He asks me for I.D. and I tell him I don't have any state issued I.D. He asks me to tell him my name, I take the 5th and decline to which he states "youre under arrest".  What's the charge?  "failure to identify yourself".  In the car to booking I ask him for his name he refuses because I wouldn't give him my name, I ask him to give me the legal definition of "motor vehicle" he can't.  I refuse in booking to give my name, to have my prints taken (they threaten my so I state I will under threat and duress) and demand to see a magistrate, they refuse.  They hold me 9 hours in booking and put in the psych ward, my cell # won't allow any outside phone calls (they are screwing with me), they wouldn't release me without paying $2500 bail so I stay in for 3 days before going up to see the judge.  I read off my opening statement challenging jurisdiction, lawful oath and bond, no real party of interest, i'm the authorized representative of the defendant, revoke any contracts or power of atty to speak on my behalf, i'm one of the people, in a court of record and complain of the sheriff's dept, and court of trespassing on my rights.  The judge fails to rebut.  She asks for plea, I state without proving jurisdiction and answering the accusations I don't have enough info to plead, she pleads not guilty and set's trial.  She orders me to remain in custody for a psych evaluation.
I bail out as 'authorized rep', I sign faretta as authorized rep and redact "defendant" below signature and state i don't understand the points in form.  I file Conditional acceptance of charges exparte to DA and they default, I file default/estoppel against DA, judge moves forward any way having DA answer challenge to jurisdiction.  Judge orders me to see shrink, I refuse, send her a conditional acceptance upon proof of claim that she show points and authorities supporting jurisdiction.  She defaults, so I enter default/estoppel into the record (file stamped).  She orders this time with a signed minutes that I see the shrink, I refuse and write a "writ of error" stating she has no jurisdiction and according to penal code she has to state in court the reason she believes I am 'mentally disordered'(which she has not).  I show up, DA is demanding that I go to jail for contempt of court, judge tells her to shut up and that she finds me mentally competent.  I file a   Notice of default on my counterclaim (in my counterclaim-file stamped-I sued the Sheriff, Sheriff's deputy, judge, gov Shwarzennegger, George Valverde (DMV), Dale Bonner (DMV), the court, the DMV all for $100,000 each living soul and $1,000,000 for each corporation). I sent out the suit proof of service, certified mail and no one 'answered' to I got my default file stamped.  The judge threw out my default, I objected (I object to everything).  I entered a Writ of Quo Warranto (showed defective certified copies of their oath's of office) demanded lawful bonds, form 700, evidence they are operating a 'court of record'(required under the Cali Contitution), they are paid in gold or silver as required in the U.S. constitution.  I entered a Writ of Prohibition declaring the inferior court was operating with no jurisdiction and had to cease and desist.  I entered a Notice and demand they dismiss re: Speedy trial (U.S. constitution declares speedy trial starts at arrest).  Came to court today ready to demand the the judicial officer representing the State of California give me her name (she can't cause she isn't a judicial officer of the State) and after 3 times I would state "let the record show there is no lawful judicial present in court" but before I could the DA stated "we are dismissing this case in the interest of justice".  Cool.  There are 3 reasons which I feel prompted this: 1. the DA who is retiring in 3 months would lose his pension and benefits if I prove in court he has no right to be in the office (no lawful oath or bond), 2. The Attorney General Jerry Brown I supeonad to testify to the constitutionality of the Vehicle code and lawful enactment of same told the DA to drop it, 3. The judicial performance complaint i sent in showing the judge had been sued by me and refused to recuse herself (I put in recusal in writing)and removed evidence out of the record (she ordered her default on owing me $100,000) not filed (I got my copy file stamped however) a violation of penal code 135 (misdemeanor).  Anyway, after a summer of misery and battle I slayed the dragon.  Thought people might get some hope that if you stand firm and 'bring it' they actually do obey the law even tho they are satanic pirates.  Love is the highest power. I pray to god to speak thru me and hope the people suffering benefit from my sacrifice.




coming to a theater to near you soon!

What I want to know is hows those tax payer dollas workin for ya over a friggin 100 buck ticket?   What about after these criminal and civil suits hit the fan? 

Wanna bench sitters taxes are gonna get a lot higher!   LMFAO

Oh and they aint seen the 1/2 of it! LOL

Trezavant v City of Tampa $1,086.96 per minute for the time you were in the slammer.

My response was to add kidnapping to the list against the sheriff for failure of a public official to identify themself.


the courts are fucking bogus!  None of them have jurisdiction if you are one of the people!   I would be surprised if anyone reading this is lawfully one of the people.  LOL  finger that one out! ha!

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 10/1/2010 6:23:00 AM   
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Just a little snip from this grand swipe of asswipe:
they are paid in gold or silver as required in the U.S. constitution. 

This new and entire fantasy is more unsubstantiated horseshit that didnt happen.  Hows that workin out for ya?

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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 10/1/2010 6:51:50 AM   
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its in the constitution last time I checked


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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 10/1/2010 6:52:49 AM   
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You are not looking at the United States Constitution.

Show me the entire article in question.



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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 10/1/2010 6:56:16 AM   
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your google broke?



Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.


btw he really kicked ass in court didnt he!  

You will never get an attorney to expose their little trillion dollar per year road nazi racket.





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RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! - 10/1/2010 6:59:47 AM   
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Yup.  I understand no state shall do that.  That is a right solely reserved for the federal government so there is a common national currency.  That's sorta why they stuck that word state in there.

The asswipe you are pitching isn't googleable, because it isn't in the constitution.

And nobody kicked nobodies ass, it is a fairytale.

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