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RE: Condemned to Prison - 10/5/2010 12:59:54 PM

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Oh yeah. Typical. DWI can blow apart many worlds. On the street with less than an ounce and that person deserves more jail time. lol

Guess its easy to ignore the child taped to a wall by two adults who were, just by chance, high.

And when was the last time posession of less than an ounce got jail time.

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RE: Condemned to Prison - 10/5/2010 1:11:10 PM

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And when was the last time posession of less than an ounce got jail time.

In most jurisdictions anymore possession of less than an once of pot is a misdemeanor citation, usually written on the same form as a "traffic ticket"

We waste hundreds of billions of dollars housing NON-VIOLENT, offenders guilty only of possession. This nation should have declared victory on the "drug war" the moment Nancy did her "Just say no" stupidity. The money saved could have been spent fighting the damned cartels, but noooooooooooo we have to be all "moral" about drug use. If the fucking liquor companies were not afraid of losing sales, this shit would be over with by now.

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RE: Condemned to Prison - 10/5/2010 1:37:15 PM

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Well in the actual world some bad things happen. Not only do we need our current facilities but we need more bed capacity.

It is helpful to read the victim impact statement. This is where the victim writes a statement of how they were harmed by the crime.

Locally we send our share of bad boys to the slammer... and they belong there.

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RE: Condemned to Prison - 10/5/2010 3:23:32 PM

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Wow. I had no idea so many people were so willing to deny the essential humanity of others.

There. I said it. Prisoners are human beings. I do not want my tax dollars paying for state sanctioned rape of prisoners by other prisoners or by prison guards (serious problem at women's facilities). And anyone who believes another human being deserves to be raped is sadly vengeful and hateful.

Our prison system is in bad need of reform. We have the highest prison population in the world, and yet, we still have crime! How is our self righteous outrage at keeping the riff raff in jail solving that? It ISN'T. And what of the solution to lock them all up for all time? Completely impractical, unless we'd like a prison in every town. Prepared to have all those big, bad criminals in your back yard?

BTW, many in the prison population are there on drug charges. Simple solution: legalize drugs in this country. We already consume the vast majority of them, anyway. Other solutions also exist, but it sounds like everyone here would just prefer to throw away the key.

Ding, ding, ding!!

I disagree with legalizing drugs, but denying prisoners their humanity by apathy gives no incentive for improvement.

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RE: Condemned to Prison - 10/5/2010 3:33:28 PM

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.......A voice of sanity. Thank you. Who goes to jail? Poor minority people go to jail. I get caught with drugs in a routine stop and I got jail. Most of the rest of you and your families get probation for the same offense. Why does the person that is high and carrying a bit get put in jail and the DWI doesn't?

We pick and choose our criminals in the US. The head of Lehman Brothers lied and stole from others. Does he do time? If you have money you stay out of prison. Thats the facts of life no matter the offense. Once it is an even playing field then you can start talking why criminals are criminals.

The playing field is not even. I don't have a problem with someone convicted of commiting a crime going to jail, but there is a double standard. I think the biggest factor in jail vs no jail is money.

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