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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer
Peon, so far, what percentage of people writing to me have so much as mentioned the vanilla hobby of interest that I spend pretty much the entire profile focusing on as the main reason I'm here on the site, and the main thing I very clearly stated that I'm looking for in the lifestyle?

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
Almost every single person that's an adult knows that Sam's idea of what courtesy is..is well accepted. We're not some totally different group of human beings.
I say that most people know Sam is correct and act accordingly online as they do offline when it comes to manners. I can't prove this but I pretty damn sure I'm right.

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ORIGINAL: lizi
Saying that "it's the dicates of any reasonable guy" isn't really referencing the entire male population. The reasonable guy category is only a portion of men. Thinking that because you yourself and the men you know are reasonable, therefore the rest of  men must be reasonable as well, is infuriatingly narrow minded.  Not everything is based upon what you know in your own experiences Samboct, how egocentric to think so.
Trying to say that the second-hand rudeness of being silent to an email is equal to  first-handedly experiencing an actively rude message is crap.

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ORIGINAL: samboct
Really- is that how you're looking at me when you say it's ok to not respond to a polite email? Because from my perspective, it doesn't come across that way. I'm in agreement with Icarys here- there are two sets of rules being used and that's a problem long term.

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
Almost every single person that's an adult knows that Sam's idea of what courtesy is..is well accepted. We're not some totally different group of human beings.
I say that most people know Sam is correct and act accordingly online as they do offline when it comes to manners. I can't prove this but I pretty damn sure I'm right.

Unfortunately, you're so dead wrong it's not even amusing. Courtesy is *not* common. It's the exception, not the rule. While humanity at large may understand the definition, the application is beyond most. See lizi's quote below.

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ORIGINAL: lizi
One more thing...the quote referenced above speaks of bikers...do you actually know any Samboct? If you don't frequent the biker bars then how do you know that there is macho posturing and fighting? Replace the word biker in the above quote with any other racial group or subset of the human race and it's equally offensive. Stereotyping never helps your cause, just sayin...
Many of the women here would do well to meet a biker, they're not the bottom of the barrel by any means. I've rarely met a group of men who are more gallant, helpful, honest and polite, and they are more than ready and willing to help out in any situation where they are needed. I am not a biker chick although I ride. I know plenty of bikers both male and female, from widely recognized clubs to weekend riders - your generalization left a bad taste in my mouth and is way off the mark. 

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ORIGINAL: samboct
Given who I am, and who my friends are-we don't frequent biker bars. Don't like the amount of drinking, the amount of macho posturing, fighting etc. I'm also not really interested in biker chicks- because the kind of woman that would like that kind of a guy- well she's not going to like me- and I'm probably not going to be too crazy about her- we have different values.

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Just where do you get off making a generalization like this Sam? Talk about RUDE!!

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
Actually you have sided with me to a degree...It is well accepted..You say may understand..same thing.
So what's your point...That most people are in fact rude? Yep that would be it and I agree.
As for what Sam did..I think you should practice what you preach. I believe he was just pointing that out...It burns like hell doesn't it.

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ORIGINAL: Icarys
Maybe he knows bikers? Maybe he's been to a bar a few times and they were the ones starting shit..Just saying.

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Your passive-aggression is amusing

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Also, use "you're" instead of "your". The first is a contraction of "you" and "are". The second is indicative of possession. Learn the difference.

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I'll be waiting to see the results of a test that someone has done alongside the one LNT has started. Maybe I'll say goodnight till then.

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Seems to me that a lot of people on this thread are attempting to redefine rude/polite behavior, when it's something we learn about in kindergarten or earlier.

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ORIGINAL: odysseyIndeed

He must be getting some sort of response because someone else posted that exact email in a thread that I read a week or two ago. I remember specifically because they were laughing when he asked "is that what u want?" i just can't imagine pasting that to just anyone new they see if they never get a nibble .. but maybe?

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...Likening this to rape now are we? It's probably best that we aren't friends because I think your probably one that's prone to over reacting...

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Nope- it's a free country- there's free speech, and he's just been rude. My sense in watching this little scenario- She got what she deserves.

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I think it has at least a little to do with the particular people that are getting the bad emails as well. I mean if they are the same snarky self's in emails as they are on this forum..Well it's no wonder they are getting shitty responses back. They are probably being shitty to start with.

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What I was talking about was an all around shitty attitude that may be spilling over into emails when pursued by a "potential mate". Someone that may have a chip on their shoulder usually isn't aware of it and how they might be perceived by the mailer.

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I would think it's very possible that some of those that are getting a crapload of bad emails may be seen as nasty by a wide majority of those mailers

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I personally think the majority of it is over dramatization of what really happened.

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I suggest if things are that bad...Just give up. I suspect though your being a drama queen

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ORIGINAL: samboct
From the last time I was in a biker bar- not long ago. I was on a business dinner prior and was dressed in a suit and tie. I was meeting some other guys from a company who liked the bar, but commented that we had to clear out when the bikers began showing up. We were not welcome- that became rather clear.
Do you really want to debate that certain establishments are riskier to hang out in than others?
Seems to me that a lot of people on this thread are attempting to redefine rude/polite behavior....

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

Feel free to peruse my profile and tell me exactly what I said in it that prompted some dude to send a cmail out of the blue saying that I have the body of an out of shape 50 year old and a face like 10 miles of bad road. I'd really love to know.