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How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 12:59:50 PM   
NewFamilyGuy


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Status: offline 		My name is John and I have been using CM for a few months now, and have had some good and positive results here. My question is, how can I find a real female slave to acquire? I have had some great conversations with women on here and do feel many are serious and genuine. I read many profiles from women who seem to really desire finding a man to give themselves to as slaves in a very real sense, which I do really appreciate about this site. Unfortunately, submissive women on here recieve thousands of emails a day from men wanting them, so they choose and select whatever interests them. While men must do all the searching, and if they're lucky, they may get an occassional women to correspond with them briefly. It leaves me wondering why a man can't just pick a slave he desires and take her home. I am older at 53, which tends to limit most younger women desiring someone closer to their age, which makes this seem more like a typical dating site. Women are simply selecting men they choose to be in a relationship with. But that all lacks the concept of real slavery to me. If a man desires to own a woman as property and use her as his slave, where does he find such a woman. I have talked with some people on here that suggest there are organizations or something that really buy and sell women. where are these people? Is there a place to really find women who are really for sell. I realize all of that is illegal, and thus not really out in the open, but there must be some way to find a woman to really own. Some profiles on here seem real close to saying that is what they desire, but yet, how do you really get her to come be your slave. You end up emailing and chatting and then if she really likes you and what you have to offer her, then she might visit. It still seems so much like a woman selecting a man she is interested in dating and a relationship. If anything like what some of these profiles suggest were remotely real, a man simply should be able to select the slave he wants and take her. It seems the ideas are here and real enough, but the reality of it seems difficult to actually attain. Please any advice or suggestions are welcome.
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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 1:12:15 PM   
DarkSteven


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Status: offline 		Your profile states clearly that you want a second family. You offer the opportunity for a family-minded woman to have s family, and you mention that you can provide a living space for an unemployed woman. Then you casually mention that you think having multiple slaves might be cool, and you have a pic from a porn site for your main pic.

Dude, what is the reason that you want a slave? Nowhere in your profile do you mention your qualifications for having complete, life-or-death, 24/7 control of another human being. Nor does it show experience in even being s Dom.

Edited to add: and those places that sell slaves are all acams.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 1:18:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am going to hope that this doesn't turn into a flame toss thread as it would be nice to welcome people and leave the flaming to other places if needed.

You are an adult and know well that it is unlawful to sell people and you cannot just pick up a slave anywhere. The places you are talking about are scams.

It is a fantasy for the most part, that one can just pick out a slave and go to it. There might be some people out there doing that, but you would only know if someone is willing to do that by reading profiles or them contacting you.

Most slaves will actually pick their dominant and that is just the way it goes. It is unrealistic to think of it any other way. Once they have selected the dominant they feel suits them and they can willingly turn over their lives over to them, the dominant would be in charge. You just cannot expect to pick them up just anywhere and they have no choices.

If your post is for real... I am answering as I am. If you are just trying to stir things up... I hope this goes well. Personally I would love if we could welcome people rather than jump on any thing we see and slam dunk them. Some don't deserve it.


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 1:27:53 PM   
DarkSteven


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Status: offline 		OP, my girlfriend Lockit has a point. My apologies if I came on too hard.

What I should have said is that a slavegirl will respond to someone who they could feel comfortable and safe yielding to. Your profile doesn't focus on those qualities within you.

I suggest that you get involved with your local groups and see how actual Masters and slaves live.

Edited to add: it's not very common for a relationship to start as Master/slave. I suggest you fond a submissive and then transition her to being a slave later if it seems like a good idea then.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 1:35:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Someone is going to offer to sell you a slave... that is pretty much a given with your post.
IF you choose to send the money to them, you will likely never see the slave or your money again.

My honest response is what is wrong with having the trust of a woman be earned and then showing you are worthy of being her master?

What is wrong with the process of teaching her how to serve you specifically and not be served by an automaton?

What is wrong with having a slave whose devotion you have inspired from within her?

Perhaps because I came to be a slave to my Master through hard work and a desire to prove myself worthy to Him specific, I miss the appeal of the idea of a generic master or a generic slave.

I serve Him.
For me it is the context that makes the service special.




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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 1:37:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Steven dear, lol, I was responding to the op and hadn't even seen your post until now.

I must say though... if it takes that little to get you to listen up... we shall have so much fun! hehe

You're other gf...


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 1:38:16 PM   
tiggerspoohbear


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Status: offline 		Welcome to the boards. No flaming, but you do realize that any woman you want as a slave is going to be the one who puts all her trust in you? That's why most subs/slaves choose their Doms/Masters. Or a well written message sent to someone you think you connect with may get things started in the proper order.

As for the buying and selling of slaves? Not legal. It happens, but that doesn't mean it's right, it's not. So realize that you will have to slog through the profiles like the rest of the men and women here do. And google munches or events in your area. Get out there and meet people who really do wiitwd so that you may educate yourself further. Real life, it beats the internet, although it's not impossible to find your one on here. Just not probable.

There, good advice, no snark, forget the porn and get out there to meet real life people who know what they're doing and how to go about it. You might just make some new friends and connections.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 1:45:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I echo what the previous posters have said.

I'm looking for a dominant or Master - and if I'm being honest, even if I were young enough for your needs I would pass your profile by. It tells me nothing about you other than you have kids, you're ex-military and you want more kids.

There is NOTHING in your profile that makes me think that you want ME rather than some generic "slave-by-numbers". You may want the ideal of a slave who will take any man as long as he claims to be a Master. In your mind, that is a good thing. In the real world, it's going to be nigh on impossible to find.

Why? Because most women will want a man they can connect with. Someone to look up to, respect and maybe even love. You don't seem to be offering that.

Just my

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 1:59:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I always believe a profile says a lot about a person. If someone leaves the most impotant elements out- YOURSELF...they are likely not being real. BTW slavery is illegal...anyone who wishes to be a slave...will choose you...or you would not be here but in some underground place seeking someone who is human trafficking...which is illegal as well. Anyway, good luck.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 10:14:11 PM   
NewFamilyGuy


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Status: offline 		Thank all of you and I do appreciate your insights. I suppose it just seems that women do all the choosing and there are thousands of men barking up all of the same few tress. Women on here must feel super empowered to be able to choose from all the harassing emails to pick men they might even consider talking to. It just seems a bit  one sided. I agree about my profile as I only sat to write what I felt. I suppose I failed to see this as a major marketing campaign to win the attention of women with such stacked odds against me. Perhaps I should find a wise and experienced slave to consult with on how to construct my profile to be more effective...somewhat like constructing a resume to win that all important career position. Afterall, I suppose acquiring a slave you desre to own forever is no less life significant. If any readers would desire to offer such services, I would appreciate such guidance. Niavely, however, I thought writing a profile was to state what I was seeking. When I read profiles on here of women seeking Masters and owners, I read what they wrote and feel so many desire exactly what I do.

While I have your attention on the matter, may I ask a few other questions for guidance? I have certainly been on here long enough to spot the scammers and they appear quite obvious and I would never send money to anyone. It was not at all those I referenced about buying a slave. Although it is illegal, I have heard of more illegal trafiking aspects and think there are some women coming through such organizations from other countries or whatever, and it was that I had in mind. I would not really go that route and such does seem a bit frightening to even consider. My point was actually an absurdity to comment on the unlevel playing field it seems women have in this medium and how they can seemingly choose any man they desire while men seem to have to compete and win such attention. Yet, I sense there are so many real women who desire to find a man to really give themselves to. I believe it is an American cultural thing where American women seem to have all the power and control of who they would relent to go out with. Is there no way for men to achieve more dominence in selecting what women they will take? Perhaps I am not the greatest prize for a slave to win, but isn't it the Master/Dom who should have say in what slave he acquires as opposed to sending out thousands of emails to women hoping to attract one or two that may be interested in him.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/5/2010 11:00:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Im curious... and welcome btw.

Why do you say you feel a man should have the ability to pick and chose what woman he wants, yet seem to dr\ecry the woman of having the same ability? Do you really want a woman who will meekly kneel to just any man, waiting and panting to be chosen regardless of who is doing the choosing?

Is such a woman truly a slave to that man, or a slave to all men?

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 2:10:22 AM   
DarkSteven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: NewFamilyGuy

I suppose it just seems that women do all the choosing and there are thousands of men barking up all of the same few tress. Women on here must feel super empowered to be able to choose from all the harassing emails to pick men they might even consider talking to. It just seems a bit  one sided.


Not exactly.  Speak to them.  They get loads of cock shots and crude come-ons, and it doesn't make them feel "empowered" in the least.
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I agree about my profile as I only sat to write what I felt. I suppose I failed to see this as a major marketing campaign to win the attention of women with such stacked odds against me. Perhaps I should find a wise and experienced slave to consult with on how to construct my profile to be more effective..


You're missing the point. It's not just a case of PR and marketing.  I honestly think that you do not fully understand what a slave is, and don't know why you'd want to have one.  It's not easy going through her entire wardrobe and telling her which clothes to keep and which ones to get rid of, or just how you want her to serve tea.  Owning a slave is a lot of effort, especially for the first few months when you're training her to do as you wish.

It's not just that your profile will not attract a slave.  It's that you aren't Master enough for one.  You're clearly very new to all this, and don't have the experience that a slave would want to see, or the micromanaging style to keep her happy.  But the good news is that I don't think that you really want a slave, either.  I suspect that a submissive would suit your needs just fine.

At this point, I think that a profile rewrite should include what you want out of a woman.  Not just as a marketing ploy, but so you yourself can clarify it in your mind.  I'll make it easy - you can have her for:

Sex
Play such as spanking, nipple play, wax play, etc.
Bondage
Domestic service (housework)
Personal service (making and serving tea, preparing your clothes for you, etc.)
Being a stay at home mother to children
Working and providing income
Someone for you to guide and develop
A "date" to go to events to as a couple
Handyman work around the house (yeah, I know, but it's nice to dream)

There may be others, but I think the above covers most things.

You can't get everything on the list, but it'll give you a good starting point.  Answering that will force you to determine what you REALLY want, and it'll also communicate to any prospectives what you need better than your current profile does.

Happy hunting!

Edited to add: also, I'd change your username.  Through no fault of yours, "Family Guy" refers to a silly cartoon and your name makes me think of that.  How about "FamilyMan"?

Edited again to add: And while I previously recommended that you get involved with your local groups, I'll invite you to first peruse the Ask a Master, Ask a Mistress, and Ask a Submissive forums here.  Read and learn and get an idea of what the lifestyle is about, online and conveniently, from those who live it.


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 3:18:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NewFamilyGuy
women seem to have all the power and control of who they would relent to go out with. Is there no way for men to achieve more dominence in selecting what women they will take?


That's the way it should be. Women are ultimately the superior sex and all men should be (and are) subservient to them. If a female is to play a 'slave' to a man it's only because it gives her pleasure to do so, and the 'owner' is essentially used to please her.

Seriously though, you have to realise how much of what people desire is actually a fantasy which no one would really want to happen in real life, though admitting that spoils the fantasy a bit. I am sure you don't really believe any human being should be sold against their will. Yet posting this thread and fantasising that it 'could' be real gives you pleasure, which is all very nice as no one is really getting harmed in any way. But bear that in mind when you are 'hunting' for a slave; that you are really looking for someone who would be willing to 'pretend' that you own her.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 3:56:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Welcome John, i thought your name might be Peter. Can't give you an explanation on your search, but most women i know like a take-charge guy, when you take charge subtly. I'm afraid finding a girl who wants to put herself at your disposal won't be easy, such a woman may well be stupid to put herself in such a situation.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 6:57:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: softslavetoy

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ORIGINAL: NewFamilyGuy
women seem to have all the power and control of who they would relent to go out with. Is there no way for men to achieve more dominence in selecting what women they will take?


That's the way it should be. Women are ultimately the superior sex and all men should be (and are) subservient to them. If a female is to play a 'slave' to a man it's only because it gives her pleasure to do so, and the 'owner' is essentially used to please her.

Seriously though, you have to realise how much of what people desire is actually a fantasy which no one would really want to happen in real life, though admitting that spoils the fantasy a bit. I am sure you don't really believe any human being should be sold against their will. Yet posting this thread and fantasising that it 'could' be real gives you pleasure, which is all very nice as no one is really getting harmed in any way. But bear that in mind when you are 'hunting' for a slave; that you are really looking for someone who would be willing to 'pretend' that you own her.


You're a new poster, so welcome.  That said, if you think that women can only own and not be owned, you need to get out more.  From what I've seen, maledom relationships are much more common that femdom.  And they're not pretending it, either.


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 7:00:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		oooooooooo just nm it's not worth my time or effort to explain to the OP or softslavetoy that all relationships are based in reality and both parties have to agree. 

'Nuff said before I get into trouble.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 7:10:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

oooooooooo just nm it's not worth my time or effort to explain to the OP or softslavetoy that all relationships are based in reality and both parties have to agree. 



TPB, break things off with your current Dom and get yourself over to Colorado.  There we can discuss your silly notions about consent and reality. 


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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 7:27:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Steven,  I'm not the one out of touch with consent and reality.  Nuh uh!!!

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 7:50:01 AM   
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I suppose I failed to see this as a major marketing campaign to win the attention of women with such stacked odds against me.
Yeah, God forbid you should have to put any effort in. You should just be able to catalog order a woman that will blindly follow any man that proclaims himself a "D" type. 

You seem to be missing the point that a D/s relationship is still a relationship, it takes both sides making an effort to be successful. Both have needs and desires. Your method seems to think that none of that is important, just as long as you get your dick sucked.

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RE: How to acquire a real female slave - 10/6/2010 8:01:55 AM   
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My point was actually an absurdity to comment on the unlevel playing field it seems women have in this medium and how they can seemingly choose any man they desire while men seem to have to compete and win such attention.


This is nothing new nor is it American. Men have competed for the right to have the best woman for centuries. The competitions took various formats, the women have had varying degrees of say in it but this is - quite simply - nothing new.

In this situation though... I truly believe you are looking at it the wrong way. You are not actually competing with anyone. You are looking for the woman who is a fit for you and you for her. A woman who says "No thanks" is not doing it because she found someone better but because she doesn't feel that click, she doesn't feel submissive towards you or your desires for a power dynamic aren't in line.

Now, for me... I would pass you by simply because you are willing to consider buying a woman from illegal trafficing rings. Those women did not consent, have no say and are ripped from their families. I could not stomach submitting to the sort of man who would be a part of that. For Valyraen and I, if they didn't come willingly, if they don't stay willingly, it's not submission and there is nothing about it worth keeping.

There are many who believe that once they give themselves, they must abide by the master's moral compass instead of their own. Regardless of if I hold with that or not, what you consider to be acceptable morally is going to impact how many women are interested in being yours. So you may want to look to yourself first as to why women are declining to be owned by you.

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