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Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct vot... - 10/6/2010 10:09:10 AM

SuzanneKneeling

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I thought this was satire when I first read about it, but apparently it's for real. Joe Miller, the GOP's teabagging senate candidate in Alaska, wants to REPEAL the 17th Amendment. This is the one that gives you the right to directly vote for your Senator. He and many other tea partiers think we should go back cigar-smoking fatcats in back rooms of state legislatures choosing the Senate. This is the supposedly "populist" tea party at work. Oh no, they're not an astroturf corporate stooge movement. Not at all. They's just downhome folks that just want to take away your right to vote and give it to the big money interests.

http://newsminer.com/bookmark/9780231-U-S-Senate-candidate-Joe-Miller-s-support-for-repealing-17th-Amendment-draws-criticism

So how about it, tea partiers? Is there any part of our society you DON'T want to revert to how it was in the 1800s? Is there any aspect of the 21st century you're sort of okay with? What's next, repealing women's suffrage (19th Amendment)? Is slavery back on the table maybe? We already know you aren't comfortable with the 14th Amendment.

We have an economic downturn and you want to use it to dismantle our democracy entirely? What's up with this random rampage of destruction you're on?

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 10:14:04 AM

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What's next, repealing women's suffrage (19th Amendment)?

Based on this board that would probably be a good idea.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 10:20:00 AM

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you a tranny wilbur?

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 10:21:21 AM

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Aw. Sounds like someone would be more at home in Afghanistan or one of the other less progressive Islamic countries. Western freedoms really don't suit you folks very well it seems.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 11:03:16 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SuzanneKneeling

I thought this was satire when I first read about it, but apparently it's for real. Joe Miller, the GOP's teabagging senate candidate in Alaska, wants to REPEAL the 17th Amendment. This is the one that gives you the right to directly vote for your Senator. He and many other tea partiers think we should go back cigar-smoking fatcats in back rooms of state legislatures choosing the Senate. This is the supposedly "populist" tea party at work. Oh no, they're not an astroturf corporate stooge movement. Not at all. They's just downhome folks that just want to take away your right to vote and give it to the big money interests.

http://newsminer.com/bookmark/9780231-U-S-Senate-candidate-Joe-Miller-s-support-for-repealing-17th-Amendment-draws-criticism

So how about it, tea partiers? Is there any part of our society you DON'T want to revert to how it was in the 1800s? Is there any aspect of the 21st century you're sort of okay with? What's next, repealing women's suffrage (19th Amendment)? Is slavery back on the table maybe? We already know you aren't comfortable with the 14th Amendment.

We have an economic downturn and you want to use it to dismantle our democracy entirely? What's up with this random rampage of destruction you're on?

Why do you hate the constitution? We're not a democracy, we're a republic...And the only nutbags out there or Democrats.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 11:13:56 AM

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I don't hate the Constitution, Joe Miller does. He's the one who wants to change it. As it currently exists, we the people vote for our Senators. He wants to change that. Is there some part of the story that was especially confusing for you?

The Constitution allows for amendments as times change. That's what happened in 1913. Miller and the teahadists want to go back and undo that (and who knows what else). If we went back to the way the Founders started, we would have slavery. And only property-owning white men would vote - and even then they couldn't vote for president or their senators. Do you really want to go back to 1789? Be careful what you wish for.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 11:24:29 AM

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This is part of the long term strategy of both the RR and the corporatists. Less attention is paid to state legislature elections and the far right has been very successful getting to positions of power in state houses across the country but have had almost no success running for statewide elective offices or even for US House seats. So if they can't win at the ballot box they'll rewrite the rules to select Senators in a manner in which they think they can win.

If nothing else shows the authoritarian nature of those involed in leadership of the tea parties this certainly does.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 11:26:54 AM

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It might be a good idea.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 11:44:14 AM

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If nothing else shows the authoritarian nature of those involed in leadership of the tea parties this certainly does.

The sad this is how easily they've fooled many people into thinking they are "populist" candidates. I guess when you've got a whole "news" network working for you as you bankroll the campaigns you are "reporting" on, you can confuse a lot of people.

Things do not look good for our country with these people gaining power.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 11:56:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: SuzanneKneeling

Aw. Sounds like someone would be more at home in Afghanistan or one of the other less progressive Islamic countries. Western freedoms really don't suit you folks very well it seems.

I just believe that freedom, including the right to vote, involves a responsibility to actually think about your vote. Too many here are incapable of that.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 1:45:34 PM

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So what makes them capable of the choice Wilbur? Voting the way you wish?

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:00:01 PM

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So what makes them capable of the choice Wilbur? Voting the way you wish?

The ability to think logically, rarely demonstrated here.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:01:45 PM

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So what makes them capable of the choice Wilbur? Voting the way you wish?

The ability to think logically, rarely demonstrated here.

This coming from a guy who can't do simple multiplication.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:05:05 PM

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Logically=think about the money, only themoney

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:11:48 PM

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Logically=think about the money, only themoney

More evidence of your inability to think logically

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:14:16 PM

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tell us about the laffer curve again, wilb.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:18:56 PM

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I saw a funny bumper sticker yesterday afternoon on a car that was in front of me....

"Tea parties are for little girls with imaginary friends"

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:24:57 PM

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Logically=think about the money, only themoney

More evidence of your inability to think logically

Just because I can doesnt mean I like to, except when you get all emotional and pissy, SNORT
You arent living on vulcan, emotions are a particularly human effect, hard wired and not going away just because logic says they shouldnt count.
You cannot handle emotion, thats your issue not mine
Ive run a business for ten years, I am logical enough thankyou.
I happen to like my life the way it is, money is not the be all and end all of happiness.
I actually pity you
in a sad pathetic flaccid kind of way

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:34:21 PM

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Why do you hate the constitution? We're not a democracy, we're a republic...And the only nutbags out there or Democrats.

I'm pretty sure the 17th Amendment to the Constitution is part of the Constitution.

But I'll double-check that for you and let you know.

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RE: Nutbag teahadist Joe Miller wants to abolish direct... - 10/6/2010 2:37:48 PM

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Aw. Sounds like someone would be more at home in Afghanistan or one of the other less progressive Islamic countries. Western freedoms really don't suit you folks very well it seems.

I just believe that freedom, including the right to vote, involves a responsibility to actually think about your vote. Too many here are incapable of that.

Too many here are so arrogant that they believe those who do not share their political views are irresponsible.

< Message edited by rulemylife -- 10/6/2010 2:42:06 PM >

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