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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

To increase the amount of bullshit you spew to astronomical levels does nothing to fix its fundamental flaw of whole incorrectness.

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ORIGINAL: Slavehandsome

Was the Nazi government in Germany legitimate? Was Mao's government in China legitimate? Was Stalin's government in the Soviet Union legitimate? Was Saddam Hussein's government in Iraq legitimate? Was Castro's government in Cuba legitimate?

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

I'm surprised that Homeland Security didn't take an interest in that (or, come to that Chuck Norris' talk of "terrorist cells"):

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I can only imagine the result if some loudmouthed lefties had demanded that the Florida election in 2000 wasn't legitimate and that the chimp should stand down or be deposed by force. They'd have been in Gitmo before they could blink, wouldn't they?

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ORIGINAL: submaleinzona


Well, maybe not Gitmo, but I would imagine they would probably keep watch lists on both the extreme left and the extreme right.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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ORIGINAL: submaleinzona


Well, maybe not Gitmo, but I would imagine they would probably keep watch lists on both the extreme left and the extreme right.

As of the last time I checked which was a couple of weeks ago, two left wing eco groups are on the "Domestic Terrorist Groups" watch list.

And I posted this how many times over the years and you are surprised?  Thats seruois johnny come lately man! This has been out for how many years?  Oh wait main stream media did not carry it and only the conspiracy sites had the skinny so it had to be bullshit right?

Listed on the list are a number of ultra conservative militia groups and anti abortion groups (groups that have advocated violence against abortion doctors and clinics,) white supremacy groups, African American Groups, the American Indian Movement (no longer militant uses the political and justice systems to get their point across,) and two other native American groups that are also political in nature.

Even under the Bush Administration the FBI and Justice departments were more interested in Sovereign Citizen groups and militia groups.

To be honest it would seem that the criteria for being on the list is protesting against the government or advocating anti government views or philosophies.

It was Bush sr.'s Justice Department that went after the Weavers at Ruby Ridge, although it was the Clinton Justice Department that finally prosecuted the case using the evidence gathered under the Bush Administration.

and weaver was awarded what over 2 million was it in damages?

Strangely enough, it is not the right wing militia groups that are known for violence, and at most have been investigated for weapons violations.

The major thrust of FBI investigations have been the Sovereign Citizen movement

Many of whom are the well studied and highly educated and when they want to do their sovereign thing with full rights continue to be forced at end of the barrel of a government gun to accept "SERVICES" provided by the government they do not want!

The american dream!

for various activities that include fraud,
yeh like ROBO-SIGNING
hot checks,
yeh like those copied securities sold to china
money laundering,
like the cities double dipping?
tax fraud,
double dipping again
fraudulent bank notes,
banks with fake names and notaries
murder and assault on police officers.
foster oneil kennedy several 911 unhandy witnesses