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UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 1:52:17 PM   
hertz


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Status: offline 		Here's my understanding of it...

The UK Government is going to spend a shed-load of money on two aircraft carriers, but (wait for it) there isn't enough money to put any actual aircraft on the carriers. Apparently, the aircraft will be arriving a decade later, so not a complete waste, then. I understand that when the second of the two aircraft carriers has been built, the first one will be mothballed. No-one has said it's because we can't afford to run two, but it would be forgiveable to think such a thing.

The UK government is also buying umpteen Euro-fighters, which is fantastic and all - they are great aircraft, but, we don't have any trained pilots for the new aircraft.

We're going to keep 120 nuclear warheads because someone has calculated that we might need to destroy 120 cities full of civilians at some point in the future.

Whoever said the US can do bigger and better dumb was wrong. We have it covered.


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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:04:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now you just need to give up that the right honorable gentleman from Basingstoke bullshit during Q&A time and have your people go 'look here you stupid cocksucker'  and  you will be all yank (the greatest country on earth) in no time.

And learn to say ass.....a donkey is a donkey.  The stinkhole is an ass.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:06:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		The armed forces are largely a waste of taxpayers money. No point clothing/feeding/housing 50k men to sit around drinking tea all day and firing bullets on shooting ranges, when warfare is pretty much all in the air nowadays.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:12:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		But we've got an empire to defend...

Oh, hang on - no, we don't. We need the military because it makes people respect us and makes us feel important. Losers.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:14:26 PM   
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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:17:24 PM   
hertz


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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:30:55 PM   
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But we've got an empire to defend...

Oh, hang on - no, we don't. We need the military because it makes people respect us and makes us feel important. Losers.



On the OTHER hand - having the grunts in barracks keeps them out of sight, earshot, and mind. Without the army, we'd have tens of thousands of blokes walking around wanting to join an organisation in which they can legally kill people, and having nowhere to go but to the pub where you drink.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:40:14 PM   
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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:43:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Had you actually listened to what was being said, the NEW planes will be ready 3 years after the carriers and in the meantime we will use the ones we have. Or is that too simple for you to fathom?????

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:46:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hertz

Here's my understanding of it...



Your understanding is almost entirely wrong. Go and read some informed articles on it, and see if you can spot the mistakes you've made.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:48:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue
Your understanding is almost entirely wrong. Go and read some informed articles on it, and see if you can spot the mistakes you've made.


Actually, my understanding of the situation is almost entirely correct. Sorry about that.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:54:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hertz

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue
Your understanding is almost entirely wrong. Go and read some informed articles on it, and see if you can spot the mistakes you've made.


Actually, my understanding of the situation is almost entirely correct. Sorry about that.



Ah, so you either haven't read said articles or, having read them, haven't understood them.

Cool. So pleased we got that sorted out. Move along, nothing to see here ...

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:55:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Re OP, your understanding is wrong. The impression given by certain newspapers is rarely accurate....the RAF has many planes.Which is 5 words I should not have to explain to anyone.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:56:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: frazzle

Had you actually listened to what was being said, the NEW planes will be ready 3 years after the carriers and in the meantime we will use the ones we have. Or is that too simple for you to fathom?????


The Harriers are being scrapped. There are no aircraft.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 2:59:36 PM   
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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 3:00:51 PM   
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Re OP, your understanding is wrong. The impression given by certain newspapers is rarely accurate....the RAF has many planes.Which is 5 words I should not have to explain to anyone.



The RAF have many planes. But the ones that fly to and from aircraft carriers are being scrapped. As will be the Ark Royal. And the new carriers will have no planes.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 3:02:16 PM   
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Hertz you are an idiot.


DC Woody you are reported.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 3:05:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: hertz

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue
Your understanding is almost entirely wrong. Go and read some informed articles on it, and see if you can spot the mistakes you've made.


Actually, my understanding of the situation is almost entirely correct. Sorry about that.



Ah, so you either haven't read said articles or, having read them, haven't understood them.

Cool. So pleased we got that sorted out. Move along, nothing to see here ...


Whatever.

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 3:08:25 PM   
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The RAF have many planes. But the ones that fly to and from aircraft carriers are being scrapped. As will be the Ark Royal. And the new carriers will have no planes.



The RAF have no planes flying to and from aircraft carriers and, outside of a few limited operations in WWII, haven't had since 1924.

Hint: google for "Fleet Air Arm".

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RE: UK Government 'too stupid for words' shocker - 10/19/2010 3:57:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

The RAF have no planes flying to and from aircraft carriers and, outside of a few limited operations in WWII, haven't had since 1924.

Hint: google for "Fleet Air Arm".



You forgot the Falklands.

The problem with the new carriers is incredible. Labour signed a contract that means its cheaper to build them than scrap the contract. Hence the decision to scrap Ark Royal. I have heard figures of a wait of anything from 4 to 10 years for the new jsf aircraft. The Nimrod programme is 8 years late and over budget, so Im glad thats been scrapped.

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