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JassWolf -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 5:47:25 PM)
Neither of us are especially fond of 3rd person-speak, but I think it helps pita with her headspace during punishment or, sometimes, discipline. It seems to help establish a "tone." These activities -- sometimes in scene, sometimes not -- are conducted in private. When it no longer "works," we'll abandon it as easily as we began. JW

fyreredsub -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 5:50:02 PM)
Master requires it during all communication except work and family

Vancouver_cinful -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 6:23:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JassWolf Neither of us are especially fond of 3rd person-speak, but I think it helps pita with her headspace during punishment or, sometimes, discipline. It seems to help establish a "tone." These activities -- sometimes in scene, sometimes not -- are conducted in private. When it no longer "works," we'll abandon it as easily as we began. JW Now, this approach I can see. Several people in this thread have mentioned using it only in private, or in a punishment/discipline context, or during specific scenes. That makes sense to me. As to the OP's original question: I have yet to actually hear it at my local munch, but that may be because it's expected that people are discreet, since it's a public venue. Cin

Calandra -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 6:37:31 PM)
I applaud your dedication to observe the customs and commands of your owners... I personally do not insist upon the use of third person speech in my household, but when cubby joined me it was from a Gorean household and I found that when he used third person, he was reminded of his station in a beautiful and non-demeaning way. I'm often amused when people take issue with concepts like this one... If it cost you nothing but time and personal attention to obey your owner's command, and it dosen't impact your heath and well-being, why should anyone take issue with it???? ~shaking my head and smiling~

stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 6:41:48 PM)
stormi uses 3rd party speach because it pleases Master. That is after all what is important is it not? That stormi's Master is pleased by her actions? All of His girls MUST use 3rd party speech in Master's Camp. Those with Master will get more attention and quicker response when using it in RT. Master has to stormi's knowledge never said " slaves must at all times use 3rd party speech". The online camp girls use it when ever in camp or addressing emails and such to Master or other Masters of the Gorean ways. stormi does not know the requirement of others that Master owns, as that is HIS business not stormi's. stormi property of TEMJI aka Master Bear

Calandra -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 6:44:16 PM)
With my cubby, it was used universally. I had to train him NOT to use third person.

stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 6:56:03 PM)
Ma'am, You would be surprised at the number who do take issue. For sometime now stormi stayed away from speaking on this very site because of the rudeness of a few and her 3rd party speech. Had folks raising all kinds of ..... over it. It is only recently, that stormi has started reading and enjoying the boards again. Partly because there are many changes in the making in the near future and stormi thought that outside connection to the bdsm- M/s- D/s community might help her in dealing with those changes without too much commotion stormi wishes You and Yours well. stormi property of TEMJI aka Master Bear

Maam4slavegirl -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 6:58:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fyreredsub this girls concern is if it is what Master and Mistress wish for this girl to learn, then she will learn. *First, second, third, fourth or fifth person....this sentence answers it all.*

truesub4u -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 7:04:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: valeca So, would that be a yes, you use it when the puter is off? Not to be obtuse, but I'm aware that the communication/interaction between some people is limited to e-mail, IM's and other means of online communication, so I'm asking specifically if anyone uses it off-line. Since you didn't actually state whether you're online or have face-to-face interactions, I'm left a little in the dark. I'll assume you meant "in all communication" to include face-to-face interaction. I do appreciate your taking the time to answer previously, and apologize for any mistake on my part. Maybe it might be better for me to simply ask, *does anyone use "3rd person speak" in the off-line, face-to-face interactions of daily life of BDSM, or in an off-line* public setting?** And again, I'm not looking for the "I like it/I don't like it" answers, or an individual's reasons for using it. It doesn't matter how you ask THIS question... you're going to get responses from all on it.....

VvShadowspawnvV -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 7:12:21 PM)
i use it in real life, with Master, if i am begging or in a lot of trouble... and usually it is "Your girl" or "Your slave" rather than "this girl". becca

feastie -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 7:14:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: valeca Thank you, everyone, for replying. However, only Merc really answered the questions. I understand the reasons it's used, so I'm not really looking for the 'why' answers. To be frank, I don't really care what a persons reasons are for using it, or not using it. I'll try to clarify the questions: For those who use it (or who are told to use it), does it extend to off-line interaction, as well, or does it fall by the wayside when the puter is turned off? To go one step further, if it is used off-line, is it limited to scening, or is it used in everyday conversation? And, how many, if any, have, or do use it in a public setting? I have used it in daily communication with my Master and I have used it only when having to explain to Master actions I've taken and why, etc. I have not used it publically. I found it most helpful used as objectification when explaining myself. The military uses it in much the same manner..."This soldier..." It didn't hinder my communication skills; one must stop and think carefully of one's words when using "slavespeak". However, I don't find it useful or necessary in day to day communications and it does press that annoyance button for me. It really ruffles my feathers when a man refers to himself as, "This Master" or to me as "Does girl..?", etc. To each his own, but that's one train that has left the station on a one-way trip for me.

Maam4slavegirl -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 7:22:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WikedUncle quote: How many of you, Dom* and sub alike, use it in real life? Third person speech appears to be another example of life imitating art. I have been living this life for 30 years now. The last 26 of them 24/7. My first passed on after being mine for 14 years, but while alive he always used third person as it was what I said should be done. My male now, who has been with me for 10 years, does the same as it is what I said should be done. When I find the girl I am looking for she shall do the same. I do not imitate art...I live life...and those who are mine do the same. It keeps them in the state of mind that I want them in.

valeca -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 7:30:06 PM)
Thank you to everyone who took the time to respond. I very much appreciate the time and insights given. And truesub4u--I have a feeling you are dead on about that. [;)]

Maam4slavegirl -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 7:31:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: valeca So, would that be a yes, you use it when the puter is off? Not to be obtuse, but I'm aware that the communication/interaction between some people is limited to e-mail, IM's and other means of online communication, so I'm asking specifically if anyone uses it off-line. Since you didn't actually state whether you're online or have face-to-face interactions, I'm left a little in the dark. I'll assume you meant "in all communication" to include face-to-face interaction. I do appreciate your taking the time to answer previously, and apologize for any mistake on my part. Maybe it might be better for me to simply ask, *does anyone use "3rd person speak" in the off-line, face-to-face interactions of daily life of BDSM, or in an off-line* public setting? And again, I'm not looking for the "I like it/I don't like it" answers, or an individual's reasons for using it. Yes valeca, except for when he is working my slave uses third person all of the time.**

Calandra -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 7:42:18 PM)
stormi, I totally understand. Negative comments almost always outweigh the positive ones. I might have a perfectly fine day running errands, dealing with people, etc... but one rude cashier can spoil it. It's not fair, but it is how human interaction works. Those of us who honor you and your Master for your devotion and obedience do exist. As a dominant, I know how proud I am when cubby obeys me in the face of opposition like you and others have received... ~warm smiles~ Kathryn

CmotDribbler -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/26/2006 10:10:58 PM)
I refer to myself in the Third person as "Dribbler" quite often, online nearly 100% of the time Offline, with my Kitten.... 70-80% without my Kitten, 10-20% of the time. both in and out of public. The only reason I don't use it to much, is as Dribbler is not my Given name, it would confuse people when I start refering to myself as such.

stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/27/2006 3:12:06 AM)
Ma'am, Please allow stormi to say Thank You. It's all online but sometimes people forget that those barbs they are sticking in or throwing around do at times add up and leave impressions ever so brief. stormi has made her share of mistakes coming from 7 yrs of Old Guard leather to being a Gorean 24/7 slave. That You can bank on...LOL. But if small things make stormi's Master smile, who is she to deny that pleasure? stormi wishes You a wonderful day! stormi property of TEMJI aka Master Bear

stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/27/2006 3:17:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CmotDribbler I refer to myself in the Third person as "Dribbler" quite often, online nearly 100% of the time Offline, with my Kitten.... 70-80% without my Kitten, 10-20% of the time. both in and out of public. The only reason I don't use it to much, is as Dribbler is not my Given name, it would confuse people when I start refering to myself as such. stormi completely understands this. stormi attended a course last year where they would not allow two students with the same name sooooo stormi picked up her Master's name for her "stormi". It actually made it so easy to stay in stormi's place at all times since the trade she was learning was a "service" trade as well. stormi's family still has a problem with calling her that and continue to call her by her given name but then they have a issue with the whole poly two women in one house with one male and their daughter/sister being devoted to Him. stormi property of Master Bear

fyreredsub -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/27/2006 3:59:48 AM)
this girl does not care about the negative, she sees the nose of most wrinkle when they hear the word Gorean as ischuckles. those few that understand why this girl does as she does,and even support the endevour , she thanks you and wishes you all a wonderful day. no matter what it is all about Master and Mistress and for those that can't understand that concept.......wishing them a good day too.this one is sure there are some that have rules she would think are odd.[&:] seems by this thread there quite a few that use third all the time or had to when first under a Masters care. part of life. prejudices abound for just about everything from speech to race to religion so why not in kink...hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm????????? just this girls humble 02. quote: ORIGINAL: Calandra stormi, I totally understand. Negative comments almost always outweigh the positive ones. I might have a perfectly fine day running errands, dealing with people, etc... but one rude cashier can spoil it. It's not fair, but it is how human interaction works. Those of us who honor you and your Master for your devotion and obedience do exist. As a dominant, I know how proud I am when cubby obeys me in the face of opposition like you and others have received... ~warm smiles~ Kathryn

Tikkiee -> RE: For those who use 3rd person speak... (4/27/2006 4:59:35 AM)
Personally, third person speech does not bother me at all, I am used to it pretty much. I have several friends who are Gorean slaves, and even in a public setting, they still use the third person to refer to themselves. If it makes them happy, who am I to say that they should not do it [:)]

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