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Terrorism uin the USA - 10/26/2010 7:33:58 PM   
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Consider what happened on May 31, 2009.
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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/26/2010 9:32:18 PM   
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The part where the Doctor said "he was just a tool" summed it up for for me.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/26/2010 11:04:52 PM   
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Murder at Ruby Ridge

By David Lohr Government Gone Wrong setSize(curSize);
Ruby Ridge cabin, aerial view (AP)In August of 1992 Americans tensely watched as events began to unfold on a remote ridge in Northern Idaho, involving a white separatist family and the FBI. Eleven days after it had begun, a 14-year-old boy, a 42-year-old mother, a federal marshal, and one yellow Labrador retriever had all been shot dead.The incident ultimately led to one of the most intensive and controversial investigations in recent history. The FBI faced widespread resentment and Attorney General Janet Reno established a Justice Department task force to investigate what had happened. National debates on the case were said to have fueled anti-government sentiments, which eventually played a role in the Waco, Oklahoma City, and the Freemen conflict. Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the government building in Oklahoma City is said to be at least partially motivated by revenge for what happened at Ruby Ridge.Prior to the incident, the Weaver family had moved to the remote mountaintop to escape what they viewed as a sinful world. Randy Weaver lived with his wife and four children in a cabin he himself built on Ruby Ridge, just 40 miles south of the Canadian border. The cabin had no electricity or running water. According to friends, the Weavers simply wanted to be left alone as they awaited Armageddon. While many may have viewed their intent as unusual, it appeared to be quite harmless to most who knew them.Almost a decade later many questions remain: What went wrong at Ruby Ridge? Why did over 400 members of the FBI, military and local law enforcement converge on the mountain? Why did so many have to die? These and similar such questions are not easily answered, however; some answers may lay hidden within the details provided.


What do you think about this assassination Ken? 

Child and mother.

The perps are still at large.


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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 4:32:32 AM   
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What do you think about this assassination Ken? 

Child and mother.

The perps are still at large.



Way to go Realone, one post and you have already dragged the thread off topic. I am suprised anyone, even you, can equate this to mudering a man in Church in cold blood.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 1:05:55 PM   
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yep terrorism home grown without a doubt


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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 1:40:07 PM   
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What do you think about this assassination Ken? 

Child and mother.

The perps are still at large.



Way to go Realone, one post and you have already dragged the thread off topic. I am suprised anyone, even you, can equate this to mudering a man in Church in cold blood.


weavers wife and 14 year old were victims of a government sanctioned sniper attack equally as unwarranted.

I could continue with waco where the government murdered as in burned alive nearly 100 people over a fucking 200 dollar gun license.

Services at the end of a barrel of a gun gone steroids.

Terrorism by another name terrorism just the same.



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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 3:27:40 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 4:36:24 PM   
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weavers wife and 14 year old were victims of a government sanctioned sniper attack equally as unwarranted.

I could continue with waco where the government murdered as in burned alive nearly 100 people over a fucking 200 dollar gun license.

Services at the end of a barrel of a gun gone steroids.

Terrorism by another name terrorism just the same.




Weavers wife was hit by a stray bullet that went through the door she was standing behind. His son was shot after shooting at a US agent. ( Hey Im in the UK and seem to have been able to find an official report, you could have done the same ) How do you compare this with some right wing religous nut job shooting a guy in cold blood in a church ?

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 4:39:29 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.


This provocative nonsense doesnt enter into it. The doctor who was killed wasnt breaking the law, Roeder was a killer plain and simple.

THIS should be easy to understand, even for you........ Religious beliefs dont over ride the rule of law in the US.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 4:48:56 PM   
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I know when I talked to McVeigh he was upset over this. 

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 4:52:57 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.

Zero.

Dr. Tiller only performed late term abortions when the fetus was non viable or the mother's life was endangered. He even had to have an independent second opinion before he could proceed.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 5:17:32 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.

Zero.

Dr. Tiller only performed late term abortions when the fetus was non viable or the mother's life was endangered. He even had to have an independent second opinion before he could proceed.


Thats why there was an ongoing criminal investigation at the time he was killed.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 5:21:03 PM   
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Tiller was tried and aquited in Kansas.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 5:23:25 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.

Zero.

Dr. Tiller only performed late term abortions when the fetus was non viable or the mother's life was endangered. He even had to have an independent second opinion before he could proceed.


Thats why there was an ongoing criminal investigation at the time he was killed.

No, there wasn't. He had been acquitted on all charges.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/27/george-tiller-kansas-doct_n_180280.html

The state licensing board was considering the exact same baseless complaint and he was sure to be exonerated there too. Roeder even cited the acquittal as part of his rationale for assasinating Dr. Tiller.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 5:32:03 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.

Zero.

Dr. Tiller only performed late term abortions when the fetus was non viable or the mother's life was endangered. He even had to have an independent second opinion before he could proceed.


Thats why there was an ongoing criminal investigation at the time he was killed.

No, there wasn't. He had been acquitted on all charges.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/27/george-tiller-kansas-doct_n_180280.html

The state licensing board was considering the exact same baseless complaint and he was sure to be exonerated there too. Roeder even cited the acquittal as part of his rationale for assasinating Dr. Tiller.


You are correct, my bad. It was the state board investigation I was remembering. However, your opinion that he was "sure to be exonerated" isnt worth the pixels its displayed in.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 5:46:58 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.



If you approve of what that scum based on your so called "Religion" You are no better a man than Abdul the Raghead that crashes a jeep full of explosives into our boys in the sandbox.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 5:52:41 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.



If you approve of what that scum based on your so called "Religion" You are no better a man than Abdul the Raghead that crashes a jeep full of explosives into our boys in the sandbox.


ROFL. The model of moderation puts in his 2 cents.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 6:07:37 PM   
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It's all religious terrorism isnt it? Just a matter of which religion. I bet truckin would be REALLY unhappy if a bunch of Druids decided that diesel fumes killed too many trees and put a bounty on truck drivers.

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 7:01:46 PM   
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I wonder how many babies owe their lives to Scott Roeder.
You never dissapoint do you?
One figures that your base line has been established.....and you manage to obliterate and misconception one might have.
There is always a basement with you, heh?

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RE: Terrorism uin the USA - 10/27/2010 9:14:35 PM   
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I often find it interesting that a group of men will debate an issue that is so utterly feminine.

edited to clarify... this is directed at no one in particular.

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