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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/27/2010 10:14:57 PM

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His frustration, and ours as a nation, is completely understandable.

About the 87.5 million.

The organization claims to have 1.6 million members. That makes the per person amount to be less than 55 dollars.

According to a site i found for local members of the same organization, the formula they use for someone making a little over 12 dollars an hour pays roughly 14.50 bi-weekly to the Union. Its feasible that all the money they have donated came from union members.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/27/2010 10:42:10 PM

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I'm sure it came from union members, Tazzy. Unions of state and municipal employees. Closed shops. Tax dollars, being plugged back into the system to support an agenda of ever increasing tax dollars.

The only thing it goes to show is that big money just doesn't travel very well as a partisan argument.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/27/2010 10:43:35 PM

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I think its rediculous the amount of money spent on elections.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/27/2010 10:58:02 PM

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Yep.

And on that note of agreement, I'm heading off, Tazzy.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/27/2010 11:22:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

His frustration, and ours as a nation, is completely understandable.

About the 87.5 million.

The organization claims to have 1.6 million members. That makes the per person amount to be less than 55 dollars.

According to a site i found for local members of the same organization, the formula they use for someone making a little over 12 dollars an hour pays roughly 14.50 bi-weekly to the Union. Its feasible that all the money they have donated came from union members.

Feasible but highly unlikely

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/27/2010 11:34:58 PM

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377 in... 55 dollars out... still plenty left for the union... yep.. very feasible. Glad you agree!

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/27/2010 11:40:20 PM

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377 in... 55 dollars out... still plenty left for the union... yep.. very feasible. Glad you agree!

If you think any union spends 15% of its dues on political donations youre even more delusional than I already thought. (And given your delusion that abortion is an "utterly feminine" matter, thats going a long way)

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/27/2010 11:45:26 PM

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Pregnancy is an utterly feminine issue. Abortion or delivery is an utterly feminine issue. When men get pregnant, then we can discuss changing that.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 12:02:57 AM

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Pregnancy is an utterly feminine issue. Abortion or delivery is an utterly feminine issue. When men get pregnant, then we can discuss changing that.

When women can get pregnant without sperm then we can discuss your asinine premise.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 5:35:43 AM

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Then problem solved. Keep your sperm to yourself and there is no issue.

Until then, we dont need your permission to get an abortion.

Until then, we cant be told we cant have an abortion.

Gee, you guys got no say in any of it.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 5:39:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

377 in... 55 dollars out... still plenty left for the union... yep.. very feasible. Glad you agree!

If you think any union spends 15% of its dues on political donations youre even more delusional than I already thought. (And given your delusion that abortion is an "utterly feminine" matter, thats going a long way)

So you spent time running a Union as well? What haven't you done lol

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 5:42:18 AM

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FR:
Perhaps Willbur could explain how an issue that effects women a lot more heavily than men isn't a feminine issue at some point?

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 5:53:02 AM

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Seems PoliteSub needs to explain that as well.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 1:25:04 PM

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I want nothing in return, but a more just and enlightened nation.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 1:29:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

377 in... 55 dollars out... still plenty left for the union... yep.. very feasible. Glad you agree!

If you think any union spends 15% of its dues on political donations youre even more delusional than I already thought. (And given your delusion that abortion is an "utterly feminine" matter, thats going a long way)

So you spent time running a Union as well? What haven't you done lol

Nope, never ran one. But I consult to 3 and meet with each of them no less than quarterly.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 2:50:35 PM

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It seems we have some outside interests involved and spending money for the "grassroots movement".

Perhaps you should study history and politics a little more, and figure out what a "grassroots" movement is, and where they can lead.

Quotes from your post that may assist you:how to exploit the voter anger they had seen erupt

You're kidding me right?

Haven't we been hearing Republican criticism for two years over Rahm Emanuel's quote of taking advantage of a crisis?

quote:

there was a tremendous amount of grass-roots energy building

a grass-roots prairie fire that was building in intensity

we could do was pour gasoline on that

No, this was the quote Firm, absent your selective editing:

"Clearly there was a tremendous amount of grass-roots energy building — a grass-roots prairie fire that was building in intensity," Law, now the Crossroads president, said in an interview. "We felt that one of the things we could do was pour gasoline on that."

Now shall we talk about what Crossroads is and who they are funded by?

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 2:58:43 PM

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George Soros must be the grass roots for the democrats, right after SEIU and the other union thugs.

Says the man living off a union-negotiated pension.

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 3:05:26 PM

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Back to the Op's thread. There is no such thing as an outside interest. Everyone who donates money to a particular party wants something in return.

So what do those who are backing the Tea Party want?

And doesn't this fly in the face of everyone here who has told me this is a "movement of the people"?

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 3:06:13 PM

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Original: rml

"Clearly there was a tremendous amount of grass-roots energy building — a grass-roots prairie fire that was building in intensity," Law, now the Crossroads president, said in an interview. "We felt that one of the things we could do was pour gasoline on that."

Now shall we talk about what Crossroads is and who they are funded by?

No.

In your mind, there seems to be no difference between:

1) a political organization deciding that they can make hay out of an issue, and then going and paying for professional "activists" and union members to protest at an event, or against a person, bused in from outside the district, to conduct a protest that would not otherwise exist. Such a protest would never have existed without the funding and the planning of the political organization.

2) a political organization that sees a rising tide of discontent and local protests, by people who have rarely if ever been politically energized, and whose desires for change mirrors many of their own concerns, and decide to assist by funding. The protests, and the discontent existed before the decision to support it and fund it.

One is an "astro-turf" and you buddy Rahm is an acknowledged master of it.

The other is a "grassroots" movement, that has gained traction and support, and may turn into an organization, or organizations with a permanent political impact.

You see the difference?

Firm

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RE: The Best Government Money Can Buy - 10/28/2010 3:24:12 PM

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Then problem solved. Keep your sperm to yourself and there is no issue.

Until then, we dont need your permission to get an abortion.

Until then, we cant be told we cant have an abortion.

Gee, you guys got no say in any of it.

Ok, now you are going to make me hijack my own thread and, even worse, have to agree with Willbeur.

How is it we "got no say in any of it"?

Why do you expect a father to be responsible for the child he produces but insist that it is only your decision whether to have the child?

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