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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 7:22:30 AM   
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Hmmm... I have the feeling that you haven't found the right partner.. or it just isn't for you.. but I personally benefit from that sort of activity... what a marvelous way to exert dominance...

among several other billion things it can do...


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Anal "training" is male-centric play, a treat doled out at a whim by her for HIS pleasure. WTH makes you think the Domme benefits at all from that sort of activity?



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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 11:38:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

My goal in anally training a submissive male is to get him to transfer as much of his sexual response from his penis to his anus as he can. He gets a chance to learn what it's like for many women whose partners think they should be able to cum from vaginal fucking only without any additional stimulation. When he's able to ejaculate from a strap-on fucking, I consider him 'fully trained. Very few can do it...so we keep trying ;-)



This is along the lines of my feelings as well. Thanks

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 11:45:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

My goal in anally training a submissive male is to get him to transfer as much of his sexual response from his penis to his anus as he can. He gets a chance to learn what it's like for many women whose partners think they should be able to cum from vaginal fucking only without any additional stimulation. When he's able to ejaculate from a strap-on fucking, I consider him 'fully trained. Very few can do it...so we keep trying ;-)


Just going to point out it's not quite the same. There are many biological reasons a woman should be able to have a vaginal orgasm. There are none for a man. Regardless, I've always wondered how many of the ~50% of women who can't cannot because of mental blocks.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 11:56:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: TerrorNova
be ready to accept something.. and object, a dildo, a plug...

be prepared to accept activities that might entertain all those concerned. Although i favour longer term usage of plugs, I'm interested in what might be considered a good end result (pardon the pun) something a slave can invest in, a goal to work towards. Sometihng as entertaining as it might be perceived useful.


Which is fine, because it is your belief.  What happens when you meet the Dominant woman who believes otherwise? 

The highlighted above leads Me to believe that you are working from the fantasy angle, because the reality of a Dominant woman currently in your life doesn't exist yet.  You are supposing that this is what she is going to want and you want to be prepared in anticipation of establishing this type of connection with someone.  In My opinion, this is never a good idea, to conjure up what the Dominant woman is going to want based on what you think she's supposed to like.  You don't really know her opinion of it.  You're just going on the stereotype.

Some Dominant women are interested in anal play with their submissives and others are not.  Where does all of your 'anal training' leave you if the Dominant woman that you choose to have a relationship with doesn't care one way or the other?





I am a Dominant, I am asking a Mistress simply due to the fact that anal play when used in hetero scenarios (male sub) is often used for humiliation, and my situation is a hetero one (female sub), and I appreciate a womans point of view in this regard, but opinions from any and all sexes is appreciated.. I am just looking for a diversity of opinions. I don't recall even once in my post suggesting that a Dominant woman should do or like anything in particular. This is not my concern nor is it my question.

I am just looking for creative uses of a slaves ass. I am creative and I know what I like, but I am looking for new and different ideas, perhaps ideas that might not be exclusive to one sex or the other. In my experiences using a female slaves ass is not coupled with the same thoughts of homosexuality and humiliation found in most male slaves. I am looking for angles that I might not have thought of.

Your assertions are unsettling. I am the Dominant, and I enjoy it. I am interested in clever ways to get my slaves buy-in in such a way that she need not necessarily feel humiliated by the act of anal play, but feel invested in satisfying my demands and that she find (or accept my "suggestions" towards) new and creative ways to use her ass for my enjoyment, while ensuring that she is stretching regularly and eventually be capable of accommodate larger objects that is an example of a goal. Humiliation is good, but I would like her to take pleasure in pleasing me by working on her anal development creatively, and eventually rid herself on any inhibitions with respect to anal play should a more public demonstration be required of her.

I thought that opening a conversation might prove more interesting than surfing the web for ideas on BDSM sites.

Thanks for the responses so far. Even if I don't get any suggestions I'm still interested in the conversation, if I was wrong to post my query on this board I apologize.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:07:22 PM   
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I would like people's thoughts on long term/short term goals for anal training.

Short Term---Get my rocks off.
Long Term---Get my rocks, repeatedly.


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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:20:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


Your assertions are unsettling. I am the Dominant, and I enjoy it.



Now I'm even more confused...

quote:


In the early days of my BDSM experience the Dommes I experienced placed a particular value on the versatility of a slaves ass.


Why not just be up front from the get go..."I'm a dominant male who is looking for ideas to use with my female submissive"?

Honestly, your talk of being "trained to perform on command" brings to mind a circus act or something from David Letterman's 'Stupid Pet Tricks' only for humans.

I'm being completely serious when I say good luck, I hope you find some ideas for your partner's act.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:26:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh


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ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


Your assertions are unsettling. I am the Dominant, and I enjoy it.



Now I'm even more confused...

quote:


In the early days of my BDSM experience the Dommes I experienced placed a particular value on the versatility of a slaves ass.


Why not just be up front from the get go..."I'm a dominant male who is looking for ideas to use with my female submissive"?

Honestly, your talk of being "trained to perform on command" brings to mind a circus act or something from David Letterman's 'Stupid Pet Tricks' only for humans.

I'm being completely serious when I say good luck, I hope you find some ideas for your partner's act.



I was trying to be gender and orientation neutral in order to get the broadest cross section of opinions, and because I am a Dom does that mean I have no experience with Dommes?

What is wrong with entertainment? If it were between T.V. and my slave demonstrating some sort of aptitude for creative anal play while I look on I think I'd put down the remote.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:27:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlackTigerDragon


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ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh


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ORIGINAL: TerrorNova
I have long believed that a slaves ass should be trained to "perform" on command, for the shear entertainment value, to their humiliation.



What does this mean? Perform how?


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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:32:14 PM   
Madame4a


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"What is wrong with entertainment? If it were between T.V. and my slave demonstrating some sort of aptitude for creative anal play while I look on I think I'd put down the remote. "


ugghhh.. how nice for her, if she's entertaining (and your idea of entertainment is not mine) she's no longer second to the TV...

good luck with that..

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:32:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


quote:

ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh


quote:

ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


Your assertions are unsettling. I am the Dominant, and I enjoy it.



Now I'm even more confused...

quote:


In the early days of my BDSM experience the Dommes I experienced placed a particular value on the versatility of a slaves ass.


Why not just be up front from the get go..."I'm a dominant male who is looking for ideas to use with my female submissive"?

Honestly, your talk of being "trained to perform on command" brings to mind a circus act or something from David Letterman's 'Stupid Pet Tricks' only for humans.

I'm being completely serious when I say good luck, I hope you find some ideas for your partner's act.



I was trying to be gender and orientation neutral in order to get the broadest cross section of opinions, and because I am a Dom does that mean I have no experience with Dommes?

What is wrong with entertainment? If it were between T.V. and my slave demonstrating some sort of aptitude for creative anal play while I look on I think I'd put down the remote.


Seriously dude, if you need a message board to give you good anal ideas, you are not very creative.

I could give you a bookload of them, they are now copyrighted. Thing is...my guy and I worked on the ideas together. Which is what you should be doing.

Otherwise it seems like wank fodder, which is cool if someone wants to provide that to you.


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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:42:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Madame4a

"What is wrong with entertainment? If it were between T.V. and my slave demonstrating some sort of aptitude for creative anal play while I look on I think I'd put down the remote. "


ugghhh.. how nice for her, if she's entertaining (and your idea of entertainment is not mine) she's no longer second to the TV...

good luck with that..


Incredible! One hypothetical circumstance evokes an "ugghhh". I think you have viewed my profile, is says so in the who's viewing me section. Whether you did or didn't read my profile the tone of your post suggests that I don't respect and value my relationship with my submissive.

I would go as far as to suggest that there are a vast number of people out there with varying opinions as to what constitute fun between consenting adults in a power exchange relationship.

I am in a caring meaningful multifaceted relationship, one where our identities are more than just our bdsm orientation, I believe this is healthy. Seeing how some Dommes talk on this forum I understand that mutual respect may be a rarity, but rest assured that I am committed to he person as much or more than their sexual identity, and I do my best to appreciate and nurture both.

She is second to nothing and no one, although I can't believe that I have to say as much on a forum of adults who I choose to believe are sensible first and not fantasy freaks.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:48:13 PM   
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OP, I did not read your profile, I took your question to be one from a male submissive---and we OFTEN get posts from male submissives wanting "ideas".

I enjoy anal play, but as I said before, anal training is a porno myth. Given the choice between vaginal fisting and anal fisting, I would choose vaginal fisting... women do not have prostates, and while anal sex is fun, there are more entertaining options when playing with a woman, for ME.

Now that you have clarified what you are looking for--and who you are!--I hope you will get some more relevant responses.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:58:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TerrorNova
I am a Dominant, I am asking a Mistress simply due to the fact that anal play when used in hetero scenarios (male sub) is often used for humiliation, and my situation is a hetero one (female sub), and I appreciate a womans point of view in this regard, but opinions from any and all sexes is appreciated.. I am just looking for a diversity of opinions. I don't recall even once in my post suggesting that a Dominant woman should do or like anything in particular. This is not my concern nor is it my question.

I am just looking for creative uses of a slaves ass. I am creative and I know what I like, but I am looking for new and different ideas, perhaps ideas that might not be exclusive to one sex or the other. In my experiences using a female slaves ass is not coupled with the same thoughts of homosexuality and humiliation found in most male slaves. I am looking for angles that I might not have thought of.

Your assertions are unsettling. I am the Dominant, and I enjoy it. I am interested in clever ways to get my slaves buy-in in such a way that she need not necessarily feel humiliated by the act of anal play, but feel invested in satisfying my demands and that she find (or accept my "suggestions" towards) new and creative ways to use her ass for my enjoyment, while ensuring that she is stretching regularly and eventually be capable of accommodate larger objects that is an example of a goal. Humiliation is good, but I would like her to take pleasure in pleasing me by working on her anal development creatively, and eventually rid herself on any inhibitions with respect to anal play should a more public demonstration be required of her.

I thought that opening a conversation might prove more interesting than surfing the web for ideas on BDSM sites.

Thanks for the responses so far. Even if I don't get any suggestions I'm still interested in the conversation, if I was wrong to post my query on this board I apologize.

In My opinion, there is nothing wrong with asking across gender lines.  Orientation doesn't preclude folks from asking questions here.  As far as I'm concerned, male Dominants (or any other mix of gender and orientation) are welcome.

The common misconception that anal play for males as being humiliating for the receiver is often based on poor education and homophobia.  The social stigma of the male anus being pleasurable for a straight male is rather ridiculous if you consider human anatomy.  Regardless of gender, people do have the same nerve endings in the anus.  Males have the additional bonus of prostate stimulation.  If you are linking anal play with homosexuality exclusively, you would be quite mistaken.

The majority of Dommes that I know that do engage in anal play with their male submissives don't link it to homosexual behavior into it for the purposes of humiliation.  Many of us see something like strap on sex as just another way to have sex, rather than the traditional vaginal penetration method.  Very much like you probably just see vaginal sex and anal sex with your girl as just two different ways of fucking. 

This isn't to say that the angle that you are looking to find isn't what some people enjoy.  However, it tends to have it's roots in different areas.  It fits for those especially who have been so incorrectly socially conditioned to believe that it must be humiliating for a male to enjoy anal play or that it must have some link to him not being heterosexual.  This does tend to be rooted in particular types of porn.  It's very often male driven and one way that males can come to terms with that fact that anal play does actually feel good, even though some very warped ideas have been introduced over the years.

Actual humiliation based on sexual orientation?  Not so much. 




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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 12:59:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

quote:

ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


quote:

ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh


quote:

ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


Your assertions are unsettling. I am the Dominant, and I enjoy it.



Now I'm even more confused...

quote:


In the early days of my BDSM experience the Dommes I experienced placed a particular value on the versatility of a slaves ass.


Why not just be up front from the get go..."I'm a dominant male who is looking for ideas to use with my female submissive"?

Honestly, your talk of being "trained to perform on command" brings to mind a circus act or something from David Letterman's 'Stupid Pet Tricks' only for humans.

I'm being completely serious when I say good luck, I hope you find some ideas for your partner's act.



I was trying to be gender and orientation neutral in order to get the broadest cross section of opinions, and because I am a Dom does that mean I have no experience with Dommes?

What is wrong with entertainment? If it were between T.V. and my slave demonstrating some sort of aptitude for creative anal play while I look on I think I'd put down the remote.


Seriously dude, if you need a message board to give you good anal ideas, you are not very creative.

I could give you a bookload of them, they are now copyrighted. Thing is...my guy and I worked on the ideas together. Which is what you should be doing.

Otherwise it seems like wank fodder, which is cool if someone wants to provide that to you.




Why is it so hard to believe that someone who once lived in a major metropolitan area and now lives in a really small rural place would like to talk to other like minded people about such things. I have far from run the gamut on my creativity, how ever I thought it would be useful in both getting perspectives that aren't my own, as well as getting to talk to like minded folk.

LOL "Wank fodder". I was just reading another post in which the poster was suggesting that Dommes who use "wank fodder" as a rebuttal are really just incapable of taking anyone other than themselves seriously.

I have been involved in the bdsm lifestyle for almost 18 years and I have always in public forums such as this given people the benefit of the doubt. If your experiences lead you to believe that everyone is looking for "wank fodder" perhaps you should look at yourself, you seem to be the common denominator. I have never heard of you, seen you, or messaged you on this board, so surely I'm not the common denominator. Perhaps if your response wasn't "wank fodder", more people would respect your opinion and not just look to you for a bit of grist for the masturbatory mill.


Such a childish passive aggressive attempt to color peoples opinions of my honest questions and honest desire to engage in conversation, is insulting to us both.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 1:13:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TerrorNova

I was trying to be gender and orientation neutral in order to get the broadest cross section of opinions, and because I am a Dom does that mean I have no experience with Dommes?

What is wrong with entertainment? If it were between T.V. and my slave demonstrating some sort of aptitude for creative anal play while I look on I think I'd put down the remote.


Gender neutral is fine, no disagreement on that. I was just curious why you felt it necessary to approach the discussion in that manner. Curiousity killed the cat...I know ;-)
As for having experience with dominant women, again, this was honest confusion on my part. Your original post appeared to have been written by a male submissive. No matter, thanks for the clarification.

Entertainment...what's wrong with it? Not a thing, but again, it comes back to the way I perceived your original post. If you remember, I did ask what you meant by "perform on command". My mistake, maybe, or yours for lack of clarification...what ever the case may be, I do hope you find some useful information, now that things are a bit clearer.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 1:14:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: TerrorNova
I am a Dominant, I am asking a Mistress simply due to the fact that anal play when used in hetero scenarios (male sub) is often used for humiliation, and my situation is a hetero one (female sub), and I appreciate a womans point of view in this regard, but opinions from any and all sexes is appreciated.. I am just looking for a diversity of opinions. I don't recall even once in my post suggesting that a Dominant woman should do or like anything in particular. This is not my concern nor is it my question.

I am just looking for creative uses of a slaves ass. I am creative and I know what I like, but I am looking for new and different ideas, perhaps ideas that might not be exclusive to one sex or the other. In my experiences using a female slaves ass is not coupled with the same thoughts of homosexuality and humiliation found in most male slaves. I am looking for angles that I might not have thought of.

Your assertions are unsettling. I am the Dominant, and I enjoy it. I am interested in clever ways to get my slaves buy-in in such a way that she need not necessarily feel humiliated by the act of anal play, but feel invested in satisfying my demands and that she find (or accept my "suggestions" towards) new and creative ways to use her ass for my enjoyment, while ensuring that she is stretching regularly and eventually be capable of accommodate larger objects that is an example of a goal. Humiliation is good, but I would like her to take pleasure in pleasing me by working on her anal development creatively, and eventually rid herself on any inhibitions with respect to anal play should a more public demonstration be required of her.

I thought that opening a conversation might prove more interesting than surfing the web for ideas on BDSM sites.

Thanks for the responses so far. Even if I don't get any suggestions I'm still interested in the conversation, if I was wrong to post my query on this board I apologize.

In My opinion, there is nothing wrong with asking across gender lines.  Orientation doesn't preclude folks from asking questions here.  As far as I'm concerned, male Dominants (or any other mix of gender and orientation) are welcome.

The common misconception that anal play for males as being humiliating for the receiver is often based on poor education and homophobia.  The social stigma of the male anus being pleasurable for a straight male is rather ridiculous if you consider human anatomy.  Regardless of gender, people do have the same nerve endings in the anus.  Males have the additional bonus of prostate stimulation.  If you are linking anal play with homosexuality exclusively, you would be quite mistaken.

The majority of Dommes that I know that do engage in anal play with their male submissives don't link it to homosexual behavior into it for the purposes of humiliation.  Many of us see something like strap on sex as just another way to have sex, rather than the traditional vaginal penetration method.  Very much like you probably just see vaginal sex and anal sex with your girl as just two different ways of fucking. 

This isn't to say that the angle that you are looking to find isn't what some people enjoy.  However, it tends to have it's roots in different areas.  It fits for those especially who have been so incorrectly socially conditioned to believe that it must be humiliating for a male to enjoy anal play or that it must have some link to him not being heterosexual.  This does tend to be rooted in particular types of porn.  It's very often male driven and one way that males can come to terms with that fact that anal play does actually feel good, even though some very warped ideas have been introduced over the years.

Actual humiliation based on sexual orientation?  Not so much. 






Thank you. This is the kind of discussion I was hoping for. I couldn't agree more with your statements pertaining to the stigma of homosexuality being used to humiliate, I have a lot of gay/lesbian friends and I don't think of them as walking around in a state of perpetual humiliation. This is why I was curious if from a female perspective (ones typically on the giving end) had any thoughts on the practice, given as you say the rationale for most males fearing anal play is the stigma of homosexuality, this rarely applies to women in my experience, and women are often more open to it in my experience. I'm just trying to make it a little more of an adventure, while speaking with like minded folk

Rather than anal play being something that I do exclusively to her, I feel it would be beneficial if she was actively engaged in the process with or without me being an active participant. As I have mentioned a couple of times so far, I just want to know what other's thoughts are. Many enjoy watching their partners masturbate, I am interested in making her ass a primary locale for sexual activity, couple with chastity.

Humiliation is a broad term and I admit that I may have mis-used it as I agree with you that orientation is nothing to be humiliated about, I should have perhaps used "engage in traditionally taboo activities" but as easily as that rolls of the tongue I was being a little too general.

Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

Given the inherent differences as to what people find enjoyable, distasteful, or humiliating I was just looking for a broad range of suggestions as to what other posters might enjoy. My submissive and I have a benchmark that we have come to understand that is applicable to us, but I'm not all knowing and I'm sure there are a lot of great ideas and attitudes out there pertaining to my post.

Thanks again.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 1:20:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh


quote:

ORIGINAL: TerrorNova

I was trying to be gender and orientation neutral in order to get the broadest cross section of opinions, and because I am a Dom does that mean I have no experience with Dommes?

What is wrong with entertainment? If it were between T.V. and my slave demonstrating some sort of aptitude for creative anal play while I look on I think I'd put down the remote.


Gender neutral is fine, no disagreement on that. I was just curious why you felt it necessary to approach the discussion in that manner. Curiousity killed the cat...I know ;-)
As for having experience with dominant women, again, this was honest confusion on my part. Your original post appeared to have been written by a male submissive. No matter, thanks for the clarification.

Entertainment...what's wrong with it? Not a thing, but again, it comes back to the way I perceived your original post. If you remember, I did ask what you meant by "perform on command". My mistake, maybe, or yours for lack of clarification...what ever the case may be, I do hope you find some useful information, now that things are a bit clearer.



Thanks, and I agree my initial post was too vague, and I accept responsibility for that. You can't make a chicken salad out of chicken Shit, and I am coming to understand that is essentially what I left for all in my first post.

I just didn't want to walk into an Ask a Mistress board and get all up in folks faces with my orientation. I have found occasionally that when you are a guest humble is best.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 2:19:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


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ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh


quote:

ORIGINAL: TerrorNova


Your assertions are unsettling. I am the Dominant, and I enjoy it.



Now I'm even more confused...

quote:


In the early days of my BDSM experience the Dommes I experienced placed a particular value on the versatility of a slaves ass.


Why not just be up front from the get go..."I'm a dominant male who is looking for ideas to use with my female submissive"?

Honestly, your talk of being "trained to perform on command" brings to mind a circus act or something from David Letterman's 'Stupid Pet Tricks' only for humans.

I'm being completely serious when I say good luck, I hope you find some ideas for your partner's act.



I was trying to be gender and orientation neutral in order to get the broadest cross section of opinions, and because I am a Dom does that mean I have no experience with Dommes?

What is wrong with entertainment? If it were between T.V. and my slave demonstrating some sort of aptitude for creative anal play while I look on I think I'd put down the remote.


Seriously dude, if you need a message board to give you good anal ideas, you are not very creative.

I could give you a bookload of them, they are now copyrighted. Thing is...my guy and I worked on the ideas together. Which is what you should be doing.

Otherwise it seems like wank fodder, which is cool if someone wants to provide that to you.




Why is it so hard to believe that someone who once lived in a major metropolitan area and now lives in a really small rural place would like to talk to other like minded people about such things. I have far from run the gamut on my creativity, how ever I thought it would be useful in both getting perspectives that aren't my own, as well as getting to talk to like minded folk.

LOL "Wank fodder". I was just reading another post in which the poster was suggesting that Dommes who use "wank fodder" as a rebuttal are really just incapable of taking anyone other than themselves seriously.

I have been involved in the bdsm lifestyle for almost 18 years and I have always in public forums such as this given people the benefit of the doubt. If your experiences lead you to believe that everyone is looking for "wank fodder" perhaps you should look at yourself, you seem to be the common denominator. I have never heard of you, seen you, or messaged you on this board, so surely I'm not the common denominator. Perhaps if your response wasn't "wank fodder", more people would respect your opinion and not just look to you for a bit of grist for the masturbatory mill.


Such a childish passive aggressive attempt to color peoples opinions of my honest questions and honest desire to engage in conversation, is insulting to us both.



How silly of you. I care nothing about you as a person and I care nothing about whether you have noticed me here or anywhere else. My comment about you asking for wank fodder has nothing whatsoever to do with ME, as I don't come to message boards seeking advice, creative ideas or anything else other than pure entertainment for myself.

As for people respecting my opinion on a message board, those who know me, respect me, those who do not know me or dislike how I honestly post, oh well, they don't.

You seem to be under the misperception that you have to actually LIKE the replies to your thread. Better get over that quickly. I would have thought that someone who is so experienced in 18 years would realize that just as all kink is not to everyone's liking, so are opinions.

You know, opinions are like assholes; every one has one and not everyone wants yours; or, in your case, to give you ideas about you and yours.

I don't consider my reply to passive aggressive in any way, shape or form. I always err on the side of being more aggressive than passive in my dealings with internet message boards.

Have fun.

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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 2:24:41 PM   
Takeylarose


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From what I have read in your posts so far you seem to be more wrapped up in your own enjoyment and the pleasure that you derive from anal play..  I don't know the dynamics of your relationship with your sub, nor have I read your profile, but something that I haven't seen you address so far is how she feels about it.. Is this something that she is interested in as well or are you simply "using her" to fulfill long standing fantasies? You want her to "buy in" to anal play, because you enjoy it, what about her enjoyment?

Personally I have never been a huge fan of being on the "receiving end" of anal, I don't see the point in stretching or the desire to be used as a storage facility for "larger" objects,  so it's hard for me to relate.




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RE: Goals for anal training... - 11/8/2010 3:17:09 PM   
ReginaMirus


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Madame4a

Hmmm... I have the feeling that you haven't found the right partner.. or it just isn't for you.. but I personally benefit from that sort of activity... what a marvelous way to exert dominance...

among several other billion things it can do...



Really? That's really what dominance is all about? Wouldn't that be better defined as TOPPING?

FTR, I'm honestly not opposed to anal play at all. I just have a problem with somehow tying it to dominance/submission, period...the implication being the penetrated always =submissive, the penetrator always =dominant. It still reinforces a patriarchal theme, and I for one am not a fan of perpetuating that myth.

Fuck. If this were true, then I could never enjoy PIV sex again, because the act itself would somehow be reducing my dominance by default.

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