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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/16/2010 4:39:22 PM

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you completely miss the point that the idea is to roll out this function to ALL AREAS OF SOCIETY.

sure it is.

Been to a NFL game recently?

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Good post. The idea is to also put this type of thing at malls- bus stations, to even have a mobile unit that circulates in public.

Where do you draw the line?

Congress is going to have hearings on this.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/16/2010 4:41:43 PM

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Fourth Amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/16/2010 4:44:22 PM

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TSA Unveils Mobile Security Checkpoint Pilot Program with Maryland Transit Authority Hanover, Md. – The Transportation Security Administration (TSA), in partnership with the Maryland Transit Administration (MTA), today announced a Mobile Security Checkpoint (MSC) pilot program to screen MARC passengers and their bags for explosive material. Passenger screening will be conducted at the Dorsey Road MARC commuter rail station, April 4-28, 2006. Screening will occur every weekday for four weeks between 5 a.m. and 9 a.m. The MSC program is designed to determine the operational feasibility, effectiveness, and cost of commercially available screening technology installed in a mobile container. The results from the pilot will be used to determine in which environments this containerized checkpoint is suitable.
http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2006/press_release_04032006.shtm

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/16/2010 4:58:27 PM

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CBS poll finds 4 out of 5 Americans support the use of advanced imaging technology at airports nationwide

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That is NOT what Alex says!

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/16/2010 6:02:28 PM

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you completely miss the point that the idea is to roll out this function to ALL AREAS OF SOCIETY.

sure it is.

Been to a NFL game recently?

Pat Down Searches at NFL Games – Bye Bye Fourth Amendment

Motion for Injunction to Prevent NFL Pat-Down

Good post. The idea is to also put this type of thing at malls- bus stations, to even have a mobile unit that circulates in public.

Where do you draw the line?

Congress is going to have hearings on this.

Big difference between pat downs that have been going on for at least 8 years and the TSA rules for those who refuse to be scanned

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/16/2010 6:03:28 PM

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CBS poll finds 4 out of 5 Americans support the use of advanced imaging technology at airports nationwide (cbsnews.com)

That is NOT what Alex says!

Because Alex is panders to the lowest common denominator of intelligence.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/16/2010 6:56:07 PM

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Better still, unless you're a business traveler, just drive where ever you're about to fly to (unless its overseas). Let's face it, the airlines are making way too much money as it is, and they're not bringing any sanity into the debate on behalf of the consumers, therefore, let a few airlines go out of business.

1) Not practical for trips over about 8 hours away. Trust me, I drive for stuff up to 6.
2) Some employers won't allow it.
3) If airlines were making so much money, you wouldn't have a few in bankruptcy with almost all posting negative earnings.

My most frequent trips are in excess of 850 miles each way, and it's not uncommon for me to fly more than 2000 miles each way. Few employers will be happy with you taking extra days just to drive to a meeting.

And no, hunk, it's not like getting into a microwave oven. Not even close.

Willbeur, the X-ray machines do not show internal cavities. This is a backscatter system, not a transmission system. That's how they keep the power levels down. It's similar in approach to the TeraHertz microwave backscattering systems.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/16/2010 7:20:50 PM

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I am glad that Alex brought this issue forward.

God Bless Alex Jones.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 1:25:21 AM

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It's still invasive.

At some point we have to decide whether we want safety at all costs regardless of the personal intrusion.

Pretty much as soon as you come on airport property you are voluntarily surrendering yourself for arrest until such time as you are screened ,checked and are released. You might not technically be under arrest but you might as well be.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 5:27:48 AM

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If pat downs or scanners are too intrusive we could slow the whole system down even more by implementing El Al type security measures instead.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 6:39:59 AM

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If pat downs or scanners are too intrusive we could slow the whole system down even more by implementing El Al type security measures instead.

That is what is happening- planned.

I dread that this search thing is planned for use in all areas of society. What do they think we are, Israel?

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 6:52:15 AM

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TSA Hit With Lawsuits As Revolt Explodes The TSA has been hit with a number of lawsuits as the revolt against Big Sis, naked body scanners, and invasive groping measures explodes, with one case involving a woman who had her blouse pulled down in full public view by TSA goons who then proceeded to laugh and joke about her exposed breasts.

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Video: Owen J.J. Stone exposes the horror of TSA in his pants Frequent flier Owen J.J. Stone appears on the Alex Jones Show to discuss the invasive new pat down procedures that included a TSA agent groping inside his ‘baggy’ or loose pants.

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George Soros also profiting off controversial new TSA scanners Be sure and read Tim Carney’s Examiner column today on the politically-connected lobby for the controversial new TSA scanners that are upsetting airline employees and travelers everywhere.

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Sacramento Traveler Outraged At TSA Goon Who Put Hands Up Her Skirt A 43-year-old wife and mother who insists she’s no prude was “stunned and shocked” by the pat-down she received by a security screener Tuesday at Sacramento International Airport.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 7:00:02 AM

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Amid airport anger, GOP takes aim at screening | Washington ExaminerNov 15, 2010 ... Did you know that the nation's airports are not required to have ... The 2001 law creating the TSA gave airports the right to opt out of the TSA program ... in which five airports were allowed to use private contractors. ...
www.washingtonexaminer.com/.../Amid-airport-anger_-GOP-takes-aim-at-screening-1576602-108259869.html - Cached

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 11:17:56 AM

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What makes this all so sad, is that the terrorists will find a way.

Yeah, like walking across the south border, along with dozens of illegals every day of the week.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 12:36:55 PM

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If pat downs or scanners are too intrusive we could slow the whole system down even more by implementing El Al type security measures instead.

I have hear they are are no joke. I think they are much smaller though. Using their tactics would make flying a nightmare. Well even more of one. I have hear they have anti-missile technology on their planes. They have a whole different set of problems to fight.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 2:34:33 PM

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101117/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_airport_security

Associated Press Eileen Sullivan, Associated Press – Wed Nov 17, 11:29 am ET WASHINGTON – The head of the Transportation Security Administration is acknowledging that the new pat-downs are more invasive than what travelers were used to in the past.
He went thru it so all is good.

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 2:38:46 PM

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Fuck me, quit whining. I think there are plenty of people on 9/11 that would have appreciated a bit more thorough search. Just sayin

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 4:36:56 PM

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Fuck me, quit whining. I think there are plenty of people on 9/11 that would have appreciated a bit more thorough search. Just sayin

On 9/11 box cutters were an allowable item so it would not have made a difference.

The question is how far do we want to take security measures?

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 7:45:29 PM

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They could hijack with box cutters because the old modus operandi was to just do what they said, keep 'em mellow, and get on the ground.

Nowadays the whole plane would tackle a hijacker in the twinkle of an eye, even if the guys had a chainsaw!

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RE: UPDATE: TSA to investigate resister... - 11/17/2010 8:00:50 PM

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Fuck me, quit whining. I think there are plenty of people on 9/11 that would have appreciated a bit more thorough search. Just sayin

On 9/11 box cutters were an allowable item so it would not have made a difference.

The question is how far do we want to take security measures?

I Think they had a guy over in Saudi arabia blow himself up with an anal bomb. If we get an attempt like that you know what that will mean. I figure feces and explosives inside an ass might look similar on a scanner. So for your comfort bring the lube of your choice for the enhanced search.

Do you hear the snap-back of those surgical gloves?

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