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M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 3:59:44 PM   
kisshou


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Status: offline 		Would you consider it to be a Master/slave relationship if the Master told the slave up front that it will not be forever?



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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:01:36 PM   
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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:02:44 PM   
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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:09:17 PM   
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Would you consider it to be a Master/slave relationship if the Master told the slave up front that it will not be forever?






No

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:12:34 PM   
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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:13:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have known someone that did this took a temp collar ... Now in My book its foolish .. why take a velcro collar?

found out he was lieing anyway .. like all velcro collars .. he searched out other Mistress's .. sucked others cocks... and served many while supposedly collared ... he knew the Mistress's were moving from NY to Fla. .. why he took it for only a short time .. I would have NO idea.

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:15:35 PM   
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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:16:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dear kisshou, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I can only speak for myself however, I would wish all my M/s relationships to be forever.  But, all relationships require both Master/Mistress-slaves to communicate and take their time before jumping into a relationship.  One thing I do find most important to me, is that a slave is around me when I am sick or injured.  That way they see me at my worst and not always at my best. 

I also would like to add, that some relationships change where one hits a glass ceiling and one still is growing.  Sometimes it won't be forever as people change and or death and or circumstances beyond the Master/Mistress's control force a physical parting.  People of my age group are starting to be the ones finding their lives changed due to family/relatives needs for care giving. 

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:16:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes. In the literal sense, nothing lasts forever. We all will die someday and there is no guarantee that there is and after life or that you'll both meet up there when you die.

But I've heard of Limited Contract Slavery before. I think it's a good idea so that the Master and slave can get a feel for each other. If everything remains honky-dory, they renew the contract. If not, they part ways. No harm, no foul. Not a bad system.

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:18:28 PM   
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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:22:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

what is forever?



I agree with that question.  Having no M/s experience, I am almost sure my first few relationships will not be "forever" (hence the "first few".) 

It would depend on the reason for it being temporary.  If it was someone who only wanted kicks for a week, go for it.  Without me though. 

If you met someone, you clicked really well, everything was perfect, but you knew they were going to move away for whatever reason in a few months, would you want to be with this person anyway?  Why not take a "velcro" collar at that time, enjoy the time you have and be in a commited relationship while it lasts?  If both know from the start it can't be forever, it's up to you, but it is honest.

I would happily be collared for the short term if it everything else worked out.

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:25:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		well yes because this happened to me....when i first "discovered" the lifestyle i was fairly young and was extrememly "niave"...my mistakes led me to the conclusion that Ds was not for me, i met my last Dom through a friend and our "relationship" was going to be that of friends so that he could help me (in non sexual ways) to better understand myself and the lifestyle...well it turned into more than friends, but we had/have very different views on some pretty key factors in regards to Ds (and i know many will think that because i didn't "convert" my way of thinking to his, that meant he wasn't really a "Dom" and you are entitled to your opinion)  but i/we always knew that it wouldn't last forever but that didn't mean that i was any less submissive towards him in the years that we were together....we are still close as friends, and i will always appreciate what he taught me and the relationship that we had...

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:26:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		No one can guarantee anything. They just can't. Chaos - that's how the world and universe are shaped. At most one can offer commitment, perhaps love - but that's about it. Personally, I favor commitment over love, love being vastly overrated.

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:27:11 PM   
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Love the one your with - etc etc... We're here for a good time ... Not a long time..

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:33:12 PM   
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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:33:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44
But I've heard of Limited Contract Slavery before. I think it's a good idea so that the Master and slave can get a feel for each other. If everything remains honky-dory, they renew the contract. If not, they part ways. No harm, no foul. Not a bad system.


An ongoing agreement clause to review and renew an M/s contract is essentail in my eyes. It's the only way I'd enter one.

If I knew, going in, that it would be temporary, then no, I probably wouldn't do it. Obviously there isn't enough of a bond there if one, or both parties, already plan to walk away.

But, I wouldn't knock someone else for agreeing to it, as long as they had a future plan in mind for when the contract ended. Could be financial and/or emotional suicide.

Cin

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:34:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have served 3 Masters over the course of my life. All were 24/7 live in relationships...for a total of 25 years when combined. Each time I agreed to that level of servitude, I can assure you that I was certain it would be forever...and so did they. Unfortunately, however, life may have a different plan for us....for one reason or another. That is just how life happens sometimes regardless of our plans or intentions. If I should meet someone who I felt that type of connection with again, I would surely make the same decision....but only if and when I felt that forever was the destination we both had within our sights..

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:34:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: unquenchable

Forever does not always happen.


Agreed.
And yet I think that a relationship entered into without the intention of sticking together through thick and through thin, working through the hard times as well as enjoying the good times, is doomed to fail.
There will be greater chance of longevity if the agreement is that we don't go jetting off to our seperate ways when things get tough.
I'll agree that forever doesn't always happen, I am myself divorced after a 20 year marriage.  Something I never ever thought would happen to me.  And yet I'm a better and stronger person for making the decision.
But i also know that FOR me (i do not attempt to speak for all slaves) the security of knowing that Master is committed to me, through the good as well as the bad, is what enables me to give Him all of me.  How could i surrender my will, my well-being, my life into the hands of one who would not commit to me completely?
Again, this is my experience, your actual mileage may vary.

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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 4:49:10 PM   
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RE: M/s but not forever - 4/28/2006 5:00:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Vancouver_cinful
An ongoing agreement clause to review and renew an M/s contract is essentail in my eyes. It's the only way I'd enter one.

I know this is splitting hairs, cin, but this statement above signifies to me that the agreement is temporary and that you would enter into it. Then you put this:

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If I knew, going in, that it would be temporary, then no, I probably wouldn't do it. Obviously there isn't enough of a bond there if one, or both parties, already plan to walk away.

Cin

And it totally contradicted the first statement. like I said, it's just splitting hairs.

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