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Hillwilliam -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 12:21:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Noone can steal like Haitians and Somalians! One would have thought that by your age you would have heard of the u.s. congress...thieves without par. I think Mugabe has them all beat.

thompsonx -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 12:27:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Noone can steal like Haitians and Somalians! One would have thought that by your age you would have heard of the u.s. congress...thieves without par. Thompson, true, they're stealing $45 Billion of our money each year now for "foreign Aid!" How much have they stolen for the adventure in the sandbox? How much did they steal for the bail out? $45 billion is just lunch money in comparison

Elisabella -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 12:32:38 PM)
And by "steal" you mean "allocate funds that they are authorized to allocate to things that you disapprove of"?

Moonhead -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 12:33:37 PM)
It's also a nonsense figure. US Foreign Aid spending rarely tops a billion and a half. Still, poopey isn't a man to let facts stand in his way, is he?

Elisabella -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 12:43:23 PM)
~$20B is a good estimate. http://www.cfr.org/publication/13248/transforming_us_foreign_aid.html#p7

Moonhead -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 12:51:56 PM)
Still sounds a bit high, to me. I think the halfwit has got his 45 billion figure from the loans Israel has had waived since 1974.

Elisabella -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 12:57:46 PM)
According to this site, the US gives the highest dollar amount of foreign aid but one of the lowest percentages of their budget. Also the vast majority of aid money spent is spent within the US, buying surplus food from American farmers and other aid supplies from American companies. So foreign aid likely does more to help the US economy than the aid-receiving country's economy.

Moonhead -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:01:39 PM)
Shush! You don't want poopey to hear you talking like that!

popeye1250 -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:10:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella According to this site, the US gives the highest dollar amount of foreign aid but one of the lowest percentages of their budget. Also the vast majority of aid money spent is spent within the US, buying surplus food from American farmers and other aid supplies from American companies. So foreign aid likely does more to help the US economy than the aid-receiving country's economy. Instead of pissing that money away on foreign aid just have a $45 billion dollar lottery every year! Award 50,000 Cadillacs and 50,000 Lincolns to the Taxpayers! And lots of cash prizes! That'll really get the economy going! And people who win the cars might like them so well that they don't buy foreign cars anymore. That money belongs to the Taxpayers, not to the govt.

Moonhead -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:14:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella According to this site, the US gives the highest dollar amount of foreign aid but one of the lowest percentages of their budget. Also the vast majority of aid money spent is spent within the US, buying surplus food from American farmers and other aid supplies from American companies. So foreign aid likely does more to help the US economy than the aid-receiving country's economy. Instead of pissing that money away on foreign aid just have a $45 billion dollar lottery every year! Award 5,000 Cadillacs and 5,000 Lincolns to the Taxpayers! And lots of cash prizes! That money belongs to the Taxpayers, not to the govt. You still haven't cited a source for this 45 billion figure you're waving about. Do you have one? And I'm sorry, but as soon as money is taxed, then it belongs to the government. That's what taxation means.

Elisabella -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:15:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 That money belongs to the Taxpayers, not to the govt. How do you figure that? I'm pretty sure that once taxes are collected, it's the government's money.

thompsonx -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:15:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella According to this site, the US gives the highest dollar amount of foreign aid but one of the lowest percentages of their budget. Also the vast majority of aid money spent is spent within the US, buying surplus food from American farmers and other aid supplies from American companies. So foreign aid likely does more to help the US economy than the aid-receiving country's economy. It would appear that he hates america and the americans who would starve were it not for the money they made selling their products to these people.

Moonhead -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:17:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 That money belongs to the Taxpayers, not to the govt. How do you figure that? I'm pretty sure that once taxes are collected, it's the government's money. Presumably if he's so opposed to government spending and taxation, he refused to accept any pay while he was working for the coast guard.

mnottertail -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:17:55 PM)
I think he should refuse his retirement money.

Moonhead -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:20:01 PM)
And perhaps refuse to use the roads while he's at it. He certainly won't be phoning the Police if he has a break in as well.

Elisabella -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:28:33 PM)
fucking lol.

DomKen -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 1:44:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic So you say, Ken. As I recall, you claimed to have reviewed all of them yourself, and found nothing, within just a few hours of the story breaking. And yet, the perception of ethical corruption, coupled with an over reaching political agenda brought the whole thing down. We are now discussing that damage. Or have you become the denier, now? I read every email and reviewed the other documents. I found nothing and invited you to present the email or other document in those stolen that made your point. Instead of taking me up on it you presented a blog post with a carefully edited piece of an email. When I called you on your failure you vanished.

popeye1250 -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 2:43:00 PM)
Gee Ken,.....did you see the article in Yahoo today about that "summit" in Mexico and how the "U.N." (of course) wants to switch even more costs to Western countries and away from,.....(AHEM).....developing countries? If you're successful you get punished I guess. Well, the U.S. shouldn't have to pay anything now, we're so far in debt that we'll never get out of it. We're not a "rich country" anymore!

Musicmystery -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 3:52:48 PM)
quote: We're not a "rich country" anymore! Our GDP is twice that of China's. So how do you figure? Debt is high, yes. But it's been higher as a percentage of GDP (WWII). It is, after all an almost $15 trillion dollar economy.

rulemylife -> RE: Getting back to the basics of saving the planet (11/29/2010 4:02:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Good thinking Popeye! Let's start starving people. We already are, if not sending aid=starving people. We are starving millions of people a year, in every single country on this planet, if not intervening makes us culpable. As I type this, we just killed an elderly grandmother in Denmark who ran out of cat food. How can you live with yourself? Uhhhhhhhhhhhh...........well........................I'm hoping that was directed at Popeye, otherwise you have a severe problem recognizing sarcasm. Especially when it is so obvious.

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