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Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 2:18:39 AM   
Atropos19


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Status: offline 		Quoting this from another thread:

"I find it interesting that male domination brings with it - more often than not - the expectation of growth, protection and nurture while femdom is almost exclusively about exploitation, denigration and humiliation."

Is this true?  What does everyone think of this?
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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 2:24:38 AM   
RapierFugue


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ORIGINAL: Atropos19

Quoting this from another thread:

"I find it interesting that male domination brings with it - more often than not - the expectation of growth, protection and nurture while femdom is almost exclusively about exploitation, denigration and humiliation."

Is this true?  What does everyone think of this?


I don't think it's universally true and I think whoever said it was wrong.

There. That was easy. What did I win?

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 2:32:50 AM   
Focus50


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Status: offline 		Well I can relate to the male dom virtues listed but never had any reason to consider what does it for fem doms. Go figger....

But ok, it's not like you can miss the number of "pro domme" threads or comments that regularly pop up. Some might say prostitution with props - doesn't exactly conjure up "Maryanne" comparisons (Gilligans Island). <shrugs>, NMP....

Focus.

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 3:11:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are a lot of bitter malesubs, and the quote sounds like it came from one of them.






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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 3:28:28 AM   
BonesFromAsh


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Status: offline 		I'd be curious to know which thread the OP's quote is from and who said it.

No, I don't believe the statement to be true.

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 4:16:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like bullshit to me. Are you sure the guy who told you this wasn't just pissed off because he couldn't get laid?

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 4:18:33 AM   
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This stuff used to bother me. I used to get defensive.

Not so much now. Think that about women if you like, but I know it doesn't bear any resemblance to my relationships.

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 4:44:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Atropos19

Quoting this from another thread:

"I find it interesting that male domination brings with it - more often than not - the expectation of growth, protection and nurture while femdom is almost exclusively about exploitation, denigration and humiliation."

Is this true?  What does everyone think of this?



I disagree with it as I tend to do with many generalisations. 

Are you able to link to the post in the thread it came from so that we can understand the context of it please?

I guess the author was basing this on their experience.  Was this experience online or in real life? How many male and female Dominants are they friends with to know that this is their dynamic and to base their opinion on?
Are they including pro-Dommes in the mix which may skew the results for the females?  etc etc you get the drift


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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 7:50:30 AM   
Elisabella


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Are they including pro-Dommes in the mix which may skew the results for the females?  etc etc you get the drift



Not including, more like confusing the two.

It was a thread about pro Dommes and money slaves and exploitation fetishes. He extrapolated.

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 8:18:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: wandersalone

Are they including pro-Dommes in the mix which may skew the results for the females?  etc etc you get the drift



Not including, more like confusing the two.

It was a thread about pro Dommes and money slaves and exploitation fetishes. He extrapolated.

ah ok, I had thought it may be something like that


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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 8:22:02 AM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: Atropos19

Quoting this from another thread:

"I find it interesting that male domination brings with it - more often than not - the expectation of growth, protection and nurture while femdom is almost exclusively about exploitation, denigration and humiliation."

Is this true?  What does everyone think of this?


No, I don't believe it to be true.  The latter part of the statement is more the angle that is perpetuated by porn.  That's the kind of stuff that sells, so that is what is out there and what a lot of people who don't have much real experience are exposed to. 

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:14:30 AM   
Atropos19


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Status: offline 		It's a direct quote... I didn't "extrapolate" anything.  Here's the URL... it's post #22, I think.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3471172/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#3486633

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:24:41 AM   
DarkSteven


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Status: offline 		Atropos, you quoted Awareness. Despite how he phrased it to sound like an unquestionable fact, he was merely giving his opinion. As you can see, his opinion is not universally held.

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:24:59 AM   
myotherself


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Atropos19

Quoting this from another thread:

"I find it interesting that male domination brings with it - more often than not - the expectation of growth, protection and nurture while femdom is almost exclusively about exploitation, denigration and humiliation."

Is this true?  What does everyone think of this?



I disagree. My mail inbox would prove that there are many male doms out there who are looking purely for exploitation, denigration and humiliation.

Does that have to be a bad thing, though? I'm sure for every kink there is a kinkee...

Fortunately from my personal perspective there are many male doms who want to do the nurture thing.

I also know in r/l many female dommes who similarly want the love/nurture/play kind of relationship.

I'd say, in general, that generalisations ain't worth the screenspace they're written upon




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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:36:16 AM   
jujubeeMB


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Status: offline 		Don't know much about Dommes from first hand experience, but I do know that they tend to be human beings with complex needs/desires and motivations towards their subs, so...yeah, I very much doubt that's remotely true.

And not all Doms are nurturing and protective. Mine is, but plenty are more into the "Me Dom, you whore who shuts up and does as she's told" thing.

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:36:51 AM   
Atropos19


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Status: offline 		I realize not everyone shares the opinion.  In fact, the whole purpose of my post was to *determine* how widespread the opinion may or may not be.

Peace.

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:40:00 AM   
myotherself


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Status: offline 		I'm perfectly at peace, thank you.

You asked a question, I answered it honestly. I'm not sure why you seem to be reading more into my post than is there?

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:47:45 AM   
LaTigresse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Atropos19

Quoting this from another thread:

"I find it interesting that male domination brings with it - more often than not - the expectation of growth, protection and nurture while femdom is almost exclusively about exploitation, denigration and humiliation."

Is this true?  What does everyone think of this?



No it is not true.

I think it is total bullshit.

Better now?


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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:50:21 AM   
Atropos19


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Status: offline 		In point of fact, that comment was intended more as a response to DarkSteven's post.  But I thought it worked pretty well generally, so I didn't think to specifically address it to him.  (Not really sure how to do that anyway).

What I was trying to say was, my interest was caught by a comment that someone made in another thread, so I posted it here in an attempt to see whether that view was widely held (or just what people had to say about it in general).  The vibe seemed to be getting a bit argumentative, though, so I wanted to make it clear that I wasn't attempting to provoke anyone by saying it.

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RE: Difference btw Male/Female Doms... - 12/1/2010 9:51:26 AM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: Atropos19

I realize not everyone shares the opinion.  In fact, the whole purpose of my post was to *determine* how widespread the opinion may or may not be.

Peace.


Try it like this.

How many female Dominants do you know in real life?

Now, from that number, how many would you say fit the description that was given above?

Mathematically from those two numbers, what is the percent of female Dominants that accurately reflect what you describe?


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