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Firebirdseeking -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/4/2010 4:41:12 PM)

For years and years, something was missing in my relationships with men, including in a 24 year marriage.  I had no words for what it was.  None.  It was a "feeling".  I responded to a profile on a vanilla site to a "Sir C.."; I had no idea.  I thought he was simply a gentleman.   : )      Then he sent me some erotic, D/s BDSM literature.  First I was outraged. (This all seems pretty amusing now).  Then I calmed down and realized it was erotic literature, and not pornography.  Then I realized something went "ping".   I started exploring. I found Takeninhand.com, which is often maligned here, but it sure helped me to understand the dynamics of dominance and submission, and that was truly helpful.  I realized that what was missing in my life was that dynamic; a man in control, who could shoulder the responsibilities in a relationship, direct, lead.  I am a strong leader myself and needed someone stronger. A local dominant made himself available to me to answer my questions and dispell some of my fears.  I am very grateful to both Sirs. The rest echoes Lally's post.  




CelticPrince -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/4/2010 8:45:08 PM)

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I don't want to have to make all the decisions. And I can't turn decision making over to someone who doesn't make great decisions with less angst than they take from me. Oh yeah, and I wanted to be tied up and have great sex.

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Des

Delegation is an art, and of course so is great sex!

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/4/2010 8:47:59 PM)

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After nine months of hard corps breath control, someone slapped me on the ass, and did knife play combined with CBT and bondage a day later. I was hooked ever since.

Seriously, it was just a stumbling upon information that people existed who understood my basic makeup. I just thought I was a psychological aberration, kind of a freak. I found that there were people who connected with the things I enjoyed, understood it, and many more like them. It was in my case, by accident, because I thought stuff about whips, chains, dominance, submission was pretty much for the movies and magazines. I also felt there was something different about myself, and found there were others such as me in my makeup as a person.

It's been quite some time now since I discovered this world, and the path has strayed here and there, sometimes not being walked upon for stretches, but at the same time, it continues, and I learn not only about this world of BDSM, but also about myself. I love the ever changing dynamics of the self exploration. It isn't a day to day, every second and every breath taken kind of way of living, but it is indeed a different way. Where I started is no where near where I am now. Not in a better way, mind you, just evolved. How I view the world we live in, and how I view the world of wiitwd.

shiver,

Acomplete and personal reply.........thanks for your input.

CP

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CelticPrince -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/5/2010 9:58:46 AM)

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FR

Really? We're having this thread again?

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3312057

Funny how all these different stimuli lead you to ask exactly the same question, CP...


VC,

While pondering who FR might be and why your comments were directed to shiver;I decided to reply to them as you did mention CP.
True there is a linkage to the post that you point to........are you now taking the responsibilities of Lucky Albatross? she was so good at these things!

Now to the point of the post, Each day it seems that CM brings in 40 or 50 new folks and an unknown percentage of them may take the time to veview the boards and in my view to exclude from posting subjects that have been posted prior who soon relagate the boards to zero input. Surely as the new Custodian of Records you might agree with that premise.

In any case I regret the inconvenience the post has brought you.

CP




crazyml -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/5/2010 1:07:23 PM)

Ahem... FR stands for "Fast Reply" - which means that you shouldn't presume that the post is a reply to the person who posted last. Surprised that a four batter doesn't know that.




TreasureKY -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/5/2010 1:15:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

You know Treasure, a true sub....

(god, if you could see how I am struggling not to burst out in laughter as I write that)


Well, I should hope so, Jeff!  [;)]

But everyone knows I'm not a true sub, anyway.  [:)]

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

~chuckles~  I hope I have made myself more clear, treasure.  As Maam Jay stated above, imposing order...structure...onto and into chaos appealed to me also more and more as I realized that not only was my marriage unequal but because of that inequality, it was CHAOTIC.


You have, CD.  [:D]  Believe me, I do understand that desire.   I also agree that having your relationship taken hostage by the unreasonable behavior of your partner can be more than a little frustrating. 




CelticPrince -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/5/2010 8:17:08 PM)

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Much of what Focus has said above is what I have described before in similar threads.

I grew weary of "equal" really meaning giving in to what she thought. I grew "weary" of the pouting that occurred when I did not. This is why I think it is important to deal with issues rather than always just let things flow. Humanity and what people were before they entered into D/s must always be taken into consideration but tis also why I do not do well with submissives whose definition of submission seems to strike closer to the definition of today's "equality-based, vanilla woman".

"settles in for the flak I am going to get for not explaining myself better and offers up this explanation": I have to get back to work.


CD,

A clear explaination of a Creative Dominant that know what he wants!!!!! Good Fortune

CP




daddysprop247 -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/5/2010 8:38:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

This is a ponderance for all that consider themseves in the D/s path and extends to all of the sub cultures of B?D and S/m..
Essentially for those that have been on the path for awhile...........what was the core attraction that brought here.....Not CM but the path of D/s? And the same question to our many relatively newcomers.

What causes the question to come forth is the increase of new folks that include some form of sexual activety folded into their nick such as m"analsub4you" etc. That is a made up example and does not refer to anyone in particular. Laughs.........candor is expected here folks as it may help lurkers to participate more in the boards.............and perhaps breing so candid comments from the "D" sides who generally stay silent on the boards.

CP


what brought me to D/s? good fortune. the good fortune to come across someone, very casually, who after hearing me complain about my life for the umpteenth time said these words: "there's something i've been wanting to tell you for a while now. don't take this the wrong way, but i think you're a submissive." that was the first time i had ever heard the term that way "a" submissive. but it instantly rung a bell. one little word explained so many things about my personality, my behavior, and many of the circumstances (unfortunately a great deal of them negative) which had occurred in my life.

from very early childhood, i'd always had a very difficult time saying no to others. it was almost physically painful for me to disappoint anyone. i was always doing the homework of other children, giving away money, etc. i was always extremely quiet and painfully shy. when i became older these qualities only intensified. i found it impossible to take any kind of leadership role, even when i technically had the skills to do so. it was always much more comfortable for me to be far in the background, doing the heavy "grunt work" without recognition. when it came to sex i just didn't say no, no matter what my own personal wishes may have been. so i developed a reputation of being "easy," a slut, etc. once i was singled out as a target, there were even more men approaching me, doing whatever they wished to me, because they knew i would not stop them. i was raped many times. and many more times i just went on autopilot, my mind and spirit leaving the building while whatever went on with my physical self. it led to a lifetime of severe depression and dismally low self-esteem, zero sense of worth.

so this is the sort of thing i would complain about to this casual acquaintance. and i am forever grateful to him just for using that one powerful word: submissive. i was subservient, very compliant, driven to please. it fit. then i did some research online and came across some websites which focused on submissive women and Dominant men. sex/sexual expression was not a focus...if it had been i would have clicked off instantly. no, there were people discussing innate personalities and things like the natural order. it was totally fascinating, and totally awesome. all my life i had assumed the way i was signified some sort of horrible defect. and i was certain that not only would i never find love, but that i would never even find a man who would see me as anything more than a series of holes to fuck. i had only had one boyfriend, and it was a long distance relationship so we saw each other rarely. and even with that, he was with me more out of some sense of duty to "fix" me than anything else.

but now i saw that maybe, just maybe, there was a place for me in this world. i wasn't the only woman out there like this. not only that, there were actually men in the world who wanted women like me. who found something valuable and beautiful in us. it gave me hope, hope not just for a relationship but for LIFE. because frankly before then i didn't care a bit whether i lived or died.






dreamerdreaming -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/6/2010 12:19:36 AM)

D/s is a part of Me. I didn't "turn to" it. It IS me.

Not all of me, but it is a central part- around which everything else fits.




CelticPrince -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/6/2010 10:04:36 AM)

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I think what brought me to D/s was a desire to establish -order- on Chaos. I will be frank. I am a Chaos Magnet -- and yet, I have tended to be drawn to trying to balance Chaos with structure, despite my own chaotic (and subversive... and anarchistic) tendencies. Add to that a love for protocol (as I develop, it turns out that this is more akin to French Restoration, Revolutionary, and Napoleanic culture/protocol) and some pretty hinky fetishes (for example, back when I started out in all of this, the only areas to meet heavily inked, pierced, and scarified people were 'on the fringes')... and you have someone who was well suited to the D/s end of BDSM.

I think this is where it gets confusing for some folk. You see, sexual behavior was never the draw for me when it came to D/s... not that I didn't acknowledge the sexual aspects -- sexuality is a natural expression in much of human behavior, and D/s is no different -- however, I was already well established with a sexual identity, so I didn't need D/s to justify, identify, or express my sexual self... so sexual expression (and even sexual -activity-) isn't a big part of how I represent myself in terms of D/s. It really is more about order, protocol, and the opportunity to participate in and enjoy some of the activities that are still too... intense... for the day-to-day world.

Calla


Call,

Damn woman.....it seems that I have a mirror sister! Great post Calla and thanks for your input.

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/6/2010 7:25:36 PM)

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And hey, I don't mind doing this thread again for the benefits of newbies who are not sure who or where they are. My key message to them is "Keep an open mind while you explore this!"


MaamJay,

CP




wittynamehere -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/6/2010 7:46:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
what was the core attraction that brought you on the path of D/s?

I don't see it as a path at all. I wasn't "brought" here, either. I'm the way I am because of a combination of my genetics and my life experiences. This is who I am, always will be. Not a path, journey, experience, or kink. It's me.

(And I don't know why people can't seem to get that. There's a "why are you on this path?" thread every second day around here!)




anniezz338 -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/6/2010 8:13:57 PM)

I was actually thinking about it today, about my past vanilla relationships. It would start great and go for a while but they always catered to me. Where do you want to go? What do you want to do? What do you want to buy? Any disagreements they would always give in to what I wanted and just followed along.

And the more they did that, the more bored, frustrated, and uncontent I became. Maybe that's why my first "love of my life" became that. He didn't let me get away with that chit...lol. I'd get the "look". uh oh. We were together the longest, 10 years.... It's was very telling when I thought about it, oh me of little to no experience...lol.

But I think I might have hit on something.







subinlife -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/6/2010 8:40:32 PM)

Sheer luck brought me to this lifestyle. A friend pointed me to Alt as a place to check out what we had talked about.
 
I always thought I was born in the wrong era. All I have ever wanted to do was please others.
Do for them and see that they had all they wanted.
I have always bowed to the choices the men in my life have made.
But I was also always looking for more from my life.
I knew what I was but didn't have a name for it.
 
This life fits me and what I need and want in my life.
It is like I have finally come home.
 




CelticPrince -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/7/2010 1:54:24 AM)

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Candidly speaking, while I don't exactly see it as a path, I turned to D/s because of sexual need: it's the only sort of experience I've ever had or fantasized about that arouses me. I learned later that there are other gratifications that accompany it, but if sexual arousal (the satisfaction is mostly immaterial to me) weren't somewhere in the equation, then being someone's slave would be meaningless for me. I eroticize some rather... "off the beaten path" things though. For instance, intense selflessness and sacrifice are extremely erotic to me. If born in another time, I might have made an awesome, if somewhat unconventional, martyr. ;)


CR,

The "path" is simply my generic term for the lifestyle. Your candid and clear comments are appreciated and I am hopeful that is might well encourage others to break the surface.

Thanks for your input.

CP




humptiedumptie -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/7/2010 2:40:47 AM)

In my case it was curiosity




CelticPrince -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/7/2010 11:44:21 AM)

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BDSM arouses me mentally and physically. Vanilla sex does not. It's that simple.

KK


kk,

short and to the point; as well as candid. viva la simularity.

thanks for your input.

CP




YoungBlondeSlave -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/8/2010 10:31:47 AM)

i fell asleep on my vanilla boyfriend while we were having sex, i realized there had to be more...he never noticed i fell asleep.
i ended up becoming an extremely sexually frustrated girl perusing porn and sort of discovered it and decided i had to learn more about it...and i love it all.

Also, when i was little and playing cops and robbers or cowboys and indians, i always wanted to be the one who got caught and tied up. [:D]




ranja -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/8/2010 11:31:35 AM)

My marriage was shit




NocturnalStalker -> RE: Core reasonings for turning to D/s (12/8/2010 2:29:56 PM)

Nothing gets me going more than a woman in leather.




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