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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Think back on many recent threads... how many of the men came in saying how wrong bdsm were and how awful those damaged dominant women were. Getting a few people coming to mind? They were submissive men in a real struggle and angry. There was something very wrong with what we did and yet each had a profile looking for it. So this one has started this profile today... that doesn't mean he hasn't been here before and was looking.

A dominant that doesn't understand dominance and thinks it could be abusive may struggle, but how many of them do you see struggling on the boards and trying hard to prove something? I say Steve is a submissive in denial. I'd stake a pinky finger on it. lol

Steve, give it up... you can't change anyone or anything. Thinking we are this way because we don't have the energy or will power to change... is as faulty as your other concepts. You haven't a clue what we are each like. You are assuming a great deal, just as I am assuming you are a submissive in denial. (But I would bet money I am correct about you.)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Think back on many recent threads... how many of the men came in saying how wrong bdsm were and how awful those damaged dominant women were. Getting a few people coming to mind? They were submissive men in a real struggle and angry. There was something very wrong with what we did and yet each had a profile looking for it. So this one has started this profile today... that doesn't mean he hasn't been here before and was looking.

A dominant that doesn't understand dominance and thinks it could be abusive may struggle, but how many of them do you see struggling on the boards and trying hard to prove something? I say Steve is a submissive in denial. I'd stake a pinky finger on it. lol

Steve, give it up... you can't change anyone or anything. Thinking we are this way because we don't have the energy or will power to change... is as faulty as your other concepts. You haven't a clue what we are each like. You are assuming a great deal, just as I am assuming you are a submissive in denial. (But I would bet money I am correct about you.)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

We should be taught not to need what we need? By the same standard, homosexual children should be taught to change. Or not?

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

There you go, you kind of backed up what I said 'lockit', yes i'd say pretty much ALL submissive men will feel angry, some will have it buried very well, some will show it and become aggressive at times. Anger is a healthy emotion, especially for males, it's just the bodys way of saying this is wrong for me. Emotionally intelligent people will realise this and do something about it.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Think back on many recent threads... how many of the men came in saying how wrong bdsm were and how awful those damaged dominant women were. Getting a few people coming to mind? They were submissive men in a real struggle and angry. There was something very wrong with what we did and yet each had a profile looking for it. So this one has started this profile today... that doesn't mean he hasn't been here before and was looking.

A dominant that doesn't understand dominance and thinks it could be abusive may struggle, but how many of them do you see struggling on the boards and trying hard to prove something? I say Steve is a submissive in denial. I'd stake a pinky finger on it. lol

Steve, give it up... you can't change anyone or anything. Thinking we are this way because we don't have the energy or will power to change... is as faulty as your other concepts. You haven't a clue what we are each like. You are assuming a great deal, just as I am assuming you are a submissive in denial. (But I would bet money I am correct about you.)

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

There you go, you kind of backed up what I said 'lockit', yes i'd say pretty much ALL submissive men will feel angry, some will have it buried very well, some will show it and become aggressive at times. Anger is a healthy emotion, especially for males, it's just the bodys way of saying this is wrong for me. Emotionally intelligent people will realise this and do something about it.

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

Many strong independent women secretly desire to be tamed by a strong man. As much as feminism tries it can;t reverse nature.

I am not making assumptions but you can also be one of those nasty cold women who has no respect for men but thinks she is strong and independent. Most strong men with self respect stay away from those types. To me the strongest women I know are also the nicest and kindest. They are strong because they are secure enough in themselves to not have to bring themselves up by bringing men down.

As for the tragic events, i'm doing a phd in pshychology, i guess that is tragic for some people but I enjoy it.

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

Yet your psychological perspective is woefully ancient.  Sexually repressed cokeheads are who you really want to take your cues from?  There are much better schools of thought out there.  All of them, when it comes to sexuality though, represent their own creator's unhealthy relationship with sex to have such an obsessive need to explain it.

Many strong, independent women want what you described.  Other strong, independent women do not and are unapologetic about it.  You, like so many others missed the point of feminism.  It wasn't about making a different choice in life, but about HAVING them.  Some will choose to step out of the kitchen and nurseries, others will traverse the two, and still others are just fine with the way things were. 

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Anger is especially healthy for MALES??

Yeah. There IS a reason psychology is a soft science!

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

People can only be helped if they want to, sadly for many they are in denial.

good luck lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

And you just lost all the sensibility points.  There is nothing to be saved from except in your own mind.

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

That's fine, however, theres a lot of people on here very young, some in their teens even, they should be taught the truth about the reasons they are attracted to bdsm, I can uderstand it an older person who maybe doesn't feel it's worth the effort to change, but people can be helped out of this way of life and it's important they should knwo that. Any person in their teens or 20's on here is in need of help and should be given it if they want it, i would genuinely fear for them.

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

All I'm saying is that for most of us, that's not really how we want it.

That's the first and only sensible thing you've said since you started this thread.  This way of living is alternative for a reason.  It's not the norm.  Most people couldn't or wouldn't want to hack it.  That is perfectly okay.  There are wonderful vanilla relationships for them to live happily ever after in.  And frighteningly, some of us (yes, the messed up perverts) actually function healthily in BOTH.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

Many strong independent women secretly desire to be tamed by a strong man. As much as feminism tries it can;t reverse nature.

I am not making assumptions but you can also be one of those nasty cold women who has no respect for men but thinks she is strong and independent. Most strong men with self respect stay away from those types. To me the strongest women I know are also the nicest and kindest. They are strong because they are secure enough in themselves to not have to bring themselves up by bringing men down.

As for the tragic events, i'm doing a phd in pshychology, i guess that is tragic for some people but I enjoy it.

Are you saying that a dominant woman cannot be nice and kind? That they cannot be strong because they are not secure in themselves? You haven't known any of the dominant woman I know! lol I don't bring my men down! I build them up if there is a need to, but most often there isn't a need to. I do not need to bring someone down to make myself bigger and better. Dominance that needs to put someone down to make themselves seem higher are not dominant's in my opinion.

You are very confused about what many of us do. You are getting ideas from porn or some of these people running around here that call men worms and act as if they are worthless. I would agree with you, there is a problem there, but they are not all dominant woman. Don't put us all into a box. I am not waiting for a dominant man... lol

I have a challenge for you. Meet me. Talk to me. Get to know me. You will find a sarcastic and humorous person, but you will also see a gentle heart and kindness. I am a normal, strong, independent woman and I bet if you would allow yourself to be calm for a bit, you would even like me on a personal level. Come on... try and prove me wrong.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

There you go, you kind of backed up what I said 'lockit', yes i'd say pretty much ALL submissive men will feel angry, some will have it buried very well, some will show it and become aggressive at times. Anger is a healthy emotion, especially for males, it's just the bodys way of saying this is wrong for me. Emotionally intelligent people will realise this and do something about it.

Then that is exactly what you should do.  Take yourself to a nice vanilla site and find a 'normal' non kinky woman to have a great healthy relationship with.  Forget whatever urges brought you here and you'll be just fine.

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

Yet your psychological perspective is woefully ancient.  Sexually repressed cokeheads are who you really want to take your cues from?  There are much better schools of thought out there.  All of them, when it comes to sexuality though, represent their own creator's unhealthy relationship with sex to have such an obsessive need to explain it.

Many strong, independent women want what you described.  Other strong, independent women do not and are unapologetic about it.  You, like so many others missed the point of feminism.  It wasn't about making a different choice in life, but about HAVING them.  Some will choose to step out of the kitchen and nurseries, others will traverse the two, and still others are just fine with the way things were. 

I'm not sexually repressed at all, i love my partner and tell her everyday, we have a healthy loving sex life.

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ORIGINAL: MisterMonster

Now I remember I don't post in threads like these too often. Sooo much reading!

Ok, let's talk about something that REALLY matters: Godzilla vs. Cloverfield Monster. Who would win?

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ORIGINAL: ownedbyPF

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

People can only be helped if they want to, sadly for many they are in denial.

good luck lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

And you just lost all the sensibility points.  There is nothing to be saved from except in your own mind.

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

That's fine, however, theres a lot of people on here very young, some in their teens even, they should be taught the truth about the reasons they are attracted to bdsm, I can uderstand it an older person who maybe doesn't feel it's worth the effort to change, but people can be helped out of this way of life and it's important they should knwo that. Any person in their teens or 20's on here is in need of help and should be given it if they want it, i would genuinely fear for them.

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

All I'm saying is that for most of us, that's not really how we want it.

That's the first and only sensible thing you've said since you started this thread.  This way of living is alternative for a reason.  It's not the norm.  Most people couldn't or wouldn't want to hack it.  That is perfectly okay.  There are wonderful vanilla relationships for them to live happily ever after in.  And frighteningly, some of us (yes, the messed up perverts) actually function healthily in BOTH.

I was reading this thread, thinking wow, this has to be one of the weirdest things I have seen on here. I was truly inspired to search for popcorn. Then I saw this. I think he just said you are in denial lovinget.... and I swear I laughed out loud so hard I almost choked. (If I had choked, would that have proven how dangerous BDSM really is for me??) I know You are deeply concerned lp that you are in denial ;)
It reminds me of a true conversation I once had after seeing someone for the first time in years at a family function!

Other person: God, you looked great, positively radiant.
Me: Thanks!
OP: I'm really concerned about you though.
Me: blink blink blink..whaaat?
OP: I think you need therapy, I think you only think you are happy, but you aren't really happy, and if you had therapy you would learn that you aren't really happy and then you would learn how to be happy.
ME: Whaaaaaaaaaat? So I feel really happy. Have everything I ever wanted, but I'm not actually happy, so I should be taught that I am miserable, to learn how to be happy, so I can jump through all those hoops just to be........ wait, what I already am? Happy? And you think I need therapy??!

My next words aren't worth repeating :)

Funny funny things people say!
~s

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
No, hold up here guys, there exists the same exact thing in the female side of submission, with the newbies (****NB: NEWBIES) and they cry, weep and gnash their teeth and rail at God, oh, why oh, why am I a submissive, and fight and piss and moan.

Not every submissive goes gentle into that goodnight.

Then sooner or later they (the greatest number of them anyway) lower themselves in that nice hot luxurious bath, and revel in it.

And of course there are a select few who rail for the rest of their lives (a certain submissive male in Ireland comes to mind) and harp and harp on the same old shit, rather than getting with whatever program is in there.

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ORIGINAL: MisterMonster

Now I remember I don't post in threads like these too often. Sooo much reading!

Ok, let's talk about something that REALLY matters: Godzilla vs. Cloverfield Monster. Who would win?