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LadyHibiscus -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 11:54:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Okay Steve, heaven forbid I argue with a guy still stuck. You win, you are so right. Have a good life.

I'm going with Godzilla because I don't know that other one and it is psychologically safer to go with what you know, dontcha know? Stay in a nice little safe box where you feel comfortable and don't have to challenge yourself or big bad monsters and the inside of that box proves that everyone has the same box and lives in one too. [8|]




You are wise! GOZILLA!!! (Holly even has the emo for him!)

Now, PLEASE stop feeding the troll or help me in my lame hijack attempt?




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 11:55:34 AM)

That Mistermonsters a hottie aint he?




steve2011 -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 11:57:48 AM)

Again your totally wrong i'm afraid
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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

sorry but thats way off the mark, people may put that down to a child being naughty or bad but its actually the child being healthy. When a child is born they cry when they are upset get angry when they are angry, express joy when they are happy and in a lot of cultures this is a problem for parents, if someone enters therapy, certainly the one I do, it is about freeing those emotions again.
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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: steve2011


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

There you go, you kind of backed up what I said 'lockit', yes i'd say pretty much ALL submissive men will feel angry, some will have it buried very well, some will show it and become aggressive at times. Anger is a healthy emotion, especially for males, it's just the bodys way of saying this is wrong for me. Emotionally intelligent people will realise this and do something about it.

Then that is exactly what you should do.  Take yourself to a nice vanilla site and find a 'normal' non kinky woman to have a great healthy relationship with.  Forget whatever urges brought you here and you'll be just fine.



No, hold up here guys, there exists the same exact thing in the female side of submission, with the newbies (****NB: NEWBIES) and they cry, weep and gnash their teeth and rail at God, oh, why oh, why am I a submissive, and fight and piss and moan.

Not every submissive goes gentle into that goodnight.

Then sooner or later they (the greatest number of them anyway) lower themselves in that nice hot luxurious bath, and revel in it.

And of course there are a select few who rail for the rest of their lives (a certain submissive male in Ireland comes to mind) and harp and harp on the same old shit, rather than getting with whatever program is in there.



That's called repression. Like when a child has unhealthy over bearing parents, he/she will cry, scream, yell, kick, basically do everything to stop it and keep his personality but usually the parent wins and the child gets grinded down and learns to hold in emotions, sadly its a pattern that takes a lot of work to stop.


No.  It's the final stage of grief.  It's called acceptance and it is the one that finally frees us to move on and begin to truly live again. 







You are wrong yet again.  You are intentionally replacing one set of emotions with a set you have determined to be correct.  As the therapist, you are in the position of authority and so you just must be right.  YOU are the one causing repression.  You are NOT the one healing it.  You see, good therapy lets people come to their own conclusion that are functional and healthy FOR THEM, not what you think they ought to be.  Therapy is about making peace with self, healing if needed and wanted, and living life on purpose instead of based off of some script that we don't even realize is there. 

Man!  They will give PhD's to anyone these days.








steve2011 -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:00:06 PM)

Going with love and healthy relationships is not being stuck in a box, i've tried not to judge people, if people wnat to stay this way then fine, but certainly the youngers ones on here need to know there's a way out if they wish to choose that option.
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Okay Steve, heaven forbid I argue with a guy still stuck. You win, you are so right. Have a good life.

I'm going with Godzilla because I don't know that other one and it is psychologically safer to go with what you know, dontcha know? Stay in a nice little safe box where you feel comfortable and don't have to challenge yourself or big bad monsters and the inside of that box proves that everyone has the same box and lives in one too. [8|]






MisterMonster -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:00:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

That Mistermonsters a hottie aint he?


You're goddamn right.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:00:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

That Mistermonsters a hottie aint he?



Saw him awhile back on Fet! He is a cutester! (of course I have shoes older than he is...but charm is charm!)




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:01:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: steve2011

Again your totally wrong i'm afraid



Says the young kid with his head in books...

There are no rights or wrongs in Psychology. Only theories.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:02:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MisterMonster

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

That Mistermonsters a hottie aint he?


You're goddamn right.



Whats your opinion of the Feeldoe?




lovingpet -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:03:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

Again your totally wrong i'm afraid



And yet you had absolutely no argument to back that up.  I know, it was probably hard to know where to start. 

Sooooooo..... I'll take Godzilla.  This is just based on the fact that I have never heard of the Cloverfield Monster thingie.






LadyPact -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:03:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
You are wise! GOZILLA!!! (Holly even has the emo for him!)

Now, PLEASE stop feeding the troll or help me in my lame hijack attempt?
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

That Mistermonsters a hottie aint he?

I could do so much better with a hijack attempt if said Monster happened to be submissive.  No offense to the current attempt, but I see that hair and I just keep thinking PULL!

I know, I know........  Shouldn't be thinking of those who identify as a Dominant in such a way, but I've got a real thing for long hair on men.





mnottertail -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:03:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

Going with love and healthy relationships is not being stuck in a box, i've tried not to judge people, if people wnat to stay this way then fine, but certainly the youngers ones on here need to know there's a way out if they wish to choose that option


You havent convinced me with anything substantiave that kicking the dogfuck out of a woman and ramming my dick down her throat is not loving and healthy.

I mean cmon, hows about some credible proof of that, rather than pronouncements and opinions?




ownedbyPF -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:03:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: steve2011

You really think submales or females are happy being humiliated Steven? Of course the dominants will be happy but the subs will not be, it's human nature, in ALL of them there will be something telling them thats wrong, some may admit it, some may not, but there is help out there guys.

good luck



Everything in me is saying... don't go there, don't say anything.. vote for Godzilla, and yet....
You are right, there was a time when something niggled at me, and I felt shame, and confusion! I spent a lot of years trying to sweep certain things about myself under the carpet because "they weren't right". Everyone said so. BUT then I got a grip and thought, hey, what if I just did this crazy thing called embracing who I am? What would happen if I did that? And then guess what? I became... omg! Happy! I have had many "healthy" vanilla relationships... and I was never ever satisfied. Happy and healthy and me being free to be and revel in who I am, without shame, and guilt, and feeling like there's something wrong, means a relationship that includes all kinds of tawdry things like humiliation.
~s... who is trying to get back on topic now by reaffirming her Godzilla vote! ;)




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:03:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19


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ORIGINAL: MisterMonster

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

That Mistermonsters a hottie aint he?


You're goddamn right.



Whats your opinion of the Feeldoe?




You know HE wouldn't go buying the largest one, sight unseen!




lovingpet -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:05:34 PM)

Missing the point that people here HAVE loving, healthy relationships is a box that you have yet to find your way out of.  And yes, you are judging.  It'd be nice if you had the guts to admit that you are.  That would be a refreshing moment of clarity and honesty.

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

Going with love and healthy relationships is not being stuck in a box, i've tried not to judge people, if people wnat to stay this way then fine, but certainly the youngers ones on here need to know there's a way out if they wish to choose that option.
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Okay Steve, heaven forbid I argue with a guy still stuck. You win, you are so right. Have a good life.

I'm going with Godzilla because I don't know that other one and it is psychologically safer to go with what you know, dontcha know? Stay in a nice little safe box where you feel comfortable and don't have to challenge yourself or big bad monsters and the inside of that box proves that everyone has the same box and lives in one too. [8|]







MisterMonster -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:05:40 PM)

What the fuck is Feeldoe?

On second thought, Pm it to me or something, I've gotta get the fuck away from this thread. Later gators!




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:07:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
You are wise! GOZILLA!!! (Holly even has the emo for him!)

Now, PLEASE stop feeding the troll or help me in my lame hijack attempt?
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

That Mistermonsters a hottie aint he?

I could do so much better with a hijack attempt if said Monster happened to be submissive.  No offense to the current attempt, but I see that hair and I just keep thinking PULL!

I know, I know........  Shouldn't be thinking of those who identify as a Dominant in such a way, but I've got a real thing for long hair on men.




And I shouldnt be so challenging being the sweet soft submissive I am. Being the independant woman who loves a strong man to dominate me, I should just lay down and not have an opinion as is in MY nature![:D]




lovingpet -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:08:55 PM)

*giggles at "gators*  Private joke [:D]




myotherself -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:10:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

Going with love and healthy relationships is not being stuck in a box, i've tried not to judge people, if people wnat to stay this way then fine, but certainly the youngers ones on here need to know there's a way out if they wish to choose that option


You havent convinced me with anything substantiave that kicking the dogfuck out of a woman and ramming my dick down her throat is not loving and healthy.

I mean cmon, hows about some credible proof of that, rather than pronouncements and opinions?



I can think of no greater expression of love between a sadistic dominant and a masochist submissive than a good kicking and a throat fuck.

Sigh...I need to get laid....[:D]


ETA - and clearly it's got to be Godzilla...with a Feeldoe!




LadyPact -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:11:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MisterMonster

What the fuck is Feeldoe?

On second thought, Pm it to me or something, I've gotta get the fuck away from this thread. Later gators!


Done, in the interest of education.

Great!  Now I'm thinking of long haired males with the additional subject included.

(Not thinking devious thoughts regarding you specifically, but I think I may be 'distracted' for a while.  [;)])




ownedbyPF -> RE: Bdsm is wrong (12/6/2010 12:11:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: steve2011

Going with love and healthy relationships is not being stuck in a box, i've tried not to judge people, if people wnat to stay this way then fine, but certainly the youngers ones on here need to know there's a way out if they wish to choose that option


You havent convinced me with anything substantiave that kicking the dogfuck out of a woman and ramming my dick down her throat is not loving and healthy.

I mean cmon, hows about some credible proof of that, rather than pronouncements and opinions?


That's my kinda love! So much more passion than a bunch of flowers or love you's whisperred in my ear.... sssswoooooon!
~s




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