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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 8:56:42 PM   
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ONE MOVE.. AND THE HUMBLER GETS IT!!!!



I would think if the humbler gets it, you get the humbler, but I'm not a Domme.

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:00:46 PM   
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Hmmm.. you know.. i could always take my dremel to it..

(now that i know what it looks like)

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:03:02 PM   
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Ya know, a humbler is not a hard thing to buy - I'm sure Ms Imp has a few, or can find a sub who will buy her one...  You destroy one, she gets the next one....

Have fun with that!

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:05:31 PM   
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*throws a milk-bone into oncoming traffic*

dammit.. why you gotta destroy a perfectly good plan

*stashes Imps toy bag somewhere else now*

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:09:15 PM   
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Listen, I may be a dog, but I'm not stupid enough to run into oncoming traffic....  Besides, you should thank me for reminding you what evil you're dealing with.....

OOOOOH!  Milk truck!

*Chases after it*

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:11:07 PM   
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With what's going in in here,I'll make and send Imp a metal humbler, with SPIKES, for FREE.

<------Don't mess with da Sadists.

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:22:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Reasonable

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Awwwww.....  but it's so much fun!  Especialy the result!

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:24:16 PM   
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I have no problem adapting them to dogs as well.

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:28:28 PM   
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Moderators....is there a rule against "stealth pros" on Collarme?
 
No there isn't.

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If not, there definitely needs to be.

Our wise and benevolent overlords disagree.

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 9:49:50 PM   
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Wait... so you mean to tell me.. just because a Domme has Her picture done proffesionally... that means She's a Pro-Domme?
Sorry.. but that logic is faulty.


Think about it for a minute.  The average person will go through their 'nilla and fetish photo collection and pick those pictures that make them look good.  They might get a glamour shot done, but if they can get a picture taken of themselves that looks good, that's fine too.  However, given the cost, they'll go with whatever they think looks good. 

For a proDomme, their looks can translate into dollars, like it or not.  That means that money spent on a professional shoot isn't just for creating an attractive likeness to attract the opposite sex, it is also an investment that can have a real monetary payoff. 

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 10:04:01 PM   
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Normally I don't chime into discussions about "pay" or "tribute".  I have decided to put in My two cents worth because I do ask for a small tribute for training sub and slaves.  Keyword here... I ask for tribute, I don't demand it or request it.  It is a sub/slave's choice on whether he wants to train with Me.  The reason that I ask for tribute is not due to the fact that I don't have a job outside My home.. I do have a career, which I love and has nothing to do with BDSM (and it pays well).  However, My career, submissive husband, lover, pets, friends and family keep Me fairly busy... I ask for tribute because I have several things going on in My life and I don't want to waste My time on a male that just wants to see Me for a training session in order to get his rocks off.  If that is what a male wants he can either go see a prostitute or use his hand.... I have no time for this kind of behavior. 

Tribute for Me represents how serious a sub/slave is.  I only ask for tribute in the beginning of working with a male too... after I have seen him multiple times, I stop asking for tribute altogether.  If I find a male is truly serious about training with Me and sticks with Me for some time, tribute is not an issue.  However, I do ask for it in the beginning.  I have found from experience that by not asking for a small tribute in the beginning I end up wasting My time on game players and wannabes.  I just don't have the time or patience for that.

I am not a Pro-Domme, nor am I a prostitute (I have a submissive husband and a lover if I crave anything sexual).  The tribute I ask for is paltry... for 1 to 2 hours it is 50 euros. 

In no way do I advocate a male going to see a Domme that is "pay" or non-pay"... it is the choice of the male on who he wants to work with.  The males I work with have no issues with what I ask for.  If they did, they would not choose to train with Me
.

I completely respect and appreciate the fact that you ask for tribute.  You have the right to expect to be compensated for your time and energy, and you have the right to filter your subbies based on whether or not they are willing to contribute materially to your lifestyle and prove that they are serious by offering tribute.

You are certainly not a prostitute, but you are a pro domme.  There is no shame in being a pro domme.  It is a shame to deny that you are one when you do, in fact, ask for money in exchange for slave training. 

Being a pro domme, even part time, is cool.  And it's lots of fun.  There is nothing at all wrong with it.  It's a title that you can wear with pride.  Nothing says that a pro domme can't also play privately and have personal slaves as well as clients.  Sometimes clients end up becoming personal slaves.  It's all good.  The only thing that isn't good is denying what you are doing. 


I disagree that what LadyMedhbh put forward as her reasons for requiring a small tribute in the early stages of training a personal slave is professional domination or the actions of a professional fem dom.   A pro dom first and foremost is a business woman, she keeps regular hours and has set fees and a skilled domina is largely able to accommodate most potential client's scripts, wants and fetishes that they can't or don't wish to get met elsewhere.  The client can't find it at the dairy, they can't find it at a brothel and generally they can't find it in a personal relationship.  Visiting a professional dom for a professional session is an entirely different dynamic to what LadyMedhbh proposes and therefore she is not a pro dom and shouldn't have to define herself as one.

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 10:09:16 PM   
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where do i sign up for a paycheck?

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 10:20:13 PM   
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Hey its mr predicatable...how they hanging?

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 11:41:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyMedhbh

Normally I don't chime into discussions about "pay" or "tribute".  I have decided to put in My two cents worth because I do ask for a small tribute for training sub and slaves.  Keyword here... I ask for tribute, I don't demand it or request it.  It is a sub/slave's choice on whether he wants to train with Me.  The reason that I ask for tribute is not due to the fact that I don't have a job outside My home.. I do have a career, which I love and has nothing to do with BDSM (and it pays well).  However, My career, submissive husband, lover, pets, friends and family keep Me fairly busy... I ask for tribute because I have several things going on in My life and I don't want to waste My time on a male that just wants to see Me for a training session in order to get his rocks off.  If that is what a male wants he can either go see a prostitute or use his hand.... I have no time for this kind of behavior. 

Tribute for Me represents how serious a sub/slave is.  I only ask for tribute in the beginning of working with a male too... after I have seen him multiple times, I stop asking for tribute altogether.  If I find a male is truly serious about training with Me and sticks with Me for some time, tribute is not an issue.  However, I do ask for it in the beginning.  I have found from experience that by not asking for a small tribute in the beginning I end up wasting My time on game players and wannabes.  I just don't have the time or patience for that.

I am not a Pro-Domme, nor am I a prostitute (I have a submissive husband and a lover if I crave anything sexual).  The tribute I ask for is paltry... for 1 to 2 hours it is 50 euros. 

In no way do I advocate a male going to see a Domme that is "pay" or non-pay"... it is the choice of the male on who he wants to work with.  The males I work with have no issues with what I ask for.  If they did, they would not choose to train with Me
.

I completely respect and appreciate the fact that you ask for tribute.  You have the right to expect to be compensated for your time and energy, and you have the right to filter your subbies based on whether or not they are willing to contribute materially to your lifestyle and prove that they are serious by offering tribute.

You are certainly not a prostitute, but you are a pro domme.  There is no shame in being a pro domme.  It is a shame to deny that you are one when you do, in fact, ask for money in exchange for slave training. 

Being a pro domme, even part time, is cool.  And it's lots of fun.  There is nothing at all wrong with it.  It's a title that you can wear with pride.  Nothing says that a pro domme can't also play privately and have personal slaves as well as clients.  Sometimes clients end up becoming personal slaves.  It's all good.  The only thing that isn't good is denying what you are doing. 


I disagree that what LadyMedhbh put forward as her reasons for requiring a small tribute in the early stages of training a personal slave is professional domination or the actions of a professional fem dom.   A pro dom first and foremost is a business woman, she keeps regular hours and has set fees and a skilled domina is largely able to accommodate most potential client's scripts, wants and fetishes that they can't or don't wish to get met elsewhere.  The client can't find it at the dairy, they can't find it at a brothel and generally they can't find it in a personal relationship.  Visiting a professional dom for a professional session is an entirely different dynamic to what LadyMedhbh proposes and therefore she is not a pro dom and shouldn't have to define herself as one.


Again, I state I ASK for a tribute.  I work with some males for free.  I don't keep set hours and I work around the males schedule to see if I can fit him in.  I work 60 hours outside My home (not being a Pro-Domme... what I do for a living is so Vanilla it shocks people who really know Me well (as you obviously do not), I do not have time to set a fixed shcedule for Myself to train males. 

I respect both Dommes that "require" or "ask" for tribute and Ones that do not.  To each their own. 

I am not going to sit here a belittle what anyone has to say.  I do not feel the need to take Myself to that level.

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 11:49:35 PM   
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DAMMIT.. wheres my extra large whip? how about supersized cuffs? wtf.. this is false advertising... im gonna see you in the peoples court... and yeah.. im bringing big bad johnny cochran with me too :D
*Bp*
BP I don't think he's going to be very successful from the grave with your defense, but as he's pulled a miracle before, it wouldn't be impossible for JC.   Silly Rabbit.    M

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RE: Pay? - 4/30/2006 11:53:46 PM   
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Also, in regards to being a Pro-Domme.  I don't consider Myself Pro because 1.) I do not have the time to do this for a living and 2.) In Austria (where I live) a Pro-Domme is required to have a business license.  A Domina can legally ask for a tribute, but in no way can She require a tribute.  A male does not have to pay a tribute if he does not want to.

Again, I ask for a small tribute to weed out the serious males from the game playing males.  I try to build relationships with the males I train and as I mentioned before, I do drop the tribute altogether once I know I can trust them.  What is the use of having male after male, after male come to train with Me if they are just coming for a one time session to get their rocks off.  I take the training seriously and I expect the males I train to be just as serious.

I have nothing against being called a Pro-Domme if that is how Y/you want to look at it.  I just don't see it that way.  It is not because I am disillusioning Myself, it is because I see things different than O/others do.  To each their own.

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RE: Pay? - 5/1/2006 2:06:18 AM   
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Eg, you're here to promote your own pay site, and you're quite annoyed because Akasha has the better one.  LOL 


My websites are EXACTLY as I want them to be. I do not try to emulate anyone else and do things my own way. Its worked well for me my whole life. I made a fortune in the business world based on that same premise. If you think I want cookie cutter websites like everyone else has then you are even more foolish than I assumed. Not unlike everything else about me I am not a clone, not a sheep, not part of the flock and fully able to be myself, stand up for what I believe in and not give a fuck what others think. Its unfortunate that you and perhaps others can't see that but I will continue working on it and one day even you may see the light. In the meantime continue to parrot what you have been told, mimic others, repeat from rote memorization everything that was crammed into your brain and enjoy your little life.


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RE: Pay? - 5/1/2006 7:18:23 AM   
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With what's going in in here,I'll make and send Imp a metal humbler, with SPIKES, for FREE.

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OOOOOOOO gawd I can't resist.....first It starts with the male submissives offering up all kinds of things.... now a Male Dominant jumps into the game.
<grabs her mitt and takes her stance for the shit catching she's going to have to do now>



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RE: Pay? - 5/1/2006 10:20:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn
I disagree that what LadyMedhbh put forward as her reasons for requiring a small tribute in the early stages of training a personal slave is professional domination or the actions of a professional fem dom.   A pro dom first and foremost is a business woman, she keeps regular hours and has set fees and a skilled domina is largely able to accommodate most potential client's scripts, wants and fetishes that they can't or don't wish to get met elsewhere.  The client can't find it at the dairy, they can't find it at a brothel and generally they can't find it in a personal relationship.  Visiting a professional dom for a professional session is an entirely different dynamic to what LadyMedhbh proposes and therefore she is not a pro dom and shouldn't have to define herself as one.


Those are all good points, and I agree that no one should have to define herself as anything she doesn't want to.  But the fact is that anyone who asks for money in exchange for domming is going to be defined as a pro domme by other people, generally speaking.   What kind and what degree of pro domme she is, under what circumstances she asks for money, that's entirely up to her. 

I can define myself as a three-handled family credenza if I want to, if I decide that the new definition of a three-handled family credenza is a bipedal female Homo sapiens with long dark hair and glasses.  My decision doesn't change other people's more commonly used definition of a three-handled family credenza.    Er, assuming there *is* a commonly used definition of a three-handled family credenza.  Anyhow, the cold hard fact is that most people are going to define "pro domme" as "domme who gets paid for BDSM sessions", and the activity described above does in fact fit the definition.  Doesn't mean there's a darn thing wrong with it, just means that it fits the definition of pro domme.

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RE: Pay? - 5/1/2006 10:23:47 AM   
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My websites are EXACTLY as I want them to be.


Yes, and it shows. 


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