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LadyConstanze -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 5:35:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

Not everyone from NY is stuck up.People need to learn the difference bewteen UPSTATE NY and NYC.People from upstate NY are fairly intelligent,good natured people.NYC is where all the loud mouth's live.In fact,upstate New Yorker's are probaly more frustrated at NYC than anywhere else.See,the majority of voter's are naturally in NYC,because it's such a large city.Alot of people in NYC vote for people to Albany(NYS State Capitol)and they really only care about NYC need's.Alot of people from NYC look at upstate New York's as nothin but a bunch of hick's.The reason New York state has such high taxes are because of NYC.People in upstate NY pay's a huge amount in state taxes,yet get very little return on their money.NYC is greedy and reap's all the benefit's... NYC can drift away into the Atlantic Ocean for all I care.I'm sure there's alot of people from upstate NY who feel the same way.Thank's for nothing NYC,upstate NY will do just fine without you.



I'm sure NYC cares very much about you too.

Most cities in the world would be proud if you would represent them on an international or national board, especially when it comes to their education standards.




Jaybeee -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 5:45:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

Wiki defines it as 23

This I wanna see. Link please?

K.



I don't see why you can't find it for yourself, but as you ask so nicely...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America




Aylee -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 5:46:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

Wiki defines it as 23

This I wanna see. Link please?

K.



I think that they count central America / Latin America and some islands to get that number. 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas#Sovereign_states




Charles6682 -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 7:03:38 AM)

I could careless what NYC think's.Go now,drift away into the Atlantic Ocean,NYC.NYC is more of a burden then a benefit to the rest of New York State.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 7:22:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

I could careless what NYC think's.Go now,drift away into the Atlantic Ocean,NYC.NYC is more of a burden then a benefit to the rest of New York State.



You shouldn't care what NYC thinks, you should care what most people think if they read your posts. Do enlighten us, what benefit are you to the country?
You say on your profile you're 28, at that age most people have mastered the basics of grammar, one could assume you were pretty much a burden on the education system...

It's fairly simple, after each punctuation mark you press the space bar, plural s is without an apostrophe. I wouldn't blame that on the Upstate education but on you just being too lazy to put any effort in, or did NYC generously supply you with so many apostrophes that you need to get rid of them?




TribeTziyon -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 7:27:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hlen5


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ORIGINAL: TribeTziyon

We better mind our manners (even if we are short on them) must not upset the Queen Mum and all.

(Psssst, Tribe, the queen Mum is dead, that would be Elizabeth's Mom).

Here in the Midwest, most people of Indian descent appear to operate convenience stores. Do other Midwesterners find that to be true??



[sm=nervous.gif][sm=nervous.gif]  I missed that bit of news. I must have been out milking the cows. [>:]




LadyConstanze -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 7:29:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TribeTziyon

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ORIGINAL: hlen5


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ORIGINAL: TribeTziyon

We better mind our manners (even if we are short on them) must not upset the Queen Mum and all.

(Psssst, Tribe, the queen Mum is dead, that would be Elizabeth's Mom).

Here in the Midwest, most people of Indian descent appear to operate convenience stores. Do other Midwesterners find that to be true??



[sm=nervous.gif][sm=nervous.gif]  I missed that bit of news. I must have been out milking the cows. [>:]



Oddly enough that seems to be true in the UK (famed corner stores) as well, though I haven't seen a cow in ages... I'm sure the UK has cows as the supermarkets all have milk....




LadyPact -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 7:49:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
....something like that.   I grew up out of the area- so I did not go to high school here- and because of that will always be an "outsider".    But even in the circles- they go back to who settled the area first- 6 generations back and who married who... argh!

This is very true.  I actually grew up in the region that Pa is talking about here and when they say that everybody knows everybody, they mean it.  Most people will know you, your family, your family's family, what family you married into, and the history of that family as well.  In a lot of cases, they can tell you the whole family line all of the way back to when the first got there when they immigrated to the country.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 9:14:30 AM)

Hoosier mom and Hoosier dad?

Well I've been both a yank and a midwesterner... and a myriad of other things.
I'd say there are absolutely cultural differences.  However, I'm sooooooooooooo not gonna get into this hornet's nest. 





LaTigresse -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 9:15:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
....something like that.   I grew up out of the area- so I did not go to high school here- and because of that will always be an "outsider".    But even in the circles- they go back to who settled the area first- 6 generations back and who married who... argh!

This is very true.  I actually grew up in the region that Pa is talking about here and when they say that everybody knows everybody, they mean it.  Most people will know you, your family, your family's family, what family you married into, and the history of that family as well.  In a lot of cases, they can tell you the whole family line all of the way back to when the first got there when they immigrated to the country.



Sounds like Iowa.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 9:26:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

Wiki defines it as 23

This I wanna see. Link please?

K.



I think that they count central America / Latin America and some islands to get that number. 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas#Sovereign_states

Yep.  It depends on how you define things. From an earlier link:

North America is often divided into subregions but no universally accepted divisions exist. Central America comprises the southern region of the continent, but its northern terminus varies between sources. Geophysically, the region starts at the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico (namely the Mexican states of Campeche, Chiapas, Tabasco, Quintana Roo, and Yucatán). The United Nations geoscheme includes Mexico in Central America; conversely, the European Union excludes both Mexico and Belize from the area. Geopolitically however, Mexico is usually considered a part of the North American region.

Northern America is used to refer to the northern countries and territories of North America: Canada, the United States, Greenland, Bermuda, and St. Pierre and Miquelon. They are often considered distinct from the southern portion of the Americas, which largely comprise Latin America. The term Middle America is sometimes used to collectively refer to Mexico, the nations of Central America, and the Caribbean.
The "geophysical" definition of North America is the three nation-states: the US, Canada, and Mexico. This is how most of the populations of those nations define it, I suspect (I know I do).

This doesn't include island nations, not on the continent.

Firm




soul2share -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 9:52:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hlen5
People generally don't consider Oklahoma to be in the Midwest.
There is Broken Arrow Resort in S Dakota, and Broken Arrow T-shirt shop in Iowa. There is no Broken Arrow town or city in Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa or Ohio. There is the Broken Arrow Wilderness in Nebraska.
As a foreigner, you could be given points for knowing the term "the Midwest", if not for the sloppy generalization.


Yeah, I thought the same thing, but then again, I just considered the source.......

OP, Oklahoma is in what we consider to be the Southwest.....a whole different set of stereotypes and thinking.




soul2share -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 10:02:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
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ORIGINAL: Charles6682
I could careless what NYC think's.Go now,drift away into the Atlantic Ocean,NYC.NYC is more of a burden then a benefit to the rest of New York State.

You shouldn't care what NYC thinks, you should care what most people think if they read your posts. Do enlighten us, what benefit are you to the country?   *SNORT*  I lubs Lady C!  [:)]
You say on your profile you're 28, at that age most people have mastered the basics of grammar, one could assume you were pretty much a burden on the education system...even more!
It's fairly simple, after each punctuation mark you press the space bar, plural s is without an apostrophe. I wouldn't blame that on the Upstate education but on you just being too lazy to put any effort in, or did NYC generously supply you with so many apostrophes that you need to get rid of them?


Lady C, I am a product of the NYS public education system, and can assure you that not all NY'ers are ol' Charles.....I finally had to hide him because his posts are so difficult to A) read and B) just plain look at!  (This was done after a few others commented in another thread about the same problem, and he got hostile.)

And I had friends that lived in the same part of NYS that he did.....went to the same schools....they turned out ok.  Go figure!




hlen5 -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 10:38:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: soul2share

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ORIGINAL: hlen5
.......As a foreigner, you could be given points for knowing the term "the Midwest", if not for the sloppy generalization.


Yeah, I thought the same thing, but then again, I just considered the source.......



[;)] Soul2share, I love your sig line!!




pahunkboy -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 11:05:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee


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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I am from Chicago, which is also the Midwest and generally described as a world class city.

I don't like most people.

But I think I express myself rather well in the process.


Chicago is a superb city, I'm only sad I haven't had the pleasure of visiting it yet. Too enamoured of NYC, but I will make the trip.

Wait - YES, actually I was there in March, stayed overnight between flights but was too tired to go enjoying the nightlife. I see why they call it the "windy" city.

:)


Chicago is a GREAT city.   I love the 'can do" attitude.  The lake front and sky line is awesome.

And we all know that Chicago-- is much, MUCH, MUCH- better then New York City!!.   STOMP

(grins!  ;-))




pahunkboy -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 11:08:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
....something like that.   I grew up out of the area- so I did not go to high school here- and because of that will always be an "outsider".    But even in the circles- they go back to who settled the area first- 6 generations back and who married who... argh!

This is very true.  I actually grew up in the region that Pa is talking about here and when they say that everybody knows everybody, they mean it.  Most people will know you, your family, your family's family, what family you married into, and the history of that family as well.  In a lot of cases, they can tell you the whole family line all of the way back to when the first got there when they immigrated to the country.



Sounds like Iowa.



I dont mean to sound negative about it. As it flows pretty well.  It just is a different mindset.  These same people are very good allies when adversity hits.

I bumbled at first- when I moved here- as I thought the whole world was as direct- in your face as Chicago is.   But once I realized there is local flavor/custom,  I am fine.    

One mindset is not better then the other- just know which parameters there are- and flow with it.   It all works out in the end.




LanceHughes -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 11:23:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Actually, I find East Coast types to frequently be provincial.  Especially NYC and Washington tend to forget that other parts of the country exist. 

Midwesterners have an attitude of independence that I like.  And they of course are aware of other parts of the country and ways of thinking.

New Englanders drove me crazy with their passive stoicism when I lived there.  I prefer the frontier mentality of energetic optimism.

A book that I liked is The Nine Nations of North America.


This image has many, many variations and lots-o-discussion all over the web.  Is it viral?  Not really.....  BUT! "The Nine Nations of North America" was written in 1981 and at the time was a BIG thing in the public's view.  To the OP:  The generalizations are pretty much correct, the exact details...... well that's why googling the title <use quotes> gets 45,000 + hits.  Ask for images and you can have 1,700+ variations on this map. LOL!

[image]http://almostchosenpeople.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/nine-nations.png[/image]

Notice that Illinois is divided into 3 main parts of which Indiana shares two.






pahunkboy -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 11:34:49 AM)

I don't know Lance.  I have had hotter sex in this red necked area- then I did in Chicago.







Marc2b -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 11:35:20 AM)

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Not everyone from NY is stuck up.People need to learn the difference bewteen UPSTATE NY and NYC.People from upstate NY are fairly intelligent,good natured people.NYC is where all the loud mouth's live.In fact,upstate New Yorker's are probaly more frustrated at NYC than anywhere else.See,the majority of voter's are naturally in NYC,because it's such a large city.Alot of people in NYC vote for people to Albany(NYS State Capitol)and they really only care about NYC need's.Alot of people from NYC look at upstate New York's as nothin but a bunch of hick's.The reason New York state has such high taxes are because of NYC.People in upstate NY pay's a huge amount in state taxes,yet get very little return on their money.NYC is greedy and reap's all the benefit's... NYC can drift away into the Atlantic Ocean for all I care.I'm sure there's alot of people from upstate NY who feel the same way.Thank's for nothing NYC,upstate NY will do just fine without you.


[sm=applause.gif]

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

I hate it when I tell people that I'm from New York and then have to explain to them that I am not from NYC. Although I know it will never happen I fully endorse the idea that NYC should become it's own State and leave the rest of us alone (actually, the pretty much leave us alone anyway - except when election time rolls around, then they swing by to tell us that they understand the needs and concerns of upstate New York before they disappear again). I'll even let NYC keep the name New York and the rest of us can take a different name (I would suggest Cambria, which is what much of the region was called when the French owned it).




pahunkboy -> RE: Question to yanks about midwesterners.... (12/13/2010 11:37:30 AM)

That can be viewed urban vs rural.

I agree- upstate New Yorkers are some of the nicest people around.




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