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I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse application... - 12/15/2010 3:26:53 PM

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First of all the dam terminal program wouldn't let me log in, and when I asked an employee, what to do they had no clue. A CUSTOMER over heard me and said I got this, I k now what to do.

A FREAKING CUSTOMER. It's really bad when a sales clerk has no clue about what you're asking about and a CUSTOMER knows what to do when you're the one who works there, not her.

Then they required two names of people you worked for or volunteered for, not referances in general worked for or volunteered for. Well I am a home body I haven't worked in many many years, and I also don't volunteer any more and haven't in 3years maybe? So I was totally screwed on that one, and just put in my bf's name and another persons name.

Then they wanted all this information as to have I in the last year gotten snap or other families in need programing or food stamps, and all this other stuff about being on personal aid programs, filled that out.

Then they wanted me to fill out a 65 question questionair, to which at that point I said oh fuck no. I am not sitting here in a corner by the bathrooms for the next umpteen minutes filling out your questionair. I will do it at home.

So really, I wasted an hour just about sitting there, and didn't even complete it. And to top if all off, the craft felt I needed, was 9 cents more expensive than Michaels, and that's saying something when Walmart costs you more than Michaels. It used to be the other way.

Anyway, I'm just blowing hot annoyed air. If anything at all I was annoyed at, it was that employee's at WAlmart didn't even know how to help a customer out when they had a question, about using the in house employment application machine, and a customer had to answer the question. That looks pretty bad when Customers are answering questions because EMPLOYEES DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 4:13:57 PM

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Floor personell are not trained on how to do the application terminal and in truth it is not their job to walk you through it. So I personally did not find any fault with them. You got lucky that a customer knew how to help you and was willing to. The reality is being able to fill out the application properly is one way an employeer screens prospective employees. BTW.. IMO lying on your application is a bad way to start if you dont have job / voluntteer references put N/A or none instead of lying.

As far as prices go, it truly depends on the item and if its on sale or not at other places but that isnt any different than any other store.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 4:22:07 PM

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this is the normal application process of pretty much everywhere.

No one wants personal references. They'll lie and make you look good because they are your friends and family. They want to know what you're like when you are working, not when you're sitting at home.

I would say that if you haven't worked in many years you should try to put together a resume and write a well written coverletter explaining why you haven't worked in many years. They'll want to know.

I would also suggest to maybe take some classes if you can so that you can update your work skills.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 4:40:25 PM

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TFB, if you had problems in the store, you'll have the same problems at home, it's the same program. And I have to agree, if you can't figure out how to use the computer, then blaming the floor personnel for the lack of knowledge isn't right.

It took me all of about 25 minutes online to finish the process......trust me, as far as applying for a job, I've spent more time on other companies applications. Their screening process, the asking of those 65 questions, is done for a reason. It's partly a psychological/personality type test given by a lot of companies these days. Heck the job I'm probably going to get had 13 pages of documents I had to fill out, and it was just for a data entry job.....I won't even go into police department apps! 28 pages for a simple background check!

Everyone does applications on line anymore....gone are the days of just being able to walk in and talk to someone. It actually sort of sucks.....there's no way to track the progress of your app, or to speak to anyone in the company with any questions you have. It's all very impersonal anymore, I've filled out probably 125 + applications on line since I lost my job, I've actually spoken to about 6 company representatives. Where the market used to be the applicant's market, due to the unemployment numbers, hirers are the ones who call the shots now. You don't know how frustrating it is to be over-qualified for a job, ANY job, but can't even get the opportunity to sell yourself in person to anyone in HR.

The information about what, if any, public assistance you get is for tax credit purposes....employers get credit for the people they hire that are able to get off the public assistance roles.

The reference info is common on any application.....using your bf is NOT going to bode well. They want someone who can vouch for your work ethic, job performance, character, things like that.

Anyway, good luck in your search. Times are tough, but if you stick to it, something will come up.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 6:32:04 PM

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Ignorance was the wrong word I was still grouchy. It did say if you needed assistance ask a sales person. so I did lol. I suppose it should of been obvious the user name had to start with caps lock, but not all places do capitalized first letters.

TEchnically listing James as a referance isn't a lie, I have done volunteer work for him before, if you consider going 2 hours away and cleaning his trailer out of his stuff while he couldn't do it volunteering. I consider it volunteering, but it may not be the volunteering they had in mind. I'/'ll have to dig out the name of the lady at the SPCa who's head of the volunteer's and get her name an number, if she'd be willing to be a referance.

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Floor personell are not trained on how to do the application terminal and in truth it is not their job to walk you through it. So I personally did not find any fault with them. You got lucky that a customer knew how to help you and was willing to. The reality is being able to fill out the application properly is one way an employeer screens prospective employees. BTW.. IMO lying on your application is a bad way to start if you dont have job / voluntteer references put N/A or none instead of lying.

As far as prices go, it truly depends on the item and if its on sale or not at other places but that isnt any different than any other store.
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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 6:38:03 PM

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Soul, Once I got past the part about not doing capitalized letters for my beginning letter of my username, there wasn't to many problems. I did decide not to finish the questionair instore, and do it at home, simply because I had other people waiting for me to be done with my shopping.

I passed the test questions. It was basically applying what you feel would be best to do in a certain situation, an they gave you a bunch of scenario's like Your coworker keeps coming to work late, every one who's picked up their slack is now getting mad do you do A, B, C or D. with a description of each option.

Then you choose which one is, in your opinion the best option. It was a long process, but once I was at home an comfortable and not having people waiting for me to conclude my business an go home, it wasn't nearly as horrible lol.

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TFB, if you had problems in the store, you'll have the same problems at home, it's the same program. And I have to agree, if you can't figure out how to use the computer, then blaming the floor personnel for the lack of knowledge isn't right.

It took me all of about 25 minutes online to finish the process......trust me, as far as applying for a job, I've spent more time on other companies applications. Their screening process, the asking of those 65 questions, is done for a reason. It's partly a psychological/personality type test given by a lot of companies these days. Heck the job I'm probably going to get had 13 pages of documents I had to fill out, and it was just for a data entry job.....I won't even go into police department apps! 28 pages for a simple background check!

Everyone does applications on line anymore....gone are the days of just being able to walk in and talk to someone. It actually sort of sucks.....there's no way to track the progress of your app, or to speak to anyone in the company with any questions you have. It's all very impersonal anymore, I've filled out probably 125 + applications on line since I lost my job, I've actually spoken to about 6 company representatives. Where the market used to be the applicant's market, due to the unemployment numbers, hirers are the ones who call the shots now. You don't know how frustrating it is to be over-qualified for a job, ANY job, but can't even get the opportunity to sell yourself in person to anyone in HR.

The information about what, if any, public assistance you get is for tax credit purposes....employers get credit for the people they hire that are able to get off the public assistance roles.

The reference info is common on any application.....using your bf is NOT going to bode well. They want someone who can vouch for your work ethic, job performance, character, things like that.

Anyway, good luck in your search. Times are tough, but if you stick to it, something will come up.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 6:45:03 PM

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Being so far out of the loop does put you at a pretty big disadvantage huh?:(

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this is the normal application process of pretty much everywhere.

No one wants personal references. They'll lie and make you look good because they are your friends and family. They want to know what you're like when you are working, not when you're sitting at home.

I would say that if you haven't worked in many years you should try to put together a resume and write a well written coverletter explaining why you haven't worked in many years. They'll want to know.

I would also suggest to maybe take some classes if you can so that you can update your work skills.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 6:45:23 PM

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If you do get hired by Walmart, would you be able to help others fill out an on line application ?

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 7:04:30 PM

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servant, now that I have done it, yes I can:)

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 7:08:02 PM

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Technically listing James as a referance isn't a lie, I have done volunteer work for him before, if you consider going 2 hours away and cleaning his trailer out of his stuff while he couldn't do it volunteering. I consider it volunteering, but it may not be the volunteering they had in mind. I'll have to dig out the name of the lady at the SPCa who's head of the volunteer's and get her name an number, if she'd be willing to be a referance.

Um, no, that is NOT the idea of volunteering that companies are looking for. The SPCA stuff is more of what they want to see. Cleaning your boyfriend's house is not.

Have you checked with your local unemployment or labor service about training for jobs? They are also a resource for job openings, they will help you do a resume and cover letter and different things like that. You can post your resume on different job boards, however, make sure you use the spell check and grammar feature before submitting them.....you can do it by cutting and pasting your stuff onto a word document and running them, then paste it back in. Employers actually DO check out the job sites for resumes, I've been contacted 4 times by companies that I never even applied for.

The services thru the labor service/unemployement offices are free. Check under state government offices, or just go online and type in unemployment and the city you're in, you'll get something back.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 7:27:29 PM

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Soul, I didn't know anything about stuff like that. Walmart was my first attempt after the last two jobs to get a job. Fort he last two jobs I heard about them in a newspaper. Well the telemarketing job I did, it's been so long I can't remember how I heard of the first one. The telemarketing job Ient in, did an interview, an they hired me. I'll have to check them out.

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Have you checked with your local unemployment or labor service about training for jobs? They are also a resource for job openings, they will help you do a resume and cover letter and different things like that. You can post your resume on different job boards, however, make sure you use the spell check and grammar feature before submitting them.....you can do it by cutting and pasting your stuff onto a word document and running them, then paste it back in. Employers actually DO check out the job sites for resumes, I've been contacted 4 times by companies that I never even applied for.

The services thru the labor service/unemployement offices are free. Check under state government offices, or just go online and type in unemployment and the city you're in, you'll get something back.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/15/2010 7:56:08 PM

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has any one here ever been a grocery bagging clerk? If so what was the job like what did training and skills did it require?

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/16/2010 4:55:55 AM

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Technically listing James as a referance isn't a lie, I have done volunteer work for him before, if you consider going 2 hours away and cleaning his trailer out of his stuff while he couldn't do it volunteering. I consider it volunteering, but it may not be the volunteering they had in mind. I'll have to dig out the name of the lady at the SPCa who's head of the volunteer's and get her name an number, if she'd be willing to be a referance.

Um, no, that is NOT the idea of volunteering that companies are looking for. The SPCA stuff is more of what they want to see. Cleaning your boyfriend's house is not.

Have you checked with your local unemployment or labor service about training for jobs? They are also a resource for job openings, they will help you do a resume and cover letter and different things like that. You can post your resume on different job boards, however, make sure you use the spell check and grammar feature before submitting them.....you can do it by cutting and pasting your stuff onto a word document and running them, then paste it back in. Employers actually DO check out the job sites for resumes, I've been contacted 4 times by companies that I never even applied for.

The services thru the labor service/unemployement offices are free. Check under state government offices, or just go online and type in unemployment and the city you're in, you'll get something back.

Agree with everything soul said. The state labor offices offer basic help, including classes on how to use MS Office, how to look for work, etc. I think they'd be a great place for you to visit.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/16/2010 8:42:24 AM

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TFB, right now you are competing against A LOT of unemployed people who have held jobs etc. So you will need to stick out in the process and one way they do that is to contact former people who have worked with you. Secondly, i think all a sale's person would do, would be to direct you to human resources or a manager. I would find it odd if a sales person could help me fill something out that they will never be a process of. I would have gone to customer service and asked a manager before i asked a sales clerk.

You could also go to a store you are interested in and see if they will allow you to volunteer to get training lol. I mean if you don't have training, maybe some places could use you as an intern. You won't get paid but you will get experience. Nowadays at Christmas, there is probably volunteer efforts all over the place. They are going to want to know why you haven't worked in the last couple years and they will want to probably know your last employer.

As for the questionnaire, its their company, if you aren't willing to fill out the questionnaire then find another company. Its really that simple. Some company's make you take a personality test -- which that may have been -- prior to hiring you. You will be working with the public so maybe they want to be sure who they are hiring, i can see the questionnaire.

You can also go to temp agencies to get experience. You need to be proactive in getting training especially with all of the people who have various training out of work trying to find one. If you are waiting for training to fall into your lap, you will be the one who is passed up.

You are interested in crafts, why not go to michaels or such and see if they need help for the holidays etc.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/16/2010 11:57:06 AM

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Angel, I looked at the jobs Michael's had to offer, and the only one I would be able to do, would be a craft teacher, and even that I doubt I qualify for, because the crafts I like to do, are all rather simple ones, that really wouldn't need a class to teach one to do it. Their classes are for stuff like jewlery making or knitting, or cake decorating and stuff. All skills way above anything I do, or would be interested in doing.

I don't know how to do things like count money or make change, so a job working the cash register or something would be out, and I'm really limited in what I can do pysichally, so I am looking for job that don't require a lot of lifting or bending, very much pysical activity or strenous activity or carrying things or endless time on your feet ect ect, since I can't do that stuff right now. That's why I would need a job like a cart pusher or a greeter. It's not pysically demanding in ways I can't accomidate right now. and even the most basic drone could do it lol..

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/16/2010 12:11:45 PM

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TFTB, training and experience isn't going to fall into your lap., YOU have to be proactive in gaining same. If you keep saying you can't, you know you will be right. As i said, if you are seriously seeking training, contact a store you are interested in and see if they would be willing to allow you to train as an intern rather than a paid employee. Okay, i know this may not be a politically correct question but you are able to type on a computer, you seem to have basic education, what do you mean you are not able to count money or change?   You seem intelligent, is there a reason you can't learn?

Go back to school in something that interests you. If you have disabilities or learning disabilities, aren't there places that offer classes and such? As other people said, go to the unemployment office and see what they have to offer as to free classes and such. Nowadays especially, it seems there are a lot of career centers etc.

You mentioned bagger, that from what i see is a lot of time spent on their feet and lifting bags. Play to your strengths and find out what you can do rather than what you think you can't.   Think of it like this -- if you needed a job what COULD you do. If you were on your last meal and needed to find something to do, what could you do?

You have a computer, do some research on the career sites etc.

Only you can be proactive, no one is just going to hand you training, experience and a job. You are going to have to get out there and take what you want because there are too many people right now who are desperate to do ANYTHING to bring in money. Someone who is limiting yourself is not going to have a whole heck of a lot of success.

Good luck,

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/16/2010 12:26:36 PM

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I was never taught how to do that stuff. My parents didn't teach me and the school didn't either. Daddy and I should start working on that though. It's beyond silly not to know how to.

Yes there's programs, however limited right now for people with learning disabilities. When I was a student at adult ed, they gave me the option of listing myself as emotionally and learning disabled , I don't know specifically if my teacher specialied in those kinds of students, but he was a good teacher, patient with all my learning hang ups as long as I was putting in the work. I was finishing my highschool courses there, the courses they offered was practical stuff, like ESL as a second language, Motocycle classes to get your motorcycle liscence, they did stuff like teach you how to drive a forklift an get you certified to do jobs involving forlifts. They also had a computer lab.

I could call Michaels and see if there's any classes in stuff I like to and could teach yes, you never know it doesn't hurt an all you have to loose is a phone call.

I can also go back to volunteering, at least even a little bit, so if they want referances of people I have worked for or volunteered for, I won't be shit out of luck on that one lol. Maybe I might even find a job possibility at the SPCA or something.

I certainly could try for jobs that are not through a company. I did have one person who said he'd pay me to do his laundry, washing it and folding it, and I was willing to do that, though he turned out to be a creep, so it never panned out. I could see if any one on our block needs help with basic things, and do those for them.

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TFTB, training and experience isn't going to fall into your lap., YOU have to be proactive in gaining same. If you keep saying you can't, you know you will be right. As i said, if you are seriously seeking training, contact a store you are interested in and see if they would be willing to allow you to train as an intern rather than a paid employee. Okay, i know this may not be a politically correct question but you are able to type on a computer, you seem to have basic education, what do you mean you are not able to count money or change?   You seem intelligent, is there a reason you can't learn?

Go back to school in something that interests you. If you have disabilities or learning disabilities, aren't there places that offer classes and such? As other people said, go to the unemployment office and see what they have to offer as to free classes and such. Nowadays especially, it seems there are a lot of career centers etc.

You mentioned bagger, that from what i see is a lot of time spent on their feet and lifting bags. Play to your strengths and find out what you can do rather than what you think you can't.   Think of it like this -- if you needed a job what COULD you do. If you were on your last meal and needed to find something to do, what could you do?

You have a computer, do some research on the career sites etc.

Only you can be proactive, no one is just going to hand you training, experience and a job. You are going to have to get out there and take what you want because there are too many people right now who are desperate to do ANYTHING to bring in money. Someone who is limiting yourself is not going to have a whole heck of a lot of success.

Good luck,

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/16/2010 12:28:21 PM

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I also hear goodwill is a good place for people to work, who've got special needs or are starting bottom rung. I will be checking them out too.

And I could go back to telemarketing, that job wasn't to hard, it was just monotonous. But I could live with monotony for a while.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/16/2010 1:24:59 PM

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TFTB, all i can say is your last paragraph says a lot of the second post above. Its not that you can't find jobs its you only want to do work that you want to do. It seems you have the luxury of not having to work. So the problem, to me, lies with you. If you buy things, i am sorry, but your "no one ever taught me" concept doesn't wash with me. You seem to be able to decipher basic math when you want to buy stuff for your crafts etc. You can go on the computer and find websites that will teach you just about anything. And nowadays, the computers do most things for the cashier all you have to know is how to count and make change for a dollar. There are enough people out there seeking jobs right now where you should count yourself lucky you only want a job and not need a job. You have the luxury of being able to say well i guess i could live with monotony for a while. There are people out there who would kill for the monotony of a steadily paying job. So the choice in this seems to be yours. You have to decide how much you want a job, and then go out to see if you can get the one you want. If you do, good for you, if you don't, then its up to you to correct the reason why.

I hope whatever you are seeking you find.

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RE: I am sort of pissed off at Walmarts inhouse applica... - 12/16/2010 1:35:36 PM

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This thread has me imagining myself as a Wal Mart greeter in 30 years.

"Welcome to Wal mart, now get your shit and get the hell outa here. Get your own damn cart I'm 80 fuckin years old"

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