RapierFugue
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Joined: 3/16/2006 From: London, England Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: Jaybeee There are no contradictions in my case, moral or otherwise. A conscriptee usually doesn't want to fight, and even less to kill. The true psycho LOOKS for a reason to kill, and finds it, in beautifully legal format, complete with the pretext of "I'm just defending my country!!", by volunteering to join the armed forces. Isn't that 'Hide' button looking so much more tempting this morning? Ah ok, so military=bad, but Israeli military=good. Got it. I have to say I do find it odd that you're perfectly sanguine supporting (by holidaying there, thus funding their economy) a state which has a) utilised its military to kill civilians of foreign nations, b) targeted and killed journalists trying to report on possible atrocities in areas it is involved in conflicts in, and c) used its secret police to murder people it considers its enemies on other nations' soils, and yet you get miffed by American citizens verbally supporting their service personnel. The “Hide” button is not “looking so much more tempting this morning” because you're debating reasonably, without use of bile, but I have to say what respect I had for your position has evaporated with your most recent comments. I believed you were taking a moral stance against something you believed deeply in, but the fact you're prepared to prop up a state that commits such heinous acts of violence, espionage and murder, in the name of a sunny holiday with a few fit chicks thrown in, really does both surprise and disappoint me. Seriously, I'm actually genuinely surprised. Shocked even, now I think about it. Israel has a right to defend itself, absolutely it does. But many of its actions go far beyond reasonable “defence” parameters, and on occasion venture into state-sponsored terrorism territory. I would have thought that sort of thing would be an anathema to you.
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