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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:24:37 AM   
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then maybe eventually fumbling around like a couple of sophomores on their 1st date.


What kind of dork doesn't go on a first date until they're a sophomore? That makes me sad. :(


TOTALLY LOVE the killer bunny slippers!  I WANT!!!

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:30:35 AM   
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TOTALLY LOVE the killer bunny slippers!  I WANT!!!


Thanks! Ordered them through Urban Outfitters, where they also had these really disturbing and sinister looking panda bear ski masks. I mean I love panda bears but these ski masks were just evil. They gave me both the heebies and the jeebies!

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:31:44 AM   
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*runs to website*

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:36:05 AM   
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holy shit!  $44.00???? 

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:37:46 AM   
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where they also had these really disturbing and sinister looking panda bear ski masks. I mean I love panda bears but these ski masks were just evil.

Want. Must have. Will die if do not own.

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:38:26 AM   
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holy shit!  $44.00???? 


Yeah but they're so awesome. And really warm!

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:39:13 AM   
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where they also had these really disturbing and sinister looking panda bear ski masks. I mean I love panda bears but these ski masks were just evil.

Want. Must have. Will die if do not own.


The UK site doesn't do them

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:41:59 AM   
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The UK site doesn't do them


awwww.....That's super-ironic because they're specifically marketed as the killer bunnies from Monty Python's Holy Grail!

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:42:36 AM   
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The UK site doesn't do them


awwww.....That's super-ironic because they're specifically marketed as the killer bunnies from Monty Python's Holy Grail!

<fx: wails in emotional agony>

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:49:33 AM   
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RF.. maybe we can work something out *wiggles eyebrows*

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 8:56:40 AM   
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RF.. maybe we can work something out *wiggles eyebrows*

Thanks :)

The weird thing is even the US site doesn't show them, I presume because they've got a URL block on stuff they won't ship abroad.

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 9:33:28 AM   
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I'm not a regular patron of forums anywhere, and while I agree in totality that the OP is a mindless fop, I have to play "Devil's advocate" here for one reason: because there are far, far too many people I've watched on these boards over almost the last year who's perspectives on the "Lifestyle" are as ignorant as the fool who started this topic.

The guy might come-off like a limp-dick troglodyte, but there are just as many others here equally as ignorant in their attitudes who need to get a grip, as too many "in the Lifestyle".

No, I'm not him, no I don't fucking know him, nor do I care about or anyone else, but there's so much bullshit on these forums, on this site and in the Lifestyle in general, I've basically just had it, and am going to vent about it because, fuck it, it's a "free world", right?

Example:
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This sounds like grandstanding. Who are You addressing? All the fakes and pretenders on the forums? You've made, what, five posts? You're hardly an expert yet.


What the fuck does his post count have to do anything? You could have 100k posts on these forums and not be an "expert", not that there is such a thing as an "expert", being a relative fucking term.

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There are people here who have been doing this for decades and are extremely accomplished and well respected in their communities.


Alright, this was the last straw for me, regarding all the bullshit I've seen spewed around here for far too long.

The word "accomplished" is immensely fucking relative, and means absolutely nothing.

Who's "accomplished" and what's made them so? Who makes that judgment? The idiot "purists" who believe there's the "right ways" in regards to BDSM and the Lifestyle? Who have the ability to make that judgment, simple due to the fact they can tie every fucking knot in the world and give commands in some "scene" using particular words?

The fucking egos of those who follow this Holier-than-thou bullshit due to believing themselves to do things "the right way" are unbelievable.

"Grandstanding" would be such assholes who believe themselves "accomplished" because they've been "in the Lifestyle" tying knots, giving commands and whipping people/or submitting and sucking cock at the whim of another, none of which amounts to shit.

Truth is, while for many BDSM and the Lifestyle can involve a lot of roleplay, that most people are just playing a role within the roleplay, and are completely fucking full of shit.

I'll tell you what else I'm fucking tired of with the plethora of fake fucks around here: all the over-sensitive fucking "romanticizing" of BDSM/the Lifestyle. There are far too many practically, if not outright, stating that there "should" always be love involved and mutual respect in a way that's way to akin to what would be involved in a "vanilla" relationship. Absolutely asinine, given that you're talking about a Lifestyle in which "Slavery" is involved, and people want to be used, abused and put into the service of another.

Contradictions in attitudes abound in this fucking place, and perspectives among far too many anywhere are far too skewed.

Sure, there's trust that should always exist between a Master and Slave, and that even love can develop, but unless you're just a "bedroom BDSM'er", too many here, as fucking "experienced" as they believe themselves to be, are full of shit, continually contradicting themselves in what is, by nature, already a contradictory lifestyle.

You "can" be in-love with someone with whom you're sharing the Lifestyle, but the Lifestyle has nothing to fucking do with "love", or "cuddling aftercare"... awww, such a sweet concept... just go back to your vanilla life if you want to be fucking cuddled, or your roleplaying "scenes" bullshit, and stop claiming to be "experts" in the "Lifestyle", as word which would indicate it's something you LIVE, not just "play-out".

You want to be "Slave", but you want to have rights? You want someone to "give a fuck" what you think? Sure, a Master should "care" what their Slave thinks, to a degree, but the entire point of being "Slave" is to have your decisions made for you, and have "no rights" but what the Master sees fit.

There is no "right way" or "one way" in the Lifestyle, in terms of who desires what, their methodology or how they go about anything, period.
There's no love to be "expected" that need be involved.

No, it's not just "about sex", unless you want it to be, and many DO live it as a lifestyle, 24/7.
Yes, it's much "about sex", as it's a lifestyle that revolves around the erotic.

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I would suggest everyone who thinks they are into BDSM actually take the time to look up each of the words BONDAGE - DISCIPLINE/DOMINATION (<--- there are 2 schools of thought) - SADISM - MASOCHISM. Then be honest with yourself. Words mean things. There is a reason for these words to exist in our language. If you've never physically bound & abused another human being (and enjoyed it), you're neither a dom nor a sadist. If you've never given yourself into the control of another for the express purpose of being bound & abused (and enjoyed it) you're neither a sub nor a masochist. Furthermore, if you have a laundry list of things you won't do, or allow to be done to you, that takes longer to read than War & Peace, you're NOT a sub. A sub doesn't get to decide very much at all. Entering an arrangement with more than a few reasonable boundaries is NOT submission. Allowing for more than a few reasonable considerations is NOT dominance.


He's right on this, in what he's trying to get across.

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BDSM is not a lifestyle. While it can, & often does carry over into the mundane, everyday life of those few who practice it, BDSM is 1st, & foremost, a sexual proclivity.


He's a little off on this... the "sexual proclivity" becomes a lifestyle, along with all else involved. BDSM can indeed be, and is for some (though I don't think as many here as who proclaim) a true Lifestyle.

Actually, I agree with much of what he said, though he's a coward and backing-off from his opinions now. I think it's definitely way to linear in perspective, but most of the "basics" he got across, if you think about where it's coming from, make sense... unless you're a "treat me like a whore, but love me like your wife/husband" or "I want no rights, but want the right to have rights" idiot, in which case, you're not going to understand shit.

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Methinks he doth protest too much.


For the love of fuck... seriously? The "doth protest too much" line? Any idea how fucking ridiculous people sound with that over-used, pretentious bullshit? You should be embarrassed. I'm from Jersey/NY myself, and though can be as verbose and articulate as the most "accomplished" speakers and writers, would never be caught spewing that cliche line, in attempts at sounding... what... "witty"? Christ.

I could quote Latin phrases until your fucking head exploded. Just because I "swear" a lot when I'm irritated, does not mean I'm not highly intelligent or articulate. Just means there are times it's not worth the effort, such as with too many of the fools here.

Go ahead... slam the fool OP for starting this thread... as well as me. Unlike him, I actually wont respond, because I know what I've said will strike the nerves of the TRULY self-serving individuals here, pretending to be "oh so dedicated and experienced" in the Lifestyle, with their relative opinions and touchy-feely and/or there's "the right ways to do things in the Lifestyle", bullshit.

I love women... their energy, their sexuality, every inch and curve... and I've a great respect for women (violently protective, actually). I hate men, with all their "chest-puffing" bullshit, and I've fucked-up more than my share of "tough-guys" twice my size over the years. So nothing here has to do with sex, and I'd be glad to stand right in the fucking face of anyone here, personally, and make these same statements. You've no idea who the fuck I am.

So, when I tell "you" that I truly don't give a fuck about your responses, I mean it.

When I "judge" the fools here who judge everyone else, and come-off with their pretentious attitudes that just fucking ooze "Oh, I go to dungeon parties and learned to be a Master/Slave from the grand-fucking-pooba of BDSM, to I'm an accomplished expert", I truly stand fucking behind it.

Too many in the "scene" have fucked perspectives of Masterdom and Slavery, BDSM, control, and all else involved in the Lifestyle and since ignorance makes me fucking violent, I simply had to fucking vent, because this site is full of people who just ooze ignorance and contradictory thinking, they themselves making unprovable statements and biased, linear judgments, and it's just simply fucking ridiculous.

Off with smiles now, because I couldn't give a tossed-fuck about the responses to this.

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 9:44:07 AM   
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Off with smiles now, because I couldn't give a tossed-fuck about the responses to this.

While not disagreeing with everything you wrote (some and some, actually; you make some fair points and some complete toss - in my opinion, obviously), I always wonder about people using phrases like yours, above. Often smacks of insecurity and the envy of an isolated individual.

Bonus points for "limp-dick troglodyte" though. Nice :)

I also suspect you're a sock-puppet, but hey, even sock-puppets can make a point now and again.

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 9:59:50 AM   
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Boy oh boy! I sure hope harduse4you feels better now! That's a lot of pent up anger for a first post and of course he won't mind if I question why he has been around so long that he is angry, that he didn't find a way to enhance what is here rather than to judge it all and lash out with a nick that hides his identity. Lurking is fine, until one wants to blame everyone in some way without first trying to be a solution. (In my opinion.) What point is lashing out if you first haven't tried to be a part of a solution? Why hide away if you have so very much to say? Why try to find a solution now in anger?

Even a point of agreement is lost in the presentation, especially when there are TOS violations and contradictory statements that fill the lashing out, besides the twisting of the words of others. However since he doesn't care what might be said in response to his lashing out and venting, I guess there is no point in going over point by point anything that others might see.

I'm an old broad and I have learned in life, you just can't reason with an angry man and it really would be nice if they communicated before they became so very angry.




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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 10:15:54 AM   
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I'm an old broad and I have learned in life, you just can't reason with an angry man and it really would be nice if they communicated before they became so very angry.

I'd say that applies to women as well as men though. In my experience :)

The thing that struck me was "Posts: 1. Joined: 12/21/2010". Now if that's not a sock-puppet it's someone who has read forums (and of course possibly posted), but didn't feel confident enough to post their opinions under their usual ID. Which I consider a tad cowardly - if I've got something to say I'll say it, as I suspect would 99% of other posters here, and if others don't agree well then that's their opinions and we all have them.

Why someone who wasn't operating a sock-puppet and/or wasn't concerned they'd get found out as someone else would choose that as their first post is beyond me. As I hinted, I reckon it's all just a little bit of bitter :)

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 10:24:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


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I'm an old broad and I have learned in life, you just can't reason with an angry man and it really would be nice if they communicated before they became so very angry.

I'd say that applies to women as well as men though. In my experience :)

The thing that struck me was "Posts: 1. Joined: 12/21/2010". Now if that's not a sock-puppet it's someone who has read forums (and of course possibly posted), but didn't feel confident enough to post their opinions under their usual ID. Which I consider a tad cowardly - if I've got something to say I'll say it, as I suspect would 99% of other posters here, and if others don't agree well then that's their opinions and we all have them.

Why someone who wasn't operating a sock-puppet and/or wasn't concerned they'd get found out as someone else would choose that as their first post is beyond me. As I hinted, I reckon it's all just a little bit of bitter :)



This.

First thing I noticed was the joined date and the statement of having been here lurking for almost the last year.

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 10:34:25 AM   
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Methinks he doth protest too much.


For the love of fuck... seriously? The "doth protest too much" line? Any idea how fucking ridiculous people sound with that over-used, pretentious bullshit? You should be embarrassed. I'm from Jersey/NY myself, and though can be as verbose and articulate as the most "accomplished" speakers and writers, would never be caught spewing that cliche line, in attempts at sounding... what... "witty"? Christ.

I could quote Latin phrases until your fucking head exploded. Just because I "swear" a lot when I'm irritated, does not mean I'm not highly intelligent or articulate. Just means there are times it's not worth the effort, such as with too many of the fools here.

Off with smiles now, because I couldn't give a tossed-fuck about the responses to this.



Awwww...did someone wake up on the wrong side of their crib?

Dude, I like Shakespeare and I only use that line when relevant, as in the case of the OP and now, apparently, in your case.

Oh, by the way, it is very curious that you actually quoted me and did not include quotes by name of anyone else. Have an issue with women speaking up perhaps?

I am not in the least bit embarrassed to coin a phrase or two, simply because anyone who knows me or even knows how I write on the boards, already knows I am intelligent and I don't have to quote Shakespeare to prove it.

Do you also get incensed when reading quotes from other sources or does Shakespeare just rub you the wrong way?

Your long winded post is a riot and very ironic. Go back and read your words; you are yelling at everyone for daring to comment on a message board and yet you are spewing your own one wayisms.

Pats your little head...:)

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 10:35:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue
I'd say that applies to women as well as men though. In my experience :)

The thing that struck me was "Posts: 1. Joined: 12/21/2010". Now if that's not a sock-puppet it's someone who has read forums (and of course possibly posted), but didn't feel confident enough to post their opinions under their usual ID. Which I consider a tad cowardly - if I've got something to say I'll say it, as I suspect would 99% of other posters here, and if others don't agree well then that's their opinions and we all have them.

Why someone who wasn't operating a sock-puppet and/or wasn't concerned they'd get found out as someone else would choose that as their first post is beyond me. As I hinted, I reckon it's all just a little bit of bitter :)


I'd have to say that I agree with the above.  I wonder if folks think they are fooling people when they do this?  I'm even going to go so far as to say I find it uncharacteristic of Dominant behavior.  Wouldn't one think that 'courage of convictions' be something that a Dominant should aspire to count among their personal traits?


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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 10:37:25 AM   
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I'm even going to go so far as to say I find it uncharacteristic of Dominant behavior.  Wouldn't one think that 'courage of convictions' be something that a Dominant should aspire to count among their personal traits?

I would have characterised it more as "not being a wussy little chickenshit" but yes, agreed :)

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RE: What it's not about. - 12/21/2010 10:42:25 AM   
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He peeked........ there's only coal in his Xmas stocking. Bless his heart.

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