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RE: deceptive Master - 12/20/2010 6:43:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bitchdog4master

Hello, I need a Masters point of view here. I am married and have been seeing a Master who is also married. I have been honest and up front with him in all aspects of my life. However, he is deceptive with me.
He's lying to the most important person in his life. You are not the most important person in his life. So, if he'd lie to the most important person in his life to save his sorry ass, what makes you think he'd be any different with you?

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/20/2010 6:48:56 PM   
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He's lying to the most important person in his life. You are not the most important person in his life. So, if he'd lie to the most important person in his life to save his sorry ass, what makes you think he'd be any different with you?


This.

And....you two are perfect for each other.


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RE: deceptive Master - 12/20/2010 7:00:08 PM   
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Women are like monkeys though, they do not release the hand behind them before the branch in front of them is securely in their grubby meathooks. 



Damn tiny branches

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/20/2010 10:53:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bitchdog4master

Hello, I need a Masters point of view here. I am married and have been seeing a Master who is also married. I have been honest and up front with him in all aspects of my life. However, he is deceptive with me. He has lied 2 times about his profession, lied about how many kids he has.He says he is a private person-hell, I don't think he is telling me his real first name! He calls me, but blocks his # so I can't see it. He has a ton of pics. of me, but will not even acknowledge that I have asked him for a pic. When we meet, he is always there first and backs his escalade up to a brick wall so the plate can not be seen. Ther is no plate on the front. Then when we part he makes sure I go b/4 him ( I sure it is so I won't get his plate numbers) What is wrong with him?? I am on the verge of breaking it off.
One time he told me he was checking out for a few weeks and would explain why when he checked back in. 5 weeks went by b/4 I heard from him, and even though I asked what happened, he ignored my question. Yes, I am very submissive-but even I have a breaking point. It had been 4 days since I have heard from him. Finally today he writes and says he is out of state, in the mountains with extended family and was just able to get email!! He didn't even tell me he was leaving. Please Masters out there, should I just continue to go on with him or do you think he is in the wrong?



Continuing with this relationship that began on a deceptive foundation will surely produce more of its kind, if left unaddressed. Obviously there are far too many issues to address when a relationship begins without adding to the list of expected issues that arise. You will need to decide if this is what you like and feel you deserve, therein is your answer. Oh yes, don’t forget to consider everyone else into the equation. If you do not then of course you will create more issues to address within the already entangled mess that appears to currently need a major revision.

Take care!

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 2:01:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		It doesn't sound like a perfect match; it sounds like a perfect fantasy. In other words, y'all postin' in a troll thread.

Some people will go to great lengths to convince you they're being fucked with. They are not; they are doing the fucking, and the 'with' is anyone within range of the tale.


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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 3:56:10 AM   
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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 5:17:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zevar


Continuing with this relationship that began on a deceptive foundation will surely produce more of its kind, if left unaddressed. Obviously there are far too many issues to address when a relationship begins without adding to the list of expected issues that arise. You will need to decide if this is what you like and feel you deserve, therein is your answer. Oh yes, don’t forget to consider everyone else into the equation. If you do not then of course you will create more issues to address within the already entangled mess that appears to currently need a major revision.

Take care!


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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 5:45:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

If it looks like a duck, and it swims like a duck, and it quaks like a duck, you can bet it's not an armadillo.



yeah... it's probably a Pigeon trying to upscale to a Duck.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 5:52:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you enjoy being lied to on a regular basis, then by all means stay with him. If you want to be able to trust your partner, then lose the lying asshole.  Your profile says you are 45 years old and this isn't brain surgery. Use your head for more than a hole for him to stick his dick in and answer your own damn question for fucks sake.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 5:54:00 AM   
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I'd have put it more nicely but


I would have too, but I just wasn't in that kind of mood today.


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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 6:08:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		My husband are seperated and divorcing. He knows about my off again on again with M who lives quite far away. M's wife has not a clue.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 6:15:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		He lies to his wife. What makes you believe he will be honest with you? You knew about his ability to lie to those around him when you started your relationship with him. Honestly, i dont believe you have grounds to bitch now.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 6:54:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bitchdog4master

My husband are seperated and divorcing. He knows about my off again on again with M who lives quite far away. M's wife has not a clue.


Ok, so what is it about this Master that makes you want to stay with him?

The part you have written about obviously doesn't feel good to you or it wouldn't be an issue. As stated by you, this is not a new issue.

Is it something about this guy or is it that you settled on what you thought you could get... that being wanted by someone was important enough that you decided this is all you are worth.

Only you can answer that question.
But in either case I think maybe you should take a refresher course on sub-frenzy and figure out what you really want.

From what you posted here, and from your profile, it does not seem as though living in a way to communicate and actualize your wants and needs in an open, honest and direct manner is something you are very adept at.

It is very difficult to find happiness in relationships (or life for that matter) that way.

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Just a thought -

< Message edited by angelikaJ -- 12/21/2010 7:16:27 AM >

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 7:21:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bitchdog4master

M's wife has not a clue.
He's a lying cheater who is using you for a booty call. Seriously, look at his behavior. You're a bang to him and you're expecting some sort of honest relationship.

Finish your divorce and go meet someone who is worth your time and energy. You're 45 and this isn't brain surgery.

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Please Masters out there, should I just continue to go on with him or do you think he is in the wrong?
Every person so far has told you he's a piece of crap.....and you're still here looking for someone to say he's a prince.


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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 7:37:57 AM   
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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 7:53:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Deceptive Master - what else is new

Delusional Sub - seriously, get a clue

I hope you have no kids, truly.

I just read your profile and find it sad.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 8:05:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bitchdog4master

My husband are seperated and divorcing. He knows about my off again on again with M who lives quite far away.

Your profile says something different.
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M's wife has not a clue.

That you know of. This is a guy who is taking extreme measures to make sure you can't possibly get his license plate. You have no way to check his story about anything.

While I'm usually not this cynical, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes home and tells his wife all the details to her amusement and arousal.


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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 8:40:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Look, OP, despite my handling my relationships above board inside my own four walls, I thought I could handle someone not doing the same once.  The excuses can sound so very...understandable.  They aren't.  They are lies and nothing more.  This is one of my deepest shames that I ever did that.  You don't like being lied to and someone keeping secrets?  How about being the unsuspecting spouse with everything she has legally bound to someone doing this to her?  Can you even comprehend how she will feel if EVER she discovers the truth (provided people are not spot on in saying that she is in on your suffering)?  Does it even matter to you?  I couldn't stand the idea of the pain I would cause some other innocent person by my low standards.  I really couldn't face myself during that time.  At the end of the day, OP, it's your life and you have to be able to face yourself.  At the end of the day, it's your well being and happiness that is being compromised or you wouldn't even be here asking these questions.  Everyone has made it abundantly clear what the basic consensus is.  Take the advice or leave it.  It really affects me or anyone else here not one bit.  Make excuses and turn thing around in your head all you want and things still are what they are.  Take it from someone who has been down a despicable road like this.  Your justifications change nothing. 

lovingpet


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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 10:19:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

Look, OP, despite my handling my relationships above board inside my own four walls, I thought I could handle someone not doing the same once.  The excuses can sound so very...understandable.  They aren't.  They are lies and nothing more.  This is one of my deepest shames that I ever did that.  You don't like being lied to and someone keeping secrets?  How about being the unsuspecting spouse with everything she has legally bound to someone doing this to her?  Can you even comprehend how she will feel if EVER she discovers the truth (provided people are not spot on in saying that she is in on your suffering)?  Does it even matter to you?  I couldn't stand the idea of the pain I would cause some other innocent person by my low standards.  I really couldn't face myself during that time.  At the end of the day, OP, it's your life and you have to be able to face yourself.  At the end of the day, it's your well being and happiness that is being compromised or you wouldn't even be here asking these questions.  Everyone has made it abundantly clear what the basic consensus is.  Take the advice or leave it.  It really affects me or anyone else here not one bit.  Make excuses and turn thing around in your head all you want and things still are what they are.  Take it from someone who has been down a despicable road like this.  Your justifications change nothing. 

lovingpet



Such profound wisdom born of experience. It's great when people learn from their mistakes.... and have the courage to admit it. I have seen other posts of yours and love every one of them.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 11:29:24 AM   
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