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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 7:29:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: SAMHAIN09

The only thing I find wrong is that he and you are married.

The only thing i find wrong is you trying to push your moral judgment on someone who has different kinks as you...

LPs relationship is COMPLETELY different from the ops.

If 2 or 3 or 4 consenting adults agree to have an open or poly relationship where everyone knows, its not deceptive, its not wrong its just different. Its not for me, but it is for a lot of people.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 8:51:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

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ORIGINAL: SAMHAIN09

The only thing I find wrong is that he and you are married.

The only thing i find wrong is you trying to push your moral judgment on someone who has different kinks as you...

LPs relationship is COMPLETELY different from the ops.

If 2 or 3 or 4 consenting adults agree to have an open or poly relationship where everyone knows, its not deceptive, its not wrong its just different. Its not for me, but it is for a lot of people.

Thank you for this. I interpreted the post differently to refer to you as the OP and he as her master. I have no idea which is correct now.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/21/2010 11:18:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: bitchdog4master

Hello, I need a Masters point of view here. I am married and have been seeing a Master who is also married. I have been honest and up front with him in all aspects of my life. However, he is deceptive with me. He has lied 2 times about his profession, lied about how many kids he has.He says he is a private person-hell, I don't think he is telling me his real first name! He calls me, but blocks his # so I can't see it. He has a ton of pics. of me, but will not even acknowledge that I have asked him for a pic. When we meet, he is always there first and backs his escalade up to a brick wall so the plate can not be seen. Ther is no plate on the front. Then when we part he makes sure I go b/4 him ( I sure it is so I won't get his plate numbers) What is wrong with him?? I am on the verge of breaking it off.
One time he told me he was checking out for a few weeks and would explain why when he checked back in. 5 weeks went by b/4 I heard from him, and even though I asked what happened, he ignored my question. Yes, I am very submissive-but even I have a breaking point. It had been 4 days since I have heard from him. Finally today he writes and says he is out of state, in the mountains with extended family and was just able to get email!! He didn't even tell me he was leaving. Please Masters out there, should I just continue to go on with him or do you think he is in the wrong?

He's playing you. Big time.

i don't know if i'm willing to say that you don't deserve it because well, people tend to attract people that they share commonalities with and you're a liar too.

Why is it that it's okay for you to lie, but it's reprehensibile for him to do the same thing? Are you envious that he's able to cover his tracks better?

You keep asking what's wrong with him, i'm wondering what's wrong with you. You say you've been honest and up front with him...well, i think the transparency needs to be with your husband as well. Because, HE'S YOUR HUSBAND!! If you're not happy, leave your husband and let him find someone who deserves him. You certainly don't seem to.

You're a grown woman, act like it.

Oh, and in case you can't tell...lying and cheating is frowned upon within D/s lifestyles as well so, don't be surprised that you haven't gotten a whole lot of sympathy.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/22/2010 12:10:08 AM

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SSC. Safe, sane, consensual. Are your partners consenting to this relationship? You state, emphatically, that his wife is not.

Rack. Risk-awareness consensual kink.

Risk does not imply Safe; it implies that there can be dangers that have to be weighed before engaging in any activity. It somewhat implies that what we do is in fact dangerous. When you enter a relationship with someone, its no longer "just you" taking the risk.

Aware: Do you accept those risks and are you aware of what the possibilities are if something should go wrong and they should befall you? Acceptance means that yes, you are aware of the risk involved and that you knowingly and willingly accept those risks. There is no debate about whether or not it's Sane. Aware means that you, after weighing the risks to the enjoyment and benefit of the activity, to YOU that it is sane and that you can make an informed decision. It re-enforces the fact that what we do is in fact up to the individuals participating. It's honest. But your partner may not accept those risks. If they are not aware, then they dont even know the risks involved. Clearly no honesty there.

I borrowed the italicized parts from a web site.

http://www.leathernroses.com/generalbdsm/medlinssc.htm

Regardless of which you follow for your BDSM activities, you and your Master are following neither. Lying to your primary partner instead of owning up to a failed relationship is neither consensual nor aware, imo.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/22/2010 12:33:00 AM

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For a second there, I thought My name was being called into question. Let Me advise you on that. Don't. Don't ever compare our poly family to the kind of chicken-shit bullshit that is described in this OP. I never, and I mean ever, want to be associated with the kind of situation that is outlined here. It sickens Me.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/22/2010 12:43:42 AM

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LP, if you believe i am equating your relationship with clip to the OP's, im sorry, that was not my intention, nor what i believe i posted. In fact, i have not posted about you or clip on this thread at all. Both you and clip have an honest, open relationship, that you have both posted was above board with all partners involved.

Im not sure how you thought i was comparing yours to the OP's delusional relationship. Other than pointing out the difference between honesty and lies.

< Message edited by tazzygirl -- 12/22/2010 12:47:28 AM >

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/22/2010 1:00:28 AM

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tazzy, oh hell no! LOL. I don't think for a moment. If anything, I tend to think that you understand poly relationships more than most.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/22/2010 1:06:12 AM

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Whew! obviously i need more sleep!

To be honest, LP, i respect your opinion alot.. well.. as much as someone can from knowing them only on a message board. (Had to toss that last bit in before i heard from the "its only the internet crew"

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/22/2010 7:58:52 AM

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I think you can get some idea of a person from a message board, tazzy. Especially after banging around the same boards for years, such as we've done. Perhaps we'll have the opportunity to meet in person at some point so that we'll be able to put the whole online thing aside and just be folks who know each other. I kind of like that idea.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/22/2010 8:03:24 AM

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~grins

As long as that meeting doesnt take place in the same room as that cross in your picture, im all game!

Something about combining being a semi-brat and crosses just doesnt sit well with me.

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/22/2010 10:02:37 PM

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Isn't this like the kettle calling the pot black?

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RE: deceptive Master - 12/23/2010 11:00:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather
Short answer, being submissive does not equal being stupid. If you would not take this kind of treatment in a normal relationship, you should not take it in a D/s one. Unless of course, this is how you like being treated, as some do

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
You're lying to your husband, he's lying to his wife. You're being stupid enough that someone could tell your husband the truth. He's being smart enough that his wife won't find out.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Well, it occurs to Me that your <cough> Master <cough> probably knows that you are just waiting to leave your husband and wants to be sure that he's not the one that you latch onto should your husband find out and toss you out on your ear. It seems rather obvious to Me that he doesn't want you rocking the boat in the marriage that he has no intention of screwing up over your sake. I'm sure that you're ok as far as fitting his convenience of having his cake and eating it, too, but not anything more than that. That old adage about reaping what you sow applies here.

Oh, and since we're evaluating the niceness of the replies, trust Me. That was the nice version.

Umm, yeah. ALL of the above. And, yeah. You deserve each other.

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