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RE: Barney Frank De-Balls A Wingnut - 12/27/2010 5:52:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CerVeza

Bawny Fwank, the chief author of the mortgage meltdown!



I think you have him confused with Goldman Sachs.

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RE: Barney Frank De-Balls A Wingnut - 12/27/2010 10:34:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

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ORIGINAL: CerVeza

Bawny Fwank, the chief author of the mortgage meltdown!



I think you have him confused with Goldman Sachs.


Frank was the author, GS just one of the characters.

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RE: Barney Frank De-Balls A Wingnut - 12/27/2010 1:37:28 PM   
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While it's rare for Me to make contributions in this section, any time I that I do so, I attempt to keep to the subject at hand. I'm not looking at Frank's entire political career. I'm looking at the interview on one subject.


Okay, but I’m not really sure why you seem to think I was singling you out. It was just a general comment to everybody that if you are going to dislike (or even hate) someone, it should be over their character and not over innate matters like sexuality.

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In this, I think you are skipping something. My belief is that there is an additional vulnerability in the case of women and men and gay men and straight men in the same circumstances. We know that acts of sexual assault against women have little to do with sexual acts themselves. It's about violence. In the case of men and women with equal defensive training, such acts of violence can be easier to commit. Not especially the same case when we are talking about people of the same gender. Let's not forget the spikes that were experienced in reports by women who were being sexually assaulted when women were integrated into certain areas. That's a little more than feeling awkward.


Yes but I’m not talking about people committing sexual assault. People who are prone to commit sexual violence are likely to do so regardless of whatever laws, regulations, etc, we have. In those cases, the best we can do is apply the law. I’m simply talking about the fact that our modesty (whether it is something inborn or culturally attributed) can make us uncomfortable having strangers gawking at us in an obviously sexual way - whether those strangers are of the same or opposite sex - and, that if people can't overcome that, then they should avoid situations where it is likely to happen.

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RE: Barney Frank De-Balls A Wingnut - 12/27/2010 2:05:24 PM   
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Okay, but I’m not really sure why you seem to think I was singling you out. It was just a general comment to everybody that if you are going to dislike (or even hate) someone, it should be over their character and not over innate matters like sexuality.

Wasn't taking it there.  I'm just saying that the responses during the interview itself, where what I was basing My comments on.  I don't think I could look at any person with a political career that I feel the exactly the same about them across the board.  A three and a half minute clip?  This one in particular was good.

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Yes but I’m not talking about people committing sexual assault. People who are prone to commit sexual violence are likely to do so regardless of whatever laws, regulations, etc, we have. In those cases, the best we can do is apply the law. I’m simply talking about the fact that our modesty (whether it is something inborn or culturally attributed) can make us uncomfortable having strangers gawking at us in an obviously sexual way - whether those strangers are of the same or opposite sex - and, that if people can't overcome that, then they should avoid situations where it is likely to happen.

I'd agree with a good deal of this.  Quite a bit of it actually.

Though, I think you provided an excellent example in your earlier comment.  It's not like folks were letting the apparent 'rise to the occasion' during showers make them uncomfortable before.  Just because they know which way a person swings isn't going to mean that community showers will be full of hard-ons everywhere.

Thanks for providing the best kinky visual that I've had the entire day! 


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