Real0ne
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ok...
very simply put, citizenship is determined by what club you join.
The united states is many things.
geographic
political
association
corporation
all rolled up into one neet little package deal that when you read these regs you get to guess which version they are talking about.
The truth is the reality. Could anyone sue dubya? immune
can you sue a foreign state? immune
when it comes to allegiance there is an old biblical saying, a slave can only serve one master and allegiance (citizenship) works on precisely that premise.
if you take allegiance to russia you are no longer a governed by the laws of america and you now come under the laaws of russia. (except of course if you live here in which case you are not totally exempt but damn close IF you have the clout to enforce it)
ok for the oath....
Its really extremely simple.
This is "stuff" they never teach you in school.
In fact as 99 out of 100 attorneys and they cannot answer it either.
you need to start with "what is a state"
all states are democracies.
all states are body politics.
all states require an *absolute* minimum of a quorum, 3 people.
3 people are a political democracy.
all corporations, associations, franchises and so forth are body politics
all states are sovereign and have immunity from interference from other states.
all corporations are sovereign and have immunity from each other.
ie: ibm does not have to obey microsofts rules.
If you swear allegiance to the united states body politic you become a member of the united states club
if you like in new york you have allegiance not only to the united states club (as you can traverse all 50 states), but you also have allegiance to the new york club.
think about it like joining a family in a poly situation.
If you live with the jones you follow jones rules and with the smiths you follow smiths rules.
the smiths are immune from the jones rules except for any treaties they may create between themselves for amity and commity etc.
Now that said you can see that if you join one family you leave another.
that is called sovereign immunity.
all body politics operate under one name; THE UNITED STATES (one name for a group of many STATES)
THE STATE OF NEW YORK (one name for a group of many people)
MICROSOFT (one name for a group of many people)
BAR ASSOCIATION (one name for a group of many CRIMINALS)
Hence when one corporation sues another they sue the whole "body politic" under the single name of MICROSOFT rather than listing every member within the body politic as a party to the suit.
While the 50 states are sovereign from each other they are bound to the fed by the constitution and likewise the original 13 are bound by the articles of confederation.
every democracy is foreign to all other democracies just as you are a foreign body to me. I do not govern you any more than you govern me.
So now think about that when you read these acts and it becomes instantly apparent that when they take an oath to anything other than the republic (single individuals severally) they are taking an oath to a democracy or a certain club.
If they are in one club it goes without saying they are not "exclusively" in your club and working for you. They are now working for the club they joined.
the united states club is not your club and represents the democracy not the republic.
Not sure if that helps but that is the most simple way I can think of explaining it.
Its extremely simple setup in fact its so simple and so in your face that people cannot connect with the core foundational aspects of it.
When shown in the correct light it gives people a whole new dimension of how the matrix truly works. Its impossible to know unless you know and intimately understand the very essence of the matrix.
Well there you have it. Now you can see why they can do anything they want and get out of it. In fact I have a supreme court case somewhere on the matter.
here is some kool stuff for you to look at.
a certificate is issued to proclaim title exists.
Now ask yourself what happened when you got a birth certificate.
quote:
HYPOTHECATION. A right which a creditor has over a thing belonging to another, and which consists in a power to cause it to be sold, in order to be paid his claim out of the proceeds. There are two species of hypothecation, one called pledge, pignus, and the other properly denominated hypothecation. Pledge Is that species of hypothecation which is contracted by the delivery by the debtor to the creditor of the thing hypothecated. Hypothecation, properly so called, is that which is contracted without delivery of the thing hypothecated; 2 Bell, Com. 25.
pledged any allegiances lately?
sorta puts a whole new dimension to the word "patriot" dunit?
Anyway, there is an EXTREMELY fine line between government and business.
What has been done is government and business have been combined under "commerce". Once under commerce you as a living breathing soul now become nothing more than a commodity and asset of a corporation.
Look at how they treat people, busting their doors down killing them with tazers providing services at the end of a barrel of a gun and so forth and so on.
Look up the statute merchant and tell me what your state statues are. Its all commercial! you have been hypothecated and monetized and lost your identity to a commercial venue.
No one understands what "government" really is. They are all caught up in the bullshit to see whats in front of their faces... drowning in an inch of water because they dont know that all they need to do is raise their head up one inch.
They cannot leave the government side of the equation without expatriating.
oh and you forgot about these:
quote:
Title 22 USC (Foreign Relations and Intercourse) Chapter 11 identifies public officials as foreign agents.
· Title 28 USC 3002 Section 15A states that the United States is a Federal Corporation.
· Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (FRCP) 4j states that the Court jurisdiction and immunity fall under a foreign State.
< Message edited by Real0ne -- 1/5/2011 4:07:54 AM >
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