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rulemylife -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/5/2011 4:43:50 PM)
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
oh, Goodie!
Let's start first with your third point:
Third, what he is investing in is hardly proven technology nor guaranteed that it will ever make money. He is taking a risk on things that may never be viable.
Is it just because you don't believe in climate change that you and others want to dredge up anything to discredit someone who does?
Tell me again about your theories on ideological blinders and bias. I need a good bedtime story
Yes, let's talk about "ideological blinders and bias", my friend.
If you had bothered to read my linked post a year ago, in the Climategate thread, you would have found the original context concerning my post about the money that Al Gore has made:
For rule, primarily (I'm still riding that horse, even if you don't want to participate), and all the others who claim that a single penny accepted from any organization or person who may .. just may ... have a vested interest in a subject automatically excludes anything that they may publish, or say from the "creditable" list of sources:
and then, later in my post ...
Now, personally, I think Gore has been damn savy about his combined "invest" and "propagandize" strategy to get rich, whatever his motivations.
My point, however, is that if you (and your "side") wish to denounce the acquisition of a single dollar as sufficient to blacklist someone's (or some institute's, or some thinktank's) from the debate ... then anything that Al Gore has said, or touched over the last 30 years is certainly deemed adequately besmirched to be thrown out, and disregarded.
And, in fact, if you use the same reasoning, not only should everything he has been involved in besmirched, his own moral and personal code of ethics doesn't measure up (your standard), and instead of a "prophet", or a "visionary", you should classify him as a greedy capitalist exploiter and demagogue.
Do you?
So, my first counter-point is that I will now feel free to totally dismiss your and every other AGW proponent's claim that a single dollar of research funding into "Climate Change" provided by an "evil oil company" discounts results of such research.
My second point is that I already think Gore was a pretty savvy investor ... and kudos to him for it, as I have already said.
My third point is that it is your own ideological biases that are on display.
My fourth point is that my post in this thread was in direct support of Popeye's claim, and your request to "show you the money". Specifically, in post 75 he said (slightly modified for clarity):
And the $100 Million he made off of this farce doesn't have anything to do with it does it? Anyone who believes this guy probably believes those t.v. preachers with bad haircuts!
Where is Eric Holder on this? He should be pressing criminal charges against Gore for swindling so many people out of their money.
And now Gore has some new hobbies, yachting, mansions and corvorting with prostitutes!
And the "global warming" morons actually listen to this guy? This is a sickness like those 9-11 "truthers", a form of mental illness.
Too bad I didn't go to Harvard's Divinity School, I too could be an "expert" on "global warming." As any good detective knows, "always follow the money!"
You responded twice on the point that Popeye was making (that Al Gore was making a lot of money off of "Global Warming"):
Your post 87:
Why don't you show us what a good detective you are and follow that money.
Show me the $100 million that he made.
Your post 89 (in response to a comment from EternalHoH :
I've asked several times on this thread and so far no one has been able to tell me how he is "getting obscenely rich doing it".
Care to educate me?
Your responses had condescending connotations ("show me what a good detective you are" and "Care to educate me?"). All I did was respond for them, with creditable sources to show that Gore is and has indeed made a lot of money off of "Global Warming", and $100 million is likely quite a bit low as an estimate. And without a bit of commentary as to the morality of him doing so.
You didn't seem to wish to gracefully accept that your attempt to undercut both Popeye and EternalHoH has come to naught, and it now appears that you have decided to throw down the false scent of my "ideological biases" with that slight twist of condescension once more (" I need a good bedtime story").
Anything else you'd like to discuss before your bedtime? [8D][:)]
Firm
edited to fix a broken link
Yes, I would like to discuss a lot of it.
But I'll settle for this, because long-winded posts tend to irritate me when I have to read them so I attempt not to make too many myself.
You and the others keep telling me about all this money he is making, but I still have no proof of that.
You know the difference between saying something and proving it, so show me the evidence.
You keep referring back to this post of yours from a year ago that I supposedly ignored.
I can't remember posts from last week, let alone a year ago to tell you whether I ever saw it back then or not. It is quite possible I missed it. As much as I breathlessly await your every pearl of wisdom, there are only so many hours in a day.
So let's go back to that post you are so proud of, the one that you think ultimately proves what you are saying is true.
It was primarily based on his involvement in Kleiner-Perkins and his questioning by Marsha Blackburn. During that questioning before a House committee he clearly and explicitly stated that all the proceeds of his investments were donated to his non-profit organization.
And by the way, there is no "slight twist of condescension". I have no problem being openly condescending to those who post unsubstantiated ideological nonsense as proof of their claims.
So let's take a little different look at the smoking gun video that you claim proves Al Gore is making these enormous profits.
And for you folks at home, feel free to laugh along with Uncle Al and the the rest of the people listening and laughing to the testimony as he mocks his interrogator.
Al Gore Embarrasses Another Republican Fool
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