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pahunkboy -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/5/2011 6:04:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CerVeza

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/religion.htm


Thats true.  I seen them praying to some fake gods at Cancun at the summit.




tazzygirl -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/5/2011 6:07:49 PM)

Mother nature has a canny way of healing herself. The human race just has to worry about which method she decides to use.




pahunkboy -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/5/2011 6:56:25 PM)

Hypocrite George Monbiot Condemns Large, Expensive Homes – Except His Own. The latest example of global warming hypocrisy by George Monbiot is especially breath-taking in its sheer scale and audacity.




FirmhandKY -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/5/2011 9:59:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

It was primarily based on his involvement in Kleiner-Perkins and his questioning by Marsha Blackburn.  During that questioning before a House committee he clearly and explicitly stated that all the proceeds of his investments were donated to his non-profit organization.

"... that all the proceeds of his investments were donated to his non-profit organization ..."

You need to relisten, and rethink.  He did claim to donate some of his proceeds from some of "creative work", but none from his business and investment dealings.

Did you even think about his "carbon offset" scheme?  That is a classic.  I admire the man's guts to do something like that, his intelligence to think it up, and his audacity to implement it.


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

So let's take a little different look at the smoking gun video that you claim proves Al Gore is making these enormous profits. 

And for you folks at home, feel free to laugh along with Uncle Al and the the rest of the people listening and laughing to the testimony as he mocks his interrogator.

Al Gore Embarrasses Another Republican Fool

You are conflating me with someone else, I suppose.  I've never made any such claim about any video.  I referred to a New York Times article, I believe.

Regardless of the source, I don't see how you can even think that Al Gore has given all of his money to charity.  How does he fly his jet around, and pay for the electric bills on his mansions, not to mention his gas bill for his SVU's?

His US Government pension?  His father's wealth?

Dig a bit deeper, rule.

Firm




anthrosub -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/6/2011 4:38:39 PM)

This whole save the earth thing is funny to me. The earth is doing fine and could care less what we do one way or the other. But this does not mean climate change isn't real. What we are seeing right now is a big debate on whether we should say the hell with it and burn the candle at both ends and the middle or start thinking long term and use our resources wisely and in a more sustainable manner.

Personally I like the saying, "What a man can do a man will do but believe what you want." That is going to be the fate of the human race. Folks in the developed parts of the world live in the age of instant gratification and they'll be damned if they are going to have that taken away from them. What was once a luxury is now a necessity. When we have pushed it all past the point of no return, then and only then will people get the picture...maybe.




pogo4pres -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/6/2011 6:22:47 PM)

FR

I quote from Michael Crichton's 1990 novel Jurassic Park, pages 367, 368, & 369. the conversation is between John Hammond, (JH) and Dr Malcolm, (DM)

JH:  "Well at least disaster is averted"
DM: "What disaster is that?"
JH: "Well at least they didn't get free and overrun the world"
DM: "You were worried about that?"
JH: "Surely that is what was at stake, these animals , lacking predators, might get out and destroy the planet"
DM: "You EGOMANIACAL IDIOT, do you have any idea what you are talking about?  You think you can destroy the planet"  My, what intoxicating power you must have.  You can not destroy this planet.  You can't even  come close."
JH: " Most people believe that the planet is in jeopardy"
DM: "Well it's not"
JH: "All the experts agree our planet is in trouble."
DM: "Let me tell you about our planet. Our planet is four and a half BILLION years old.  There has been life on this planet for nearly that long.  Three point eight billion years.  The first bacteria.  And, later the first multicellular animals, then the first complex creatures, in the sea, on the land.  Then the great sweeping ages of animals--the amphibians, the dinosaurs, the mammals, each lasting millions upon millions of years.  Great dynasties of creatures arising, flourishing, dying away.  All this happening against a background of continuous and violent upheaval, mountain ranges thrust up and eroding away, cometary impacts, volcanic eruptions, oceans rising and falling, whole continents moving...endless constant and violent change...even today the greatest geographical feature on the planet comes from two great continents colliding, buckling to make the Himalayan mountain range, over millions of years.  This planet has survived everything, in its time.  It will certainly survive us."
JH: "Just because it has lasted a long time doesn't mean it is permanent.  If there was a radiation accident...."
DM: "Suppose there was, lets say it was a bad one, and all the plants and animals died, and the earth was clicking hot for a hundred thousand years.  Life would survive somewhere---under the soil, or perhaps frozen in the Arctic ice.  And after all those years, when the planet was no longer inhospitable, life would again spread over the planet.  The evolutionary process would begin again.  It might take a few billion years for life to regain its present variety.  And of course it would be very different from what it is now.  But the earth would survive our folly.  Life would survive our folly.  Only WE think it wouldn't.  

/Snip

JH: "So what are you saying?  We shouldn't care about the environment?"
DM: "No of course not"
JH: "Then what?"
DM: "Lets be clear. THE PLANET IN NOT IN JEOPARDY. WE ARE IN  JEOPARDY. We haven't got the power to destroy the planet---or to save it.   BUT WE MIGHT HAVE THE POWER TO SAVE OURSELVES."


Those three pages, boys and girls amount to the single most succinct summation of our current situation I have ever read.  Not even the current science is so clear on the point, WE ARE IN JEOPARDY, "the earth will heal herself long after we are gone.  We are trying to save our own sorry asses."*


Succinctly,
Some Knucklehead in NJ

* Apologies to Graham Nash for cribbing his quote on the environment in the last sentence.






pahunkboy -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/6/2011 6:23:59 PM)

Says the man who uses a carbon belching clothes dryer.  HA




pogo4pres -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/6/2011 6:28:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Says the man who uses a carbon belching clothes dryer.  HA



Hey dope I use a clothes line for most of my drying needs foolio.  You do not know me, and make a complete jack ass of yourself when you say shit like that.


Pointedly,
Some Knucklehead in NJ




pahunkboy -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/6/2011 6:34:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Says the man who uses a carbon belching clothes dryer.  HA



Hey dope I use a clothes line for most of my drying needs foolio.  You do not know me, and make a complete jack ass of yourself when you say shit like that.


Pointedly,
Some Knucklehead in NJ



Then you are the exception.

Most of us are very wasteful-  and phony when it comes to the nitty gritty of cutting consumption.




anthrosub -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/6/2011 6:44:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pogo4pres

FR

I quote from Michael Crichton's 1990 novel Jurassic Park, pages 367, 368, & 369. the conversation is between John Hammond, (JH) and Dr Malcolm, (DM)

JH:  "Well at least disaster is averted"
DM: "What disaster is that?"
JH: "Well at least they didn't get free and overrun the world"
DM: "You were worried about that?"
JH: "Surely that is what was at stake, these animals , lacking predators, might get out and destroy the planet"
DM: "You EGOMANIACAL IDIOT, do you have any idea what you are talking about?  You think you can destroy the planet"  My, what intoxicating power you must have.  You can not destroy this planet.  You can't even  come close."
JH: " Most people believe that the planet is in jeopardy"
DM: "Well it's not"
JH: "All the experts agree our planet is in trouble."
DM: "Let me tell you about our planet. Our planet is four and a half BILLION years old.  There has been life on this planet for nearly that long.  Three point eight billion years.  The first bacteria.  And, later the first multicellular animals, then the first complex creatures, in the sea, on the land.  Then the great sweeping ages of animals--the amphibians, the dinosaurs, the mammals, each lasting millions upon millions of years.  Great dynasties of creatures arising, flourishing, dying away.  All this happening against a background of continuous and violent upheaval, mountain ranges thrust up and eroding away, cometary impacts, volcanic eruptions, oceans rising and falling, whole continents moving...endless constant and violent change...even today the greatest geographical feature on the planet comes from two great continents colliding, buckling to make the Himalayan mountain range, over millions of years.  This planet has survived everything, in its time.  It will certainly survive us."
JH: "Just because it has lasted a long time doesn't mean it is permanent.  If there was a radiation accident...."
DM: "Suppose there was, lets say it was a bad one, and all the plants and animals died, and the earth was clicking hot for a hundred thousand years.  Life would survive somewhere---under the soil, or perhaps frozen in the Arctic ice.  And after all those years, when the planet was no longer inhospitable, life would again spread over the planet.  The evolutionary process would begin again.  It might take a few billion years for life to regain its present variety.  And of course it would be very different from what it is now.  But the earth would survive our folly.  Life would survive our folly.  Only WE think it wouldn't.  

/Snip

JH: "So what are you saying?  We shouldn't care about the environment?"
DM: "No of course not"
JH: "Then what?"
DM: "Lets be clear. THE PLANET IN NOT IN JEOPARDY. WE ARE IN  JEOPARDY. We haven't got the power to destroy the planet---or to save it.   BUT WE MIGHT HAVE THE POWER TO SAVE OURSELVES."


Those three pages, boys and girls amount to the single most succinct summation of our current situation I have ever read.  Not even the current science is so clear on the point, WE ARE IN JEOPARDY, "the earth will heal herself long after we are gone.  We are trying to save our own sorry asses."*


Succinctly,
Some Knucklehead in NJ

* Apologies to Graham Nash for cribbing his quote on the environment in the last sentence.






Bingo




tazzygirl -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/6/2011 8:33:30 PM)

Mother nature will heal herself. We, as humans, may not like she does so.




pahunkboy -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/7/2011 5:11:39 AM)

This is why weather modification, HAARP and cloud seeding are so important.

Isn't it interesting how they seed the clouds with depleted uraniun?




DomKen -> RE: FLASHBACK: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across World Vanishing Quickly... (1/7/2011 1:17:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

This is why weather modification, HAARP and cloud seeding are so important.

Isn't it interesting how they seed the clouds with depleted uraniun?


It would be if they did but they don't.




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