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Does that explain my point a little better? I'm concerned I didn't express myself clearly the first time.

Better yes. Though that brings up a different point of why. I, for example, have no problem with sex work and there is a good chance (at least as good as that I would take any job) that I would take such a position at least for awhile at some point in my life if it were legal and if society didn't bring such heavy social and legal consequences upon the 'tarnished' - term used very sarcastically - and those affiliated with them. If, for example, I were to become a whore and you dropped me off a house where a client was waiting for me you could be charged with the felony of pimping, despite having arranged nothing. And if I were raped or beaten, say because I refuse to work without a condom, I would have have little ability to seek justice.

So if we are going to look at it in the context of "most who could do something else, do", we also have to look at the variables that influence someone to choose a different trade. Similar to how a person may choose to carry on a family line of work despite not being particularly interested in it themselves, may choose a career simply because it's good for money or family, etc.

I suppose it may boil down to if you consider the above factors to be something that goes hand-in-hand with sex work and completely unavoidable or if these factors could be removed - or at least significantly reduced - through legalization and protection. The latter is what I happen to believe.

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I know this sounds glib, but I don't actually care enough to bother thinking too much about it :)

I don't use prostitutes, never will, and I'll never be one, so while I'm sort of "interested" in a vague way about the subject, it's not fascinating enough to hold my world-famously short attention span :)

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Right, now what I don't get is why it should be in some private home? Admittedly I am damned picky about who I have sex with and the whole idea of feeling like a prostitute or having sex with several guys (with or without monopoly money) just doesn't appeal, but if somebody is into that, why would they not simply go to a swinger club?

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The OP is a new poster it seems--and I truly don't believe his post warrants some of the hostility that has reigned down upon him, but I have to admit, CollarMe is ROUGH on new posters. 

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The OP is a new poster it seems--and I truly don't believe his post warrants some of the hostility that has reigned down upon him, but I have to admit, CollarMe is ROUGH on new posters. 

CM is not at all "rough" on new posters compared to many forums on other subjects elsewhere on the net. Interestingly, this very point came up earlier today on another thread. What there certainly are, are a number of people who think that everyone should be treated with kid gloves. Needless to say I don't agree with that methodology.

I look at this thread and all I see are people having a laugh at something funny, and a few voicing concerns, which they're entitled to do. Don't want responses? Then don't post anything. Simple.

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well, I've enjoyed all the monopoly puns too...and I agree with your comment that if one doesn't want comments (which includes criticism) that one shouldn't post.  Seems like the first run of posts did get a bit accusatory.  To be fair, I've torn up a few new posters myself--so maybe I'll check out that other thread you mentioned.

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well, I've enjoyed all the monopoly puns too...and I agree with your comment that if one doesn't want comments (which includes criticism) that one shouldn't post.  Seems like the first run of posts did get a bit accusatory.  To be fair, I've torn up a few new posters myself--so maybe I'll check out that other thread you mentioned.

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Okay, I'll state that I do not believe that either of you are sociopaths.  And one of the risks of an all email forum is that it is very hard to discern tone--personally--and obviously--I may be the only one here--I understand that mentioning the serial killers was giving an example of the risks of online encounters, but I guess I misinterpreted the tone.  It struck me as attacking the OP.  So if that wasn't the intent, my apologies--because I have also been told by others on this forum that I have responded in a hostile manner when it was not my intent.  (well, okay...a few times they were right.)

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Okay, I'll state that I do not believe that either of you are sociopaths.  And one of the risks of an all email forum is that it is very hard to discern tone--personally--and obviously--I may be the only one here--I understand that mentioning the serial killers was giving an example of the risks of online encounters, but I guess I misinterpreted the tone.  It struck me as attacking the OP.  So if that wasn't the intent, my apologies--because I have also been told by others on this forum that I have responded in a hostile manner when it was not my intent.  (well, okay...a few times they were right.)

No need to apologise, old sport. I was merely curious as to what you considered "hostile".

For the record, it will be apparent if I ever become "hostile" (although for the life of me I can't imagine why I would around these here parts); I don't tend to leave a lot of grey area in there. Phrases such as "you fuckwitted, cock-sucking whore's son" and "you worthless, piss-stained spunk-bubble" will tend to make an appearance.

Until and if they do, you can safely assume I mean no-one any harm ;)

On a broader theme (and please note I genuinely couldn't give a flying fuck about the OP's proposals, firstly because they'll be happening far, far away, and secondly because I believe personal risk is a matter for the individual's own choices, and if we eliminated all risk from BDSM there would be no BDSM), all I would add is that it's possible to a) rip the piss out of someone for humorous reasons and b) disagree with a person's POV or proposed actions, without "attacking" them or being "hostile" to them. The fact the OP didn't pitch a fit would tend to support the theory that they got that.

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Don't know if this was your intent--but your post almost made me spray my monitor with tea!  well done.

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I should also point out that, while interesting, the reasons why real whores 'do it' have nothing to do with fantasies held by BDSMers.  It is not the cash, it is the experience.

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anyway, the few hookers i have known were not very picky at all... they weren't very smart either or good at acting really

Well, thinking about it, for most people, you would imagine if they had genuine intellectual talents then they wouldn't have to fuck strangers for cash?

I accept there must be a very small proportion who enjoy their work, but for the overwhelming majority I doubt they dreamed of being a prostitute as a child.

Or maybe I'm very naive :)

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why the assumption that one would only be a prostitute out of financial necessity or desire? also why do you assume that it would involve the fucking of random strangers?

as someone who has been and likely will in some fashion or other continue to be a whore (no monopoly money included), for me it has been everything from yet another way to serve and please my Master and his perversions, to the fulfillment of a life-long desire and drive to be of service to those in need. the "clients" were always carefully selected based upon their personality, nature, and need (as opposed to fleeting horny desire). all were long-term relationships, and all involved real intimacy...meaning a genuine human connection and touching of spirit to spirit, not merely (or even necessarily) flesh to flesh. frankly, it was/is quite awesome.