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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 12:36:36 PM   
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Timothy Baclit said that he woke up around 5 a.m. to go to work and saw Williamson walking around "naked ... with a hard hat."

Does "hat" in America have the same duality of meaning that "helmet" does in the UK? :)



lol.. i think it can, but in this case, it was a hard hat made for construction workers.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 12:39:33 PM   
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Birnbaum sought jail time for Williamson, but General District Judge Ian M. O'Flaherty imposed only a suspended sentence, meaning that Williamson will serve no jail time if he keeps out of trouble.

If Williamson follows through on his plans to appeal, though, a circuit court judge could impose a tougher punishment, technically up to a year in jail.

Then he's a pretty Silly Billy, eh?

Or a drama llama. Maybe that's his kink?
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-6006155-504083.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

"A few hours later, Yvette Dean was walking her 7-year-old son to school along a trail that runs by Williamson's home.

She heard a loud rattle, looked to her left and saw Williamson standing naked, full frontal, in a side doorway."

A loud rattle? WTF was he doing with himself? Was Viagra involved?



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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 12:43:06 PM   
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Timothy Baclit said that he woke up around 5 a.m. to go to work and saw Williamson walking around "naked ... with a hard hat."

Does "hat" in America have the same duality of meaning that "helmet" does in the UK? :)

lol.. i think it can, but in this case, it was a hard hat made for construction workers.

Ah, ok ... so more sort of ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 12:50:15 PM   
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To be honest, he was in his own home and I don't get the outrage, the house seems to be away, different story if he would have been on main street and stood buck naked in the window hoping somebody will see him...

He's not like this guy here...

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2084304_bob_the_builder_fined_for_halfnaked_layby_parade

I find that story also hilarious, because as far as I know "dogging" means watching people having sex in public or getting off on being watched having sex, so this bloke wanted to perv on people but was offended that he didn't get to see what he wanted to see...

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 1:05:12 PM   
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I dont know about you, but when a man stands naked before children, for whatever reason, i have issues. It was also reported that the house was across the street from the bus stop.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 1:13:07 PM   
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To be honest, he was in his own home and I don't get the outrage, the house seems to be away, different story if he would have been on main street and stood buck naked in the window hoping somebody will see him...

He's not like this guy here...

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2084304_bob_the_builder_fined_for_halfnaked_layby_parade

I find that story also hilarious, because as far as I know "dogging" means watching people having sex in public or getting off on being watched having sex, so this bloke wanted to perv on people but was offended that he didn't get to see what he wanted to see...


I thought that too-- but the side walk and lay out of his house is pretty much on display.  The initial piece showed the pics of it.   Any rational person would have put up a drape.   My living room has more feet in it then the school bus sidewalk.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 1:30:18 PM   
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I dont know about you, but when a man stands naked before children, for whatever reason, i have issues.

Not disagreeing with you at all, but there was a wonderful piece in the local paper a while back, which you've just reminded me of.

Being that this area of central London is one of those with some lovely green spaces, it's not unheard of for various dodgier "members" of society (the ones with the buttons missing from their overcoats, if you get my drift) to hang around the wooded areas and expose themselves to children from the local schools, of which there are several.

And so it went for this chap; lying in wait, he sprang his "surprise" on a group of 7-10 year-old schoolgirls, the dirty little shit. However, he failed to take note of how children these days are somewhat more "advanced" than was once the case. The girls, far from recoiling in horror, laughed their arses off, then pelted him with rocks.

One was quoted, triumphantly proclaiming "I hit him right in the thingy!" :) In presumably quite a bit of pain, he ran off, but the girls determinedly followed him, screaming "FLASHER!" en masse, until eventually he reached the main road (a shopping High Street), where it became impossible for him to hide any longer, or get away.

The bloke was then nabbed by plod, and carted off to clink, where he will presumably receive a warm welcome.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 2:06:27 PM   
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I dont know about you, but when a man stands naked before children, for whatever reason, i have issues. It was also reported that the house was across the street from the bus stop.


I didn't see the original piece or a bus stop mentioned, and I guess it's a cultural difference, but a naked body isn't going to shock somebody in Europe, here he would have been more likely to get comments like "Can't afford clothes?" or with a pointed look at his genitals the question "Is it really THAT cold?"

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 2:19:46 PM   
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I dont know about you, but when a man stands naked before children, for whatever reason, i have issues. It was also reported that the house was across the street from the bus stop.


If I remember correctly he first flashed at the side door then when they walked around the corner to the front of the house by the bus stop he flashed again through his living room window...Seems a bit beyond accidental to me.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 2:32:32 PM   
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I didn't see the original piece or a bus stop mentioned, and I guess it's a cultural difference, but a naked body isn't going to shock somebody in Europe, here he would have been more likely to get comments like "Can't afford clothes?" or with a pointed look at his genitals the question "Is it really THAT cold?"

Speaking as a fellow European, I don't agree. At all.

Naked is certainly more tolerated in many places here, but flashing is different and, given that he changed his position at least 3 times during the "events", as best I can understand, what we're looking at here (as it were) is not accidental, it's deliberate exposure. I don't know about Germany or Holland, but in the UK, France, Italy, Spain and Portugal (which are the ones I can think of, where I've visited or have friends where this has come up in conversation, albeit obliquely), deliberately exposing yourself to children will get you nicked (in the UK), will get you nicked and beaten up (in France) and will get you murdered in short order in Spain and Portugal. In Italy I’d say you’ll be nicked first, then police incompetence will see you set free, then a bunch of locals will lynch you. But then they'll give you a lovely funeral service. So it all evens out.

Had it been a single instance, from a single angle, then yes, absolutely, accidental nakedness, and nothing to get annoyed about. But the movements suggest he knew exactly what he was doing.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 2:48:19 PM   
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He wasd in his home. If he had accidentally exposed himself, then i could totally understand and agree no crime committed. Two different occurences, after being warned by the roommate, and moving to different spots.... the man is an idiot to appeal a suspended sentence.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:10:17 PM   
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I didn't see the original piece or a bus stop mentioned, and I guess it's a cultural difference, but a naked body isn't going to shock somebody in Europe, here he would have been more likely to get comments like "Can't afford clothes?" or with a pointed look at his genitals the question "Is it really THAT cold?"

Speaking as a fellow European, I don't agree. At all.

Naked is certainly more tolerated in many places here, but flashing is different and, given that he changed his position at least 3 times during the "events", as best I can understand, what we're looking at here (as it were) is not accidental, it's deliberate exposure. I don't know about Germany or Holland, but in the UK, France, Italy, Spain and Portugal (which are the ones I can think of, where I've visited or have friends where this has come up in conversation, albeit obliquely), deliberately exposing yourself to children will get you nicked (in the UK), will get you nicked and beaten up (in France) and will get you murdered in short order in Spain and Portugal. In Italy I’d say you’ll be nicked first, then police incompetence will see you set free, then a bunch of locals will lynch you. But then they'll give you a lovely funeral service. So it all evens out.

Had it been a single instance, from a single angle, then yes, absolutely, accidental nakedness, and nothing to get annoyed about. But the movements suggest he knew exactly what he was doing.



It depends a lot on the circumstances, a flasher who would walk up and open the coat is a different story, now if said guy was masturbating in front of children, he would have an unfortunate accident and fall up and down the stairs several times with a bit of assistance from the police in Italy, France or Spain. In your own home running around naked would get bricks through your windows. Most European countries have clothing optional beaches, so a naked guy is not such an issue, apparently not even everywhere in Britain, one of my colleagues is from a small town in Scotland, she told me (during a rather liquid evening in a bar on a biz trip) that for years the local kiddie attraction was a nutter who exposed himself near the graveyard, and it was a bit "Hey, we're bored and it's cold, shall we go around to the graveyard and see if old Angus drops the pants?" Apparently the real amusing bit was not him exposing himself but that pretty often he really dropped his pants and they got muddy and wet and he walked around in them then.

In Germany being naked in public is an offense, like walking down the street, but not in your home, but they did nick a guy who was naked and erect and waving the erect dick at kids from his window, it really depends if you're erect or not. In your own garden or house, you can be as buck naked as you like. But I tell you, I would be glad if there was a law in the UK that would say you should have curtains on your bathroom window, my kitchen is on the 3rd floor, behind the garden is a row of houses, one of them has the bathroom (no milk glass windows, no curtains) on the 1st floor, I get full view of the 2 rather lardy occupants going to the loo, it puts me off my morning espresso somewhat. I learned to not look out of my kitchen window between 7 and 8 am or otherwise lose appetite for the day. I thought about an anonymous gift voucher for John Lewis curtains or something like that...

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:10:41 PM   
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He wasd in his home. If he had accidentally exposed himself, then i could totally understand and agree no crime committed. Two different occurences, after being warned by the roommate, and moving to different spots.... the man is an idiot to appeal a suspended sentence.

Agreed.

I read it as him finding it "funny" to freak people out, then enjoying the attention, then latterly some bad legal advice convincing him to "make a stand" when he's bang to rights.

He's going to get buttfucked if he pushes his luck. Figuratively and literally.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:20:15 PM   
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It depends a lot on the circumstances, a flasher who would walk up and open the coat is a different story, now if said guy was masturbating in front of children, he would have an unfortunate accident and fall up and down the stairs several times with a bit of assistance from the police in Italy, France or Spain.


The French are an odd lot. With that sort of thing, plod don't tend to do more than slap the guy around a bit.

Then the entire village/town turns against him, and he has to move, on pain of pain. They generally (from what I've observed) have a high degree of respect for the law ... and a very carefully, and communally agreed, line of demarcation beyond which all bets are off.

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In your own home running around naked would get bricks through your windows. Most European countries have clothing optional beaches, so a naked guy is not such an issue, apparently not even everywhere in Britain, one of my colleagues is from a small town in Scotland, she told me (during a rather liquid evening in a bar on a biz trip) that for years the local kiddie attraction was a nutter who exposed himself near the graveyard, and it was a bit "Hey, we're bored and it's cold, shall we go around to the graveyard and see if old Angus drops the pants?" Apparently the real amusing bit was not him exposing himself but that pretty often he really dropped his pants and they got muddy and wet and he walked around in them then.

Kids amusing themselves is not the same thing as the way something like that is viewed by the police and the locals though.

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In Germany being naked in public is an offense, like walking down the street, but not in your home, but they did nick a guy who was naked and erect and waving the erect dick at kids from his window, it really depends if you're erect or not.


lol. That's a particularly German way of looking at things. Like whether or not one was going out "equipped to burgle", only with erections.

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In your own garden or house, you can be as buck naked as you like. But I tell you, I would be glad if there was a law in the UK that would say you should have curtains on your bathroom window, my kitchen is on the 3rd floor, behind the garden is a row of houses, one of them has the bathroom (no milk glass windows, no curtains) on the 1st floor, I get full view of the 2 rather lardy occupants going to the loo, it puts me off my morning espresso somewhat. I learned to not look out of my kitchen window between 7 and 8 am or otherwise lose appetite for the day. I thought about an anonymous gift voucher for John Lewis curtains or something like that...

That's almost unheard of in my experience; Brits are fanatical about having smoked, frosted or whatever glass in their toilets (and there are building regs that support this), to the point I once lived somewhere where the bathroom looked out over the sea ... I mean, unless you were in a boat, with binoculars, you'd see nothing. And yet all the glass was frosted.

If you made a complaint to your local council I'm pretty sure they'd have a word, if it's that upsetting a sight (and I can imagine it would be).

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:21:01 PM   
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"Bubba" is gonna enjoy him... immensely.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:22:34 PM   
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"Bubba" is gonna enjoy him... immensely.

That's what I meant about buttfucked.

He is, as the saying has it, "going down" ... in every way conceivable.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:37:57 PM   
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it against the law to be looking *into* people's windows?
Windows are for people to be looking *out of* not for people to be looking *in to.*


Popeye, as much as I normally disagree with you, sometimes you do sum things up concisely.

This should have never made it to court and I applaud the guy for pursuing the issue.

He has a right of privacy in his own home.  If these women were offended by what they saw all they had to do was not look.



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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:40:13 PM   
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The right to privacy is when you make the attempt to keep it private. Windows with curtains open wide makes it clear no such attempt was made.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:42:16 PM   
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And pops, if you dont want someone seeing what you are doing in your home, you dont leave the windows uncovered. Peeping tom laws would not apply.


That is true, peeping tom laws would not apply.

But you cannot be charged for indecent exposure in your own home.  I would be very surprised if this nonsense survives his appeal.

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RE: Update on the man arrested for being naked in his o... - 1/6/2011 3:49:09 PM   
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The right to privacy is when you make the attempt to keep it private. Windows with curtains open wide makes it clear no such attempt was made.


Okay, show me where in any law it states my personal privacy depends on me hiding what I want to keep private.

Is there a curtain statute lurking out there somewhere that I am unaware of?

The right to privacy does not depend on me taking into account who may be looking into my home.

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