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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 9:45:33 PM

truesub4u

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shakes head.... most seems to think... that all because this was on line.... it was a waste.... let me see if I read this right... TRAINING HER FOR REAL LIFE.... perhaps for starters.. she felt safer starting out this way.... perhaps she was a game player from the get go and he got suckered..... REAL LIFE DOESN"T MEAN SHIT to game players... hell... some meet in real life just to take their high... higher in the game they're playing.... (yep experience speaks here on meeting in real life to still have the game played on her... 14 months... ) DeltaFire be glad yours was only 8 months and i'm guessing no meet..... Sorry it happened.. brussh yourself off... and start over... I did.. and life is going on good for me....

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 9:57:07 PM

ownedgirlie

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I am a believer that emotions can develop - even strong emotions and a draw to someone - whether online, face to face, phone to phone, whatever. I have made some very good friends online...talking to each other for years. On the phone regularly. We confide about the most intimate of things. Does that mean they are not a real friend because we have not met? My feelings for them are what they are, and they are genuine.

I know of several relationships that did not go "real time" until very far into it. I know of one couple who didn't meet for 7 months...another who took almost 2 years. To decide uniformly that "you didn't meet so you must not be real" is unfortunate and a bit arrogant. If it is real to a person, it is real to that person.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 10:10:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

To decide uniformly that "you didn't meet so you must not be real" is unfortunate and a bit arrogant.

I think I said, "not real *to me*" but, yes, it is arrogant, and frankly, self-protective on my part.

But it does work for me.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 10:13:29 PM

ownedgirlie

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You did specify to you only. I was not speaking directly to your post - just at the sentiment in general, when people judge what is real for others or not.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 10:19:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdeltafire

*nods in feeling passion. My foot missed the old days of kickboxing sending the bag thru the wall.. ahh yes, tequila,

*nods sagely... make mental note to reinforce walls with concrete.. need new kickboxing bag.

as for what ive learned.... bring truth serum, keep truth serum close by... (SNIP: abduction fantasy)

That's a lot of anger you are packing. Yup. Getting made a fool of sure hurts.

If you call flames replies that don't stroke your ego then this might be another one. Before you go shooting anybody else with truth syrum, have a dose yourself. Ask yourself, honestly - "How much am I projecting my desires on to this person"?

Generally speaking, the longer and harder we get played, the more we have invested in our fantasies and ignored the realities. Nobody can fool us quite as well as ourselves.

Z.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 10:40:12 PM

IronBear

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I'm nor going to flame you Laddy.. Nor am I going to feel sorry for you either.. I guess you've probably smacked your self about enough (and the wall but you'll have to deal with the (IPDWS International Prevention of Damage to Walls Society when they come a calling on ye..) Take this whole schemozzle as part of your learning curve and learn from it.. Were iut me this happened to, I'de have had a damned good work out on the punching bag and taken the errent keyboatd down th the range and used it for a target eith the .44 magnum or the 9mm semi auto pistol).... Good healthy rant though. Better luck in the future..... BYW wond mind those who think you should meet in a week or too face to face.. They may be blessed with accsess to people who live close, many do not and I certainly do not intend to travel up to 1000km for an odd meeting. I'd need things to have progressed a damned side further before I'll fork out the huge fees at the petrol station...

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 11:11:04 PM

apb

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Unfortunately there are a lot of flakes out there - and the lifestyle seems to attract them (in the online format) in droves ...

This last weekend MissTress and I were expecting five, yes 5, sub males to meet us at the local club. Not one of them either showed up, called or emailed despite previous conversation online and all of them having our contact information.

Prior to that I was a sub in attendance at my first Mistresses house when she was hosting a party. She had invited five slaves, plus myself, to serve and be used as playthings during the party. Only myself and one other showed up when we were supposed to. One other did have the decency to call (he had an emergency and did manage to show up late).

I don't know why there are so many people here who are not real. It is not just subs, but Dom/Dommes too ... I met a Domme in here who *seemed* to be real, caring and genuine. In no time flat it turned in to a total control freak nightmare!

All I can say is keep looking and make sure you hook up real-time sooner rather than later. Only with real-time interaction can you determine who is real and who isn't. Even then you need to give it time to figure out if the person really is what they say they are.

OK - I am probably stating the obvious here ... MissTress says I have an uncanny knack for it ....

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 11:30:28 PM

MsMacComb

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quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdeltafire
*I spend 8 months training one towards real life, pouring all of my knowledge into one. And where does it get me? "Oh I'm sorry Master, this was all a game. Thank you for playing waste all your time, breath, and experience on one who has played you like a fiddle."
Is this just a game to yall? has the lifestyle sunk this far in 15 years there are virtually no true real lifers left? Is there anyone left who thinks the collar is sacred, like a wedding ring, and their most prized posession and does not play these fucking games?

There are players, fakes and frauds in all walks of life and business. Sorry this happened to you but after being pissed for a day or two hopefully you will get over it and move on, keep searching and will one day soon find the right one.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 11:35:32 PM

Lordandmaster

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People who are into the same shit I'm into are real.

Everyone else is a fucking poser.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dustyn

What defines a dom/me as being "real", since there is no one interpretation of bd/sm that is practiced by everyone?

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 12:29:11 AM

mons

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greetings

I am truly sorry she did this to you, I am a domme I too had people play
silly games and either turn crazy or just thought it was all in fun. I always
say what goes around comes around. She will do this to another (these types)
do not stop at one person, I know your were not the first person she has
done this too. I know many who value the collar at a sign of love and
honor. Do not gave up please, and do not punch anymore holes you will break your
hand and she is not worth that at all. Your heart broken but do not let her take your soul that is still yours to give to another! I do not pity you! She has lose a great Master, dom and a wonderful man.

i wish you all of the best

mons/jane

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 12:46:16 AM

Sirandlittle1

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I hope others see this post, and can learn from your mistakes.
8 months, eek. Your a very very patient man.

i believe every relationship has worth, even those that end sooner than others. Take what you learned from training another, it will serve you and yours well in the future. Many of the lessons will be positive, concentrate on those.
And chose to not be negative, not invest energy in that which has past. Trust again.
be well
little1

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 1:40:34 AM

meatcleaver

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After thinking about this for awhile and this is from my one and only online experience because I refuse to have another. I think the woman I was dealing with was sexually frustrated and was so because she was scared of r/l relationships. Every time I suggested we meet she came up with some plausable excuse why it wasn't the right time and why we couldn't meet. It was when I removed all the so called barriers and ready to meet and she had no more excuses to fall back on that reality eventually entered her head and she panicked and dumped me, in a rather cruel and callous fashion.

Of course, she could always have been an evil bitch which is what I believe now because there was a little more to the story than that.

Online? As far as I'm concerned it's for suckers. Sorry if people are insulted by that but that is down to my experience.

< Message edited by meatcleaver -- 5/2/2006 1:43:05 AM >

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 2:45:07 AM

SoulfulSadism

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That *was* shitty. Using all your emotions, control, intensity, experience, knowledge, instincts and have it all come to dust ... IS horrible.

But: the reality is you have to have that eye of the mind staring into someone else's mind to filter out the lies. A rant is ok; being deceived once a while is ok, but unless you take it on yourself to develop that instinct for identifying shams - this will repeat.

Also, why would you wait 8 months ? Agreed as a Dom the pressure is often on you to not seem greedy, impatient and whatever, but ultimately, as long as you are fair, you HAVE to do things your way. And even if you DO succeed doing things the way they are apparently supposed to be done, you won't enjoy the success much.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 3:52:20 AM

Dustyn

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LOL

Now that is happy... and depressingly enough, about the damned truth...

Ah well, it's nice to see intolerance is still alive and doing quite well... adn no, the sarcasm is not meant for you...

- Dustyn

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 3:58:43 AM

masterdeltafire

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Bear,

Thanks on the laugh, I did need that one. Perhaps I do need to go back to my roots in Gor. At least kajira usually know how to tell the truth.

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I'm nor going to flame you Laddy.. Nor am I going to feel sorry for you either.. I guess you've probably smacked your self about enough (and the wall but you'll have to deal with the (IPDWS International Prevention of Damage to Walls Society when they come a calling on ye..) Take this whole schemozzle as part of your learning curve and learn from it.. Were iut me this happened to, I'de have had a damned good work out on the punching bag and taken the errent keyboatd down th the range and used it for a target eith the .44 magnum or the 9mm semi auto pistol).... Good healthy rant though. Better luck in the future..... BYW wond mind those who think you should meet in a week or too face to face.. They may be blessed with accsess to people who live close, many do not and I certainly do not intend to travel up to 1000km for an odd meeting. I'd need things to have progressed a damned side further before I'll fork out the huge fees at the petrol station...

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 4:09:09 AM

twicehappy

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Sorry to hear this happened to you. It has happened to all of us at one time or another. The good news is it does happen for real and it can work. The bad news is you have to keep looking.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 4:37:39 AM

zebra

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bandit25

Wait a minute! There are just as many fake doms as there are fakes subs. Guys who put Master before their names and think that's all there is to it. Everyone complains that there are "so many fakers" and they usually mean subs, but let's not forget the "turn on your web cam and get naked" doms or, like one guy who contacted me and wouldn't leave me alone. He was married. I told him that I don't get involved with married guys. He whined that there are a LOT of women on CM that do so I told him to contact one of them. He continued to harass me, saying that he wanted me and since he was a dom, I had to submit. I was like...Whatever!

EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for saying it so well.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 4:46:28 AM

feastie

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Smashing your fist through walls? Even in it's illustrative sense here, it gives me pause. This is the second post of yours made in hurt and anger about some online submissive leaving you. Perhaps it's time to spend some time in introspection.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 4:51:07 AM

Lashra

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First of all if your slamming your fist through a wall you need some anger management therapy. That could be the reason she took off. Secondly, unfortnately internet relationships tend to go this route alot. I hear this everyday and I can understand your frustation. But there is a lesson to be learned here. Go meet someone that lives near you, someone that you can really get to know and she you. Get to be friends first and worry about the other stuff later. It may take you awhile, but that waiting is most certainly worth it.

~Lashra

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/2/2006 8:18:02 AM

temptressofsouls

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While I understand that You made this original post and that You may feel it is time to move on from it (which You are more then welcome to, of course) what You should try to understand is that while this particular part of the issue is "Yours" the issue in its entirety is E/everyones....Most of U/us in this lifestyle have been played atleast once, I imagine. I know I have and it hurts.

I lived in MI's UP for 3 years and it was hard for me to find Someone local who wasnt more then an hour away or that wasnt 2 or even 3 times my age. Throughout those 3 years, I dealt with some guys I met through collarme who were from my hometown (about 9 hours from college) and we made plans to meet when I came home. One guy seemed to like the idea of me more then anything else...He kept saying "let me come up and see you, i cant wait til thanksgiving" and then when I came home, met me once, spent a few times on the phone talking to me while i was local saying how much he missed me and wanted to see me, and I was like "I live 10 minutes away...Wtf are you acting like I'm still at college for?" and when he finally agreed to see me again he didnt show up. The other one was almost as bad.

I've just learned to take everything with a grain of salt since then. The true O/ones wll show themselves with time, if given the chance.

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