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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 8:31:57 AM   
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Saying hateful things is not the same as saying things hatefully.



True; however, both are likely to be counterproductive when the goal is to resolve issues, due to the fact that ‘hate’ tends to be distracting, no matter how politely it is stated.

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These are also hateful thoughts and ideas, and we should respond to them with fury and righteous indignation.


Comes off as 'self-absorbed pride'. Is the goal to intimidate?

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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 9:17:50 AM   
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Rex, you need to look at the big picture. We have a president who doesn't know what he's doing and who nobody likes.


Your data is a little old, Bush isn't in office anymore.


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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 9:20:35 AM   
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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 9:58:39 AM   
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Rex, you need to look at the big picture. We have a president who doesn't know what he's doing and who nobody likes.


Your data is a little old, Bush isn't in office anymore.




Got Steel, I was referring to Obama.
If he was up for reelection next week do you really think the nutty professor would be reelected?

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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 10:09:42 AM   
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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 10:14:18 AM   
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Rex, you need to look at the big picture. We have a president who doesn't know what he's doing and who nobody likes.


Your data is a little old, Bush isn't in office anymore.




Got Steel, I was referring to Obama.
If he was up for reelection next week do you really think the nutty professor would be reelected?


That would depend on who he ran against. If they put him up against Sarah, he would get my vote.


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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 10:22:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Rex, you need to look at the big picture. We have a president who doesn't know what he's doing and who nobody likes.


Your data is a little old, Bush isn't in office anymore.




Got Steel, I was referring to Obama.
If he was up for reelection next week do you really think the nutty professor would be reelected?


That would depend on who he ran against. If they put him up against Sarah, he would get my vote.



Why?
Is it because he's done such a great job?

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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 12:37:11 PM   
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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 12:44:47 PM   
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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 3:48:51 PM   
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Rex, you need to look at the big picture. We have a president who doesn't know what he's doing and who nobody likes.


How about if we look at the small picture?

You believe that your opinions mirror the opinions of the entire country.

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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 4:25:35 PM   
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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 4:28:57 PM   
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Termyn8or,I agree with you on this one.It has become really just voting for the lesser of the 2 evils.It would be nice to see a real 3rd party alternative in this country.



Why, so you can vote for the least of 3 evils? 3 parties won't change your mindset.

The problem is that both parties are focusing on bashing the other side, and voters are eating it up like cake. Just look at this board, the back and forth is "Democrats did this horrible thing" vs "Republicans did this horrible thing" trying to show which is worse.

In an ideal world, it would be "Democrats did this great thing" countered with "Republicans did this better thing" so that politicians would have to earn votes based on their works rather than get the default vote after showing how bad the other guy is.

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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 4:33:07 PM   
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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/10/2011 4:47:54 PM   
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The unindicted co-conspirators of the Giffords shooting tragedy are Roger Ailes and Sarah Palin.



I dont agree with this, if anything the blame lays with the language of American politics. Both main parties have used adds containing crosshairs, both have used inflammatory speech. When disturbed people read such stuff on a constant basis, they probably become more disturbed.

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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/11/2011 7:31:08 AM   
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Why?
Is it because he's done such a great job?


Well, I am not sure I would say he has done a great job. I am conservative after all, but I will say I am happy with some of the things he has done. And I think he has done a better job at it than Sarah would have if she was elected.




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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/11/2011 7:33:59 AM   
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Rex, you need to look at the big picture. We have a president who doesn't know what he's doing and who nobody likes.


How about if we look at the small picture?

You believe that your opinions mirror the opinions of the entire country.



Well in all fairness to pops, there are a few posters who also seem to think his opinion mirrors the opinions of the entire country.


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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/11/2011 7:45:10 AM   
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Well, I am not sure I would say he has done a great job. I am conservative after all, but I will say I am happy with some of the things he has done. And I think he has done a better job at it than Sarah would have if she was elected.



In fairness to Sarah, she would have quit after a year, so that you really ought to compare four years of Obama damage to one year of Palin damage. 


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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/11/2011 8:33:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Rex, you need to look at the big picture. We have a president who doesn't know what he's doing and who nobody likes.


Your data is a little old, Bush isn't in office anymore.

Got Steel, I was referring to Obama.
If he was up for reelection next week do you really think the nutty professor would be reelected?

That would depend on who he ran against. If they put him up against Sarah, he would get my vote.

Why?
Is it because he's done such a great job?

He's doing a better job than Lord Ronald Reagan by Jan. 1983. That is of course if you wish to deal with facts and not supposition based on what you hear from the demagogues

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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/11/2011 8:35:08 AM   
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I see very little support for Obama as Obama...generally the support is for the Democrats being in office, not him specifically. More often, the sentiment is anti-Republican rather than pro-Democrat.

Logically so. The republican party is in fact...the 'Capitalist party.'

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RE: The Godwining of the American dialogue - 1/11/2011 8:37:42 AM   
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The unindicted co-conspirators of the Giffords shooting tragedy are Roger Ailes and Sarah Palin.

I dont agree with this, if anything the blame lays with the language of American politics. Both main parties have used adds containing crosshairs, both have used inflammatory speech. When disturbed people read such stuff on a constant basis, they probably become more disturbed.

I have not heard or seen from the left anything like you describe and what I have seen from the right.

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