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RE: New Trend? - 1/11/2011 11:41:42 PM   
AquaticSub


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Status: offline 		I really don't see how it is out of touch. Me and mine use boy and girl fairly interchangeably with man and woman regardless of orientation in casual conversation. Just doesn't mean anything significant to us in day to day conversation and writing. Now, if I am speaking to or of a specific person, I will attempt to honor their preference. But when speaking generally, particularly on a profile, I'm not going to worry about it.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 12:11:04 AM   
WestBaySlave


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Status: offline 		For a counterpoint, I actively dislike being called "boy" by anyone but someone who I'm not personally attached to on a D/s level. Yet, I tend to get it not just from dominant types, but all sorts, albeit usually online ( people are just ruder online as a general rule ). Sometimes one gets called what they don't want to hear, whether it's a boy, girl, or whatever else is going around.

Unfortunately "girl" is the counterpart to "guy" in the current slang of the younger generation. I try not to call women girls given my own abiding dislike of "boy", but I think most of the time it's used unthinkingly and without malice. It's kind of how "mate" was thrown around at the end of every sentence the last time I was in the UK, regardless of whether I or anyone else was that person's "mate" in any sense.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 12:57:59 AM   
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Would "chick" be an alternative to "girl"?

[Ed to add that I regret making this comment already]

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 7:22:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I say "gal". I also use "chick" and "broad"---it'sa peer group thing.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 9:23:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess the flipside of many dominant women not wanting to be called girls is that, from the other side of the kneel, I'd have a lot of trouble submitting to a dominant who referred to herself as a girl or actively encouraged others to refer to her that way. I know that a lot of people use "girl" basically as a female equivalent of "guy", but to me the connotations of immaturity surrounding the word "girl" are just too strong to be ignored. I need to be under the firm, powerful hand of a woman.

Incidentally, I don't think there is an exact female counterpart of "guy". Maybe "gal" comes close, but it's folksy and perhaps a bit old-fashioned in a way that "guy" isn't.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 9:53:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Continuing that quasi-metaphor, when I had a seeking profile, I stressed that I was interested in MEN not BOYS. Adult to adult, yanno?

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 9:54:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Wheldrake

Incidentally, I don't think there is an exact female counterpart of "guy". Maybe "gal" comes close, but it's folksy and perhaps a bit old-fashioned in a way that "guy" isn't.



There is no exact female counterpart to "guy." "Girl" does indeed carry connotations of inexperience, innocence and weakness. In the mundane world most men over the age of 30 or 35 would never allow themselves to be referred to as "boy." I cringe when I hear people refer to women 35 or older as "girl."

Do I want to be addressed as "girl?" Do I know any Dommes that do? HELL NO.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 1:14:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't like to be called 'girl' because I associate 'boy' and 'girl' with submission. Am I going to get offended if someone calls me that? Only if they do it after I've asked them not to.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 6:44:14 PM   
MissAsylum


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i'm not fond of the term. i may be in my 20s, but i am far from a child.

but typically, it depends on the way its used. the significant other used to call me his girl. now, i'm either called by my first name, "wife", or "woman" since i expressed problem with it.

it would be like if somebody called him boy. he's far from a child (when he wants to be), and in his mind, he thinks of the racial association with the term.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 6:58:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't generally call women "girls", but I did have one friend (still have her) who used to call me "boy" and as a joke I'd call her "girl", and she really just thought it was kind of funny and it never really became an issue. There was never any doubt between us who was dominant and who was submissive, and we always both had a lot of respect for each other, so I can see how it never really came to anything of a problematic nature.

As said, I just wouldn't feel comfortable calling a grown woman "girl". Just wouldn't feel right.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 8:43:12 PM   
couldbemage


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Status: offline 		Amongst younger people man and woman carry an unspoken yet implied "old".

Most of my vanilla friends always use girl when referring to women close enough in age to be potential partners. Culture changes with time...

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 8:51:57 PM   
MysticFireTopaz


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Status: offline 		I don't appreciate being referred to as a "girl" and don't know of any other Dominant Women who do, either.

Recently, I got an introductory message from a male sub saying he was seeking a "sexy, aggressive, dominant girl."  It just rubbed me the wrong way and I deleted it.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 8:54:23 PM   
BKSir


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Status: offline 		I don't think it's at all appropriate to refer to one's D-type, as "girl" or "boy". Hell, I don't think it's appropriate to refer to anyone that way, unless it happens to be YOUR S-type. Yes, I refer to my pet as "boy", or "girl", depending on what I wish to call him at the moment. I'd never dream of referring to another D's sub as such though, unless specifically asked to do so for their own protocol purposes if visiting them or what have you, in their own home. And even then, I'd have some reservations, but, when in rome...

If my pet called me "boy"... there would be a "very serious discussion" about such things. If it is a trend going around right now, I predict the next trend to be a major increase of backhands across the yap.

I believe the last person to call me "boy" was my aunt, good southern lady, reminding me to mind my manners when I was a youngin. "Boy, you mind yoself, or I swear I will smack you upside the head so hard yo butt fall off." And be damned sure she would do it too.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 8:59:28 PM   
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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 9:48:13 PM   
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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 10:24:49 PM   
Lockit


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Status: offline 		Considering some of the things people call me... girl is pretty nice! I don't care. It would only matter to me if it was done to put me in my place... then they would soon be calling me some of those other things some call me and they wouldn't be nice either. lol

However, my submissive ever calls me girl other than in a joke... he might become one. lol


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RE: New Trend? - 1/12/2011 10:25:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		New trend? Men have been calling me "girl"... well.. since i was a "girl".

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RE: New Trend? - 1/13/2011 1:54:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		O hell, I'm submissive and getting a message from a Dom calling me "girl" or "how's she doing".  I'm not YOUR girl and I'm NOT just a pronoun.  Both will get block and delete.  If I don't give them a piece of my mind first.  Depends on the mood I'm in, and you don't want to catch me in the mood to reply cuz it's not pretty.  And being called dear by same? Sorry I'm not an animal has been and is my usual response.  Some things are better left  to once being owned, have been chatting or known D type for awhile.  Then it's a whole nother ballgame.

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RE: New Trend? - 1/13/2011 5:53:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		My grandmother always said "Men are just little boys grown tall". I do tend to use boy and girl in descriptive tones, such as "it's a girl thing, you wouldn't understand" or "boys are silly". I can't imagine using those terms with any specific person, ie calling them boy or girl, but i don't use honey, sweetie, sugar or anything else like that, so maybe it's just more style for me

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RE: New Trend? - 1/13/2011 6:37:40 PM   
mummyman321


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Status: offline 		I might be a man in physical form but I will always be a boy inside!

I have use the term silly girl when joking around but not in normal conversation.

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