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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:25:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Goodness me, we don't have that kind of stuff here either, We have coyote's maybe, I see some of them , what looks like them anyway plastered on the road out to mary'sville.But thankfully our area of Sacramento don't have stuff like bears or cougars or aligators or shit like that, but we do have skunks, and gophers, and I suppose they could threaten or harrass chickens if they wanted to lol.


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The one from granny was fully closed but they still sometimes managed to get near them, which is why they slept in a cage which was from all sides protected with a cement wall and via a string their thick wood door was pulled up in the morning and let down when the sun was about to say good night...

At home I actually next to never saw a fox, have seen them much more frequently over here in the UK, however, they are around at night time and also the....ferrets (that was the word I was looking for earlier), so if my granny wouldn't have closed it at night time (or if we wouldn't have done it when she was going away for a few days) then their chickens would have been at risk and as far as I know it did happen either before my time or when I was very young....

I only said the wildlife you have over there as I know a guy in Seattle (I think he is from) who doesn't let his cats out due to cougars and know that in Stevens forest (colorado) is even more wild life out and about, thats why I said, depending where Aynne is living as we simply don't have such a variety in Germany (where we live very close to the forest).

It saddens me at times to know that this is now past with my grandparents and their chicken. *sigh*


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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:54:05 PM   
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Out of curiosity, since your primary is with you all of the time and your secondary with you for part of the time, do you have the butcher cut your meat for both two and three portion sized packages?  Since we have a freezer, we purchase meat we stock up on it and I never get it right how many meals should be for three, rather than for two for the duration.  Do you have a set number of nights that you expect all three of you to be having dinner together and go from that? 


I am a skilled butcher and I have two extra pairs of hands to clean up and sharpen my knives and my bandsaw, so we have absolutely no use for supermarket meat or a commercial butcher. Generally all three of us will work a large animal slaughter together, but it might just be me and either my primary or my secondary if it's their evening and I grab a half dozen roosters off of Craigslist that we can do in a couple of hours. If I get a deer dumped on me by surprise, same story, it's a pretty quick job and it can get done by me and whoever is with me at the time.

Except for the poultry which is frozen whole, I generally think for three when I portion stuff for the freezer. And I generally cook for three plus leftovers when I cook, because even if I'm spending a dedicated evening with just my primary or my secondary, I'm fairly likely to be packing a portion for lunch or dinner or both for the other one.

Smaller meat packages intended for one or two are in the minority, for two pragmatic reasons. One, because it's just as easy to cook for three plus as for one or two. Two, larger chunks of meat freeze better. If I think it'll be in the freezer for long enough, I may just freeze a carcass quarter as such, because I can always take it to the bandsaw and slice it frozen from there. When I get one deer, I'm likely to section it in three or four pieces with a hand saw and freeze it solid until I get at least one or two more, at which point it is worth firing up the Hobart bandsaw and making proper chops and steaks. Cleaning that thing is a bitch, so I'm not inclined to use it for anything less than 100 lbs worth of processing.

The nice thing about bandsawing from frozen is that you can make a bag of frozen steaks, wrap them individually in Saran wrap (yes, in this case the brand matters) and toss them in a ziplock freezer bag. Then you can pull as many or as few steaks from the bag as you like at a time.

We don't really have set family night schedules, though I'd say we all end up eating together about once or twice a week. Busy weeks it might be less though. My secondary does some of his own grocery shopping as there are some things he eats that we don't, but he certainly doesn't need to buy any meat.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 5:21:47 PM   
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The major differences:

1. I quit drinking Naked and Odwalla juices.  I replaced them with V-8 and with spritzers, where I replaced juice with 1 part juice, four parts carbonated water.....



Hi, I did a fast search and didn't really come up with anything too bad about those juices, why did you cut them out ? Is it a cost thing?


Carbs.  Type II diabetics cannot process carbs properly, so we have to cut down on them.  Just one of those bottled fruit juices gives me twice as many carbs as I should have during an entire meal!  My packed lunches used to be a sandwich, a juice, some fruit, and a granola bar.  Probably about 300 grams of carbs in one meal!  I now have a half sandwich, a V-8, some fruit, and a small pack of raisins.


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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 6:22:27 PM   
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Really? Have you had them? I have never and I am so excited!! They are only for their eggs, not meat, and just to add to the collection of critters around here. . If you have any tips, love to hear them! Like a good number to start out with, and any particular breed you liked. Of course being in Maine I need a hardy stock. Knowing me, they will probably be inside until I get told to get them outside!


My ex and I had chickens for several years... an unexpected gift from his aunt who figured since we had a house and some acreage in the country, we'd be happy to take a brood of orphaned chicks.  We didn't keep them for meat. 

Actually, I never even gathered the eggs, either.   

They ended up pretty much as pets and were an absolute riot to watch.  The original brood started out as six hens and two roosters.  Most were Australorps, but there was a couple of Turkens in there.  At their peak, there were probably 25 or 30 chickens.

Check your cmail, Aynne.





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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 1:48:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		we eat at home alot. with three teenage boys i have to have a lot of fresh fruit and veggies available. they love carrots, which makes that easy, and apples disappear around here in nothing flat. i cook large amounts of chili, soups, stew, whatever i can cook in bulk and freeze half, making it easy to toss something in the slow cooker to warm up if i have to be gone all day. in the summer it's easy for us to pick up the fresh fruits and veggies at all the farmer's markets around here. living in a rural area can be a great thing when there's fresh veggies available at low cost. the amount of items you can buy for $200 will vary by where you shop, how you cook, if you cook, if you shop strategically scouting out the sales pages clipping coupons and such. there are some people who will go to extreme lengths, treating it like a game, finding every possible discount, every free offer, stretching their coupons by shopping on double coupon days, buying b.o.g.o. in large amounts and freezing what cannot be used right away. there is no set way to shop and get the most of your budget, every store has their own system of cutting prices on one set of items while raising their prices on others. they all do it. they are in business to profit, not as a public service.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 2:01:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gawd, before I read the post(just the title) I was reminded of when I had a budget of only 70 bucks a month for food, lived off of discount rack bread,chorizo,and oatmeal lol

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 2:26:39 PM   
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Gawd, before I read the post(just the title) I was reminded of when I had a budget of only 70 bucks a month for food, lived off of discount rack bread,chorizo,and oatmeal lol


I know the feeling.  I fed a family of five on around $50 a week for years.  It isn't easy, but it can be done and not end up living on junk food.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 3:02:43 PM   
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Really? Have you had them? I have never and I am so excited!! They are only for their eggs, not meat, and just to add to the collection of critters around here. . If you have any tips, love to hear them! Like a good number to start out with, and any particular breed you liked. Of course being in Maine I need a hardy stock. Knowing me, they will probably be inside until I get told to get them outside!


My ex and I had chickens for several years... an unexpected gift from his aunt who figured since we had a house and some acreage in the country, we'd be happy to take a brood of orphaned chicks.  We didn't keep them for meat. 

Actually, I never even gathered the eggs, either.   

They ended up pretty much as pets and were an absolute riot to watch.  The original brood started out as six hens and two roosters.  Most were Australorps, but there was a couple of Turkens in there.  At their peak, there were probably 25 or 30 chickens.

Check your cmail, Aynne.



We used to keep chickens when the children were small, around 6 of them..(6 chickens, 4 children......lol) The eggs were nothing like the ones we'd always bought. The yolks were so bright and they tasted so .........well, "eggy".

The babies in the family LOVED reaching into the coop, bringng out a warm treasure and having it soft boiled with *soldiers*. I can't remember what breed they were now, but they were bantams and we'd culled the males (they got eaten) so we only ever had the six, roaming free.

Food-wise, I don't cost up what we eat because I'm a haphazard shopper and buy toiletries and household goods at the same time. I couldn't tell you the price of anything , unless I'd just bought it(and even then I couldn't promise) though my children could. (I couldn't tell you the price of a loaf of bread or a box of tea-bags, or even the price of petrol)

I cook from scratch and always have, it's not just because it's the the way I was raised, but also due to the fact that I like to know that if anything is *bad* for me, I added, or chose it myself.

Fast-food, pre-prepared food, food in packets, take-away or eating out are rare occurences here, compared to many families around me.

We eat a fair amount of offal, like Ox Kidney, lambs kidney and liver of all kinds. I'd rather eat a small amount of meat that's not been pumped full of antibiotics or fed badly, than buy cheap stuff for *cheap's sake*. I often have a houseful of young people and to be honest, it can be pretty expensive if they all dig in, but I've never measured the cost beyond knowing that tea, milk, toilet-tissue and dishwasher tablets disappear quickly.

I probably spend far more than I can *afford* on food but we manage to keep our heads above water, despite that. We likely spend more, but eat less, than a lot of people around us because of this, but we tend to view food as *something we need to function well and rather delicious*.

I think $200 in UK terms is roughly £126 (not certain)  You *could* feed a family of 6 on that for a few weeks if you *went to Iceland*........I *could* be FAR more careful and probably should be, I could probably stretch that for many more miles than I do. We don't have the latest *everything* and if our computers go *tits-up* we have to go without and the same with the car.

Best answer....Dunno. Eating well just matters to me more than all manner of things.

agirl











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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 4:04:42 PM   
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The babies in the family LOVED reaching into the coop, bringng out a warm treasure and having it soft boiled with *soldiers*.


Soldiers?

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 4:18:31 PM   
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Edited to add I spend about $450.00 to $500.00 a month not including cleaning or beauty products but that includes making dinner from scratch 6 nights a week, any wine included and we like wine with dinner, my Man's lunch daily, and it's a very nice and healthy one, and also feeding 5 pets quality and fresh food as well as high quality pet food. I do belong to the local co-op and grow a large vegetable garden in the summer so it is less costly then, also some years we have bought half cows and had them butchered or been lucky enough to get some local venison. I realize not everyone wants to hunt. I also am getting chickens this spring. You have to like I said do the work yourself. Start somewhere.



Hi Aynne,

Just wondering what kind of pet food you buy, and if any of it is for cats. I know how to eat healthy; I have no idea how to make my cat eat healthy. The vet pushes Science Diet, but the woman at the Shelter said it was no good. Just looking for some guidance for someone who seems to know. Thanks!

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 4:19:30 PM   
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The babies in the family LOVED reaching into the coop, bringng out a warm treasure and having it soft boiled with *soldiers*.


Soldiers?



Soldiers= toasted and buttered bread cut into strips that were just the correct size for dipping into a soft yolk. Lined up on a side-plate just like soldiers.

agirl

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 4:24:10 PM   
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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 4:43:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'm feeding my cats and dogs chicken soup for the pet lover's soul brand foods, i only serve dry but they do have canned, the first several ingredients are meat, no corn. here's a link to the website: http://www.chickensoupforthepetloverssoul.com/ the furbabies seem to really like it and they're doing well on it. my friend breeds dogs and she raises excellent purebred akc chihuahuas on it. her dogs are healthy and thriving.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 5:14:13 PM   
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The babies in the family LOVED reaching into the coop, bringng out a warm treasure and having it soft boiled with *soldiers*.


Soldiers?



Soldiers= toasted and buttered bread cut into strips that were just the correct size for dipping into a soft yolk. Lined up on a side-plate just like soldiers.


Thank you!  I love to learn new (to me) uses of the English language... from both sides of the pond.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 5:29:36 PM   
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I think I need to learn this coupon game.


I have to admit that *money off* coupons bore me rigid. Unless they relate specifically to me, they're a waste of paper. I dont have the time to spend on sussing them out. I'd rather be doing SO many other things that make me smile. 

20 pence off of something I never use simply isn't going to entice me when I've decided which I prefer.

It is often a godsend for people on low incomes though........(tongue in cheek bit)despite paying for widescreen tv's, babies that can't even walk, sporting the the latest *trainers* and designer coats..........those 20 pences soon add up.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 5:32:05 PM   
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I think I need to learn this coupon game.


It doesn't speak to me.  The coupons are generally for some overprocessed crap so the savings to ay are more than offset by an unhealthy diet.

Instead, just note the grocery ads and see what's on sale.  Good stuff like produce, meats, and dairy, as well as processed foods.


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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 6:13:11 PM   
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The babies in the family LOVED reaching into the coop, bringng out a warm treasure and having it soft boiled with *soldiers*.


Soldiers?



Soldiers= toasted and buttered bread cut into strips that were just the correct size for dipping into a soft yolk. Lined up on a side-plate just like soldiers.


Thank you!  I love to learn new (to me) uses of the English language... from both sides of the pond.



Welcome .......I'll try not to enter into the big *crumpet/muffin* debate, as my one and only US friend has never been able to understand a crumpet/muffin/tea-cake, UK wise. And it took a while for me to grasp the *biscuit* thingy US wise......because we tend to dip ours in a nice cup of tea, (or nibble them politely, in company) not in gravy, nor would we eat them with dinner.

Rich Tea biscuits and cups of tea have been de rigour here for the teens for years, despite free access to beer :P

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 7:04:08 PM   
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I think I need to learn this coupon game.


It doesn't speak to me.  The coupons are generally for some overprocessed crap so the savings to ay are more than offset by an unhealthy diet.

Instead, just note the grocery ads and see what's on sale.  Good stuff like produce, meats, and dairy, as well as processed foods.



Well, considering my dietary staple is popsicles...but all natural of course.


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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/13/2011 7:19:34 PM   
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Welcome .......I'll try not to enter into the big *crumpet/muffin* debate, as my one and only US friend has never been able to understand a crumpet/muffin/tea-cake, UK wise. And it took a while for me to grasp the *biscuit* thingy US wise......because we tend to dip ours in a nice cup of tea, (or nibble them politely, in company) not in gravy, nor would we eat them with dinner.

Rich Tea biscuits and cups of tea have been de rigour here for the teens for years, despite free access to beer :P


One of my English friends had to explain to me the idea of "tea".  I couldn't understand how a cup of brewed tea would make him a decent meal.  Then, I wondered at how unimaginative it was for the Brits to have pudding every night for dessert. 

Of course, it works both ways... a couple I know from London just couldn't get over our cornbread.  They thought is was some kind of unsweetened cake. 

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/27/2011 6:34:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		The local food source had some good deals going on,

My dad,  he walks through the store with me and tells me if something is a good price or not, cause as of yet I don't know e nough about sales and comparison prices.

2 big bags of 40 to 50 ounce cereal 2.49 a piece.

I got two cartons of eggies for 1.39 a piece, I got 5 apples, 2 pounds for 99 cents, I got 5 oranges 2 pounds for 99 cents, I got a 14 pound watermellon for 6 bucks, I got 4 bell peppers, 99 cents each came out to 1.49, I got a thing of banna's 4 or 5 of them, 59 cents a pound,  I don't know how many pounds the bunch was, I got 10 yogurts for 4.50 I bought two greek yogurts, they're 1.39 a piece I was so sad to see the price so steep, cause they had the flavor and brand I love

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I got a package of poptarts, bad I know, but Daddy loves them and though I try to stay away from junk as a new resolve for furture grocery shopping, I need a quick snack for DAddy, and I bought a box of oatmeal for me, and two orange juices, two for 5 dollars.


i don't normally drink juice but it was a splurdge, I suppose I should of just put them back.

the first round of groceries was just under 15 dollars, the next round 15 and the watermellon and juice 13.
I hope the watermellon is tasty and worth the 6 bucks.


I wanted almonds to make a bar snack I saw mentioned on a show about bar snacks and coctails but they wanted 6 bucks for a tiny bag of them, and I said oh hell no. I'll go where they sell them in bulk and get them.

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