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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/17/2011 1:15:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

I don't keep a journal. I was required to keep an online journal in my last relationship, and the requirement of it, and the responses (or lack of) I'd receive, nearly caused me to lose my love of writing.



I totally get that, Nueva Vida. Same thing happened to me. Who wants to pour their heart out TO someone and be ignored over and over and over? It is awful! It felt like punishment.


Cerveza -

Have you seen what I've written here? It's not always that people don't want to or they are too lazy... sometimes people don't know how to write a journal. There are those of us that write all the time and it would be a drudgery. And I just thought of this - since I"ve been writing a lot more professionally, I don't write nearly as much privately. My blog has suffered because of it. I love love love writing! But I wouldn't want to keep a journal for someone else. I write for about 2 hours a day. Sometimes, if the story is flowing, I even cancel everything for days at a time... being emotionally spent after something like that, the last thing I want to do is write for someone (especially if he makes no comments)... but that evidently isn't disciplined enough for you .... ok.

Why can't you just listen to what a woman says?

I also think that NV's point is tremendously valid. A lot of people on the other side of things don't have the first clue about what to do with the information. Jeesh, I had to write a journal once and ran out of topics. And I never got any feedback so I was just pulling nonsense out of my ass - as in nonsense topics that I didn't care about - because there was no give and take.

As an aside, though, I wouldn't be involved with a man whose nick is about alcohol either... I believe it tells me a lot about a person's priorities, their nick... so in the end it's all a moot point.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/17/2011 2:09:05 PM   
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I keep a journal, for my eyes only.  I find writing therapeutic.  Sometimes there are too many thoughts, words, phrases bouncing around in my head and it is helpful to get them out.  I also love to write and play with words, so I find it fun.  I tend to be secretive in nature, and journaling is an outlet for getting those secrets out.


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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/17/2011 3:33:43 PM   
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Yes, I do keep a journal. I write in it when I need it, and I've used it fairly regularly for the last 5 years. Both of my previous Doms required that I keep a daily one since it's easier for my to communicate that way.

Baltimore DOES have many groups available for subs and slaves to talk, but frankly I'm too shy and every time I consider it one issue or another comes up that forces me right back into my hidey hole. There is fet, but I imagine it's not nearly as supportive. I may participate in it at some point but for the most part it's still a "Maybe I'll try it some day."

I don't really care much about my own motivations. I like what makes me happy.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/17/2011 3:36:23 PM   
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Few slaves/subs have the patience to do a journal.


As it occurred to you that the problem is not them, it is you.


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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/18/2011 4:40:15 AM   
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as far as sub groups on fetlife go, i think i'm more interested in getting offline. =p the groups on fetlife are really helpful; lots of thoughtful people with lots to say. but part of my interest is filling that gap in an offline way. i'm very shy, too, but i like listening to other people's viewpoints and insight -- even if it doesnt apply to my own life, it's still interesting to hear other points of view. 

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/18/2011 10:01:58 AM   
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I have a physical journal i don't go for on line i mean what if you computer gets hacked and something that is for yur and /or his eyes only gets out. I don't write in it every day usually about once ot twice a month. Master does not read it, but i said if he wants to he is welcome to. Half of it is about us anyway.

Ther probley is a local group for submissivies ,but i never looked into it. Could be interesting though.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/18/2011 5:28:24 PM   
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i don't want an online journal, in case my internet goes out and i can't get to it. =p but then again, i kinda want to do one because i woudln't have to worry about losing it and wondering where it was. =p

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/18/2011 6:11:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

First off, do you keep a journal?


No I don't. I have done so in the past for personal reasons and at the behest of my partner. I don't find the same enjoyment in writing in that manner anymore. Perhaps I lack inspiration.

quote:

Secondly, do you have a submissives/slaves forum in your area?


Yes, we have a local group but I don't attend the meetings very often. I converse on occasion with a small handful of people that are of a submissive persuasion that I've been in contact with for several years. Although we reside in different locales I prefer their feedback and find our personalities are more in sync. Our discussions reflect a wide arrange of interests and activities that extend well beyond the atypical lifestyle oriented discussions and banter.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/19/2011 8:04:05 AM   
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I've met some interesting people who've given me great advice from far away -- part of the magic of the internet. :)

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/19/2011 8:38:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CerVeza

Few slaves/subs have the patience to do a journal. If a girl can't at least journal for me that is a sign right there she is not into Me nor has the discipline.


I would not journal for someone else. If I wanted to write, I would. This has nothing to do with lack of discipline or being into someone.

I prefer human conversation. I write enough in my job and for leisure, I don't need to document every feeling I have; it is cathartic for many, but not for me.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/19/2011 1:40:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CerVeza

Few slaves/subs have the patience to do a journal. If a girl can't at least journal for me that is a sign right there she is not into Me nor has the discipline.


Greetings CerVeza,

I'm curious about your assertion that the art of writing for one's dominant is sorely lacking in the submissive community. From what I've observed from my communication and direct contact with persons of both leanings, there's a clear desire for self expression in the written form. The continued participation by individuals single and partnered in forums of this nature is a testament to their willingness to expound.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/19/2011 2:36:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep
and that's an interesting idea that your Naturopath had! i've never heard that before



I have a friend who's a painter and she started painting with her left hand as an exercise in self-discovery. The paintings were in a completely different style (of course) and both intense and disturbing. That was the first I'd ever encountered using your off-hand in this way. Apparently the concept is gaining traction.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/19/2011 3:09:37 PM   
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i'm going to have to try that with my own painting... very interesting concept.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/19/2011 7:26:47 PM   
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I have kept a journal for years. Since my first counselor suggested it to help me get in touch with my feelings. As I have aged I have kept one on and off but nothing set in stone. I agree looking back over the years, I seemed to being just writing the same crap over and over again. It seemed like I never really learned anything. And I found that I concentrated more on the negative in my life.

Master and I decided this year that I needed to just let go of the past that it was holding me back. So I burned them and the old court documents. I had already written of the negative influences in my life so why not.

I miss journaling. I felt like it helped me work thru my emotions and put them into words. I think I would like to do it again. I will have to talk to him again about this. He really doesn't make me write anything. I sometimes wish he would and we are looking into this. I am having issues talking to him or even just focusing on the positive in my life so it would be nice to maybe start a journal for that.

There is no real club or forum in my area. Joys of a small town life. I think I would like to get together with like minded people or people who wouldn't judge or ridicule me. That is why I turn to these forums.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/20/2011 11:18:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: InvisibleBlack

quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep
and that's an interesting idea that your Naturopath had! i've never heard that before



I have a friend who's a painter and she started painting with her left hand as an exercise in self-discovery. The paintings were in a completely different style (of course) and both intense and disturbing. That was the first I'd ever encountered using your off-hand in this way. Apparently the concept is gaining traction.


Many years ago when I belonged to the local Art Society, we did life drawing using our left (or less dominant) hand. It was to help stop trying to be so *controlled*. I still have some of the charcoal sketches I did way back then. It produced things I liked a lot more than using my right hand.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/20/2011 2:25:10 PM   
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i plan to burn all of mine before i die. =p
i have learned a few things using my journals -- just self-exploratory things. there are some things that seem to never change, though. everyone's life probably has a few of those things, though. i've been paying more attention to my own repeating issues and, rather than just writing about them, i'm going to spend time thinking about the cause of them. if you can find the root, you can kill it. =p

the extra canvases in my closet might just be destined for some left-handed paintings. :)

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/20/2011 8:06:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep
the extra canvases in my closet might just be destined for some left-handed paintings. :)


Let me know how they turn out. I'm curious.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/21/2011 11:16:46 AM   
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i don't have the time to really keep a journal :( 

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/30/2011 8:51:51 PM   
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I am sticking my toe back in to the swamp here..... because I really want to give you and answer.

I have always journaled... writing in journal, through art... painting, writing, creating. It has been a way for me to discharge and process throughout my life. Journaling for the Dom in my life seemed perfect and perhaps could be if I am ever fortunate enough to have the type of relationship that I want. It could be such an amazing, beautiful thing to share the process with One who really got it, appreciated it, assimilated it for the good of both.

I started journaling here on CM because I was requested to. It was a perfect tool for me because it allowed me to just be and record a stream of consciousness that I could come back to later. I learned so much about my own nature and the experience was cathartic. Unfortunately, I got the shit scared out of me in that "learning" experience. So I stopped. One of my most favorite pastimes was to read the live journals here after I learned they were here. Now I am careful and cautious... well, mostly, all of the time.

It would be so wonderful to have a safe place to process and share but I don't think that can happen "online". Unfortunately.

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RE: Journals? "Forums"? - 1/31/2011 4:59:00 AM   
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i dont journal never have and master doesnt ask me to mainly because he would not consistantly read them. But i am expected to verbally tel him anything that may have gone in one anyway. I am also dyslexic and have a terrible time with writing and words. i get very emotionaly upset if i have to write too much he knows this holds me back as well and instead of writing things like journals he will try to get me to creative write only a few sentences he may give me a picture or soem words and i ahve to put it into some form of written word even if only a few lines.

i dont go to any forums not really intrested in meeting other subs locally and would rather not outmyself enver know who will attend. i do however go to one in secondlife and talk to ppeople a lot.

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