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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 8:56:34 AM   
petcerina


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Status: offline 		Here's what's going through my mind as i'm reading this: ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto.. oh and look.. ditto.  Go find someone else to pick on.  Submissives are too strong and smart to fall for it.

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 9:31:29 AM   
willowheart


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From: southern Minnesota
Status: offline 		Yes, submissives are strong, but not too strong to bend. And submissives are smart, but not smart enough  sometimes  to dumb-down the correct amount to be clearly understood by certain others...
As for honesty:
Have you created to atmosphere to be accepting of whatever is told to you?
Did you ignore the signs that the submissive was giving?
Have you been honest in all your dealings with the ones here?
Did your Wants take priority over and above her/his Needs?
Look into a mirror ---
(paraphrasing Shakespeare)
"The fault, [dear Sir], may not be in your stars... but in yourself"

though one may be a submissive, unless one is "Your" submissive, you really don't have the right to demand or expect the TOTAL and COMPLETE honesty. That is something that comes with trust and is earned.
Total honesty makes one pretty vulnerable... 

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 9:40:43 AM   
unquenchable


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

Is there such thing as an Honest sub? is there any sub anywhere in the world that can act like a responsible adult?


WOW, who stomped on your wheaties?

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 9:56:16 AM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		One of the hardest lessons one learns is that we attract what we do into our lives for a reason... Perhaps if you spent less time stereotyping and more time on a little self inventory you might find the honest you seek. But I think that is highly unlikely so just prepare yourself for another childish liar entering your life. Your words are powerful  and create your reality and you are condemning yourself to this... think about it..

And by the way, no submissive worth a shit is going to be attracted to a bitter soul, life is too short to spend it trying to make up for the mistakes of others. Bitterness is one of the ugliest traits a person can possess.

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 10:34:51 AM   
SweetEscravo


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Status: offline 		Oh crap you realized our secret....all subs are secretly whiney children who do our best to "act" like adults.....

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 10:39:25 AM   
darq


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quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdeltafire

Honesty in a slave?  Uh huh.  Dying breed.  Something in the genetics of this next generation.
Most couldn't spell honesty if their lives depended on it, and the word commitment if it was stamped on their asses.



Oh god now we have two of them.

Seriously, guys ... Get over it. Its the internet. Expect to be lied to. It WILL happen.

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So you found a girl who thinks really deep thoughts ...
Tell me, whats so amazing about really deep thoughts?

I speak my mind because it hurts to bite my tongue.

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 10:40:29 AM   
darq


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quote:

ORIGINAL: OTKkindaGirl

um..... let me try....

h-o-n-e-s-t-y ...... nope, no typos.... what was the other word....hmmm
c-o-m-m-i-t  :::lookin at ass in mirror::: m-e-n-t!!!!  it's so hard reading backwards!! 






This cracked me up ....

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So you found a girl who thinks really deep thoughts ...
Tell me, whats so amazing about really deep thoughts?

I speak my mind because it hurts to bite my tongue.

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 11:30:34 AM   
Halcyone


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quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdeltafire

Honesty in a slave?  Uh huh.  Dying breed.  Something in the genetics of this next generation.
Most couldn't spell honesty if their lives depended on it, and the word commitment if it was stamped on their asses.



This may come as a shock to a dominant such as yourself, but the submissives in this forum are not your whipping boys (or girls). Bitterness and generalizations aren't attractive at all.

This type of behaviour makes me wish they would open a rants and vents forum, to lure these sorts away.

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 11:38:32 AM   
kittensmailbox


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Status: offline 		You ONLY say such thing MasterDeltafire, because You have been hurt by someone....

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 11:47:28 AM   
BitaTruble


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quote:

Is there such thing as an Honest sub? is there any sub anywhere in the world that can act like a responsible adult?


You're the one who posted a few weeks ago about a submissive who flat out told you she was interested in someone else, then proceeded to go ahead and exert your 'domness' all over her anyway, despite the fact that she didn't welcome it and didn't want you.

Guess that didn't work out for you, huh? Color me shocked.

Celeste

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Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."


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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 11:47:49 AM   
LL1aintbehavin


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Status: offline 		To start a rant such as this speaks of a Master that has found deceipt.  For that i am sorry for, but it does happen in this forum.  Not everyone is what they represent here, that is a sad truth of the internet.
If any sub/slave that had ever been lied to came in here and whined about all Masters and Dominants being liars and not adult, that would certainly make sure that no one would want any contact with them in the future.
The true qualities of a mature adult is to accept what has happened and let the blame lay where it deserves, in the one that disappointed them, not in a a large group as you have indicated.
Now be a good Master, get up, dust yourself off and try again and learn from the experience.
I'd say i am honest and believe in commitment, but then again would you believe me?? Probably not as i have been lumped into the deceipt pile with the rest of my sisters/brothers in service to others.
By the way, are you getting the reaction that you expected from your post???

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 12:02:17 PM   
Wulfchyld


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benji! Here boy! Where is that good dog with his dozen links?
 
Okay buddy, here is the deal. You have made the cardinal F*ck up of the forums. You came in here, where all the sub/slaves come to garner insights into your character, and started to whine and rant. If you were or are a religious man, go tell it to the mountain. However, do not piss and whine in here. You have had one or a few bad encounters, welcome to the WWW. Has it occurred to you that, perhaps, the sub/slaves in question have discerned, through communication, that you are un-domly or weak? If you whining in here, I am sure you have exhibited control (or lack there of) issues in your correspondence. Now I have no choice put to sick the K9 unit on you, and after he is done peeing on your leg you just need to find a new pic, reevaluate who you are and what you know (or don’t) trash your profile and start again.
 
Loki, the forum god of mischief

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 12:05:01 PM   
Wulfchyld


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

Is there such thing as an Honest sub? is there any sub anywhere in the world that can act like a responsible adult?


You're the one who posted a few weeks ago about a submissive who flat out told you she was interested in someone else, then proceeded to go ahead and exert your 'domness' all over her anyway, despite the fact that she didn't welcome it and didn't want you.

Guess that didn't work out for you, huh? Color me shocked.

Celeste



*Paints her a shocking blue!*

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 12:50:17 PM   
spankmepink11


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Status: offline 		Unfortunately MrSteed, You've chosen the wrong forum to voice Your concerns.  To come into the "ask a submissive/slave forum, making an inflamatory blanket statement such as Yours  results in the type of replies i've read.  
 I'd be willing to bet a weeks paycheck  (wow... as an  Adult..i work... and have owned my own business for over 5 yrs... uh oh...commitment???)
that whomever was dishonest with You  does NOT  frequent the forums so Your  point is more or less moot . 
 It's unfortunate that this occurs...but it DOES occur, we chalk it up to experience and  a lesson learned...and drive on.
In the future...You might try posting on the ask a Dominant forum...seeking advice on what signs or  red flags to look for to better prepare Yourself to discern the players  from those that are sincere...and  avoid  the verbal spankings You've received.
have a great day  

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 1:30:16 PM   
puella


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Status: offline 		Another one of these sorts of posts....

John... what was the real reason you asked this question?  What was the actual question you wanted to ask? 

You know very well that there are honest subs... to think otherwise is beyond silly and to even ask it is probably more of a cry for soothing/attention than anything else.

So... here is your attention (sorry the soothing is lacking, I'm a bit tart today.) 

What's wrong then?  She lied I take it?

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 2:13:32 PM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		Sorry your feeling frustrated...I dont think your problem lays just in submissives..what your describing is a general fault of human nature and can be found across the board..saying that, sure there are trustworthy people and people who are mature. If you keep finding yourself getting involved with dishonest, immature people maybe your discernment capabilities need to be fine tuned.

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 2:30:07 PM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		oh for crying out loud!! listen up now johnboy, your whining and ranting has only served to lower your respect level to approximately -10 for all the decent intelligent submissives that come into this forum to contribute something real AND honest! Did you ever think for just oooooooooooone itty bitty moment before you hit enter, that by making such a negative generalization that would get ALL submissives panties/thongs/boxers/you get the general idea, in a bunch you would be defeating your own purpose. I know that many of the Dominas on this site tend to know one another, respect one another, AND keep in close contact with one another, as they are friends. Now, that being said. I know if I met a submissive that I thought would be perfect for one of my friends I just might give them a nudge in that direction. Being a thinking woman I tend to think that perhaps all the ever-so-intelligent (no sarcasm intended there at all )submissives and slaves on here just might think along those same lines. In fact, considering that several of them are also MY friends I KNOW they do!! Soooo, not only have you shown yourself to be a weak whiny individual, you have kinda shot yourself in the foot. You have yet to find an honest mature submissive for whatever reason (I can only guess ) and now you have alienated yourself from a good number of them here. ..........I am reminded of a line in a movie " Big  BIG mistake, HUGE!!" 

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 2:46:38 PM   
puella


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Status: offline 		Hey... what does that leave us who go commando?

Great post, LaTigress, as usual, nipped it, thoughtfully, in the bud!

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 2:58:26 PM   
Wulfchyld


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Being a thinking woman I tend to think that perhaps all the ever-so-intelligent (no sarcasm intended there at all )submissives and slaves on here just might think along those same lines.


Never a more true statement made. It is my experience that sub/slaves are very intelligent. I think the absence of  (aggressive) ego gives them the advantage of always or often bettering themselves. The worst sycophants I find are vanilla women. I love to be met by an intellectual mind and sub/slaves girls often have that.

Respectively

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RE: Honesty and the submissive - 5/2/2006 3:06:27 PM   
BitaTruble


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quote:

I am reminded of a line in a movie " Big  BIG mistake, HUGE!!" 


::hums the theme from Pretty Woman::

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"Oh, so it's just like
Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."


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