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RapierFugue -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 11:28:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll
*double boggle*

I think the borg mother ship is calling.


I am dyslexic of Borg.
Resistors are fertile.
Prepare to have your arse laminated.

NB: Yes, I know I've done that gag before, but it's one of my faves, so WTF :)




FukinTroll -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 11:31:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll
*double boggle*

I think the borg mother ship is calling.


I am dyslexic of Borg.
Resistors are fertile.
Prepare to have your arse laminated.

NB: Yes, I know I've done that gag before, but it's one of my faves, so WTF :)



That thar is sum funny shit!
And yes, that previous quote did bake my noodle an is so far from my field of thinking I cannot wrap my simple lil mind around it.




RapierFugue -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 11:34:25 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll
And yes, that previous quote did bake my noodle an is so far from my field of thinking I cannot wrap my simple lil mind around it.


Well then we're either equally stupid, or both geniuses, coz it fandango-fucked my noggin too.




FukinTroll -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 11:47:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll
And yes, that previous quote did bake my noodle an is so far from my field of thinking I cannot wrap my simple lil mind around it.


Well then we're either equally stupid, or both geniuses, coz it fandango-fucked my noggin too.


Kinda made me think of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj5CY94s8mU




RapierFugue -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 11:56:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll
Kinda made me think of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj5CY94s8mU


[:D]

It's a dreadful generalisation, but I find people's general attitude towards others is often projection; in other words, what they think about their fellow human beings is often a fair reflection of how they feel about things themselves.




FukinTroll -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 12:02:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

[:D]

It's a dreadful generalisation, but I find people's general attitude towards others is often projection; in other words, what they think about their fellow human beings is often a fair reflection of how they feel about things themselves.


He shoots, he scores!
Simpatico RF.




RapierFugue -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 12:03:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

[:D]

It's a dreadful generalisation, but I find people's general attitude towards others is often projection; in other words, what they think about their fellow human beings is often a fair reflection of how they feel about things themselves.


He shoots, he scores!
Simpatico RF.



You think everyone else is a cunt too eh? Sweet!

;)




FukinTroll -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 12:07:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

You think everyone else is a cunt too eh? Sweet!

;)


LOL! Yew know that gets muh warts tae itchin! Friggin sadist.




NihilusZero -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 12:50:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

Well then we're either equally stupid, or both geniuses, coz it fandango-fucked my noggin too.

The idea a simplified expression of the fact that most people begin relationships with an intangible element of attraction that morphs into a projection of an ideal onto the person we're attracted to (even in more sensible mindsets, the brain is almost inevitably drawn to fast-forward when we're getting to know someone we like to the point of overlapping whatever relationship ideal we have onto them...it's a pretty standard human emotional process).

Over time, the actual "person" becomes more apparent and compatibilities are either discovered to still be there or are discovered to be (or have been) illusory since the beginning phase where there was a holographic projection of them (and what we wished for them to be to us) began.

I could even technically get into the issue of how humans inevitably function only via offshoots of a solipsistic world-perception...but that might get too fandangoed.




NihilusZero -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 12:57:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

...but I find people's general attitude towards others is often projection; in other words, what they think about their fellow human beings is often a fair reflection of how they feel about things themselves.

Odd. This is basically what was being said in the first place.

Were you actually aware of this from the beginning while deciding to play ping pong with the idea in a humorously cynical way, or is the parallel not apparent?

Just curious, because if it's the former, that makes for a personal change of perception that might be necessary (since only those who spend enough time on the forua of internet communities are typically familiar with certain internet personality/character-types, and thereby able to discern where a certain brand of irreverent humor is part of a persona an individual is known to (dis)play [e.g. Domi, FukinTroll] rather than it just being a poor grasp of logic by someone, coupled with the propensity to bolster it with mid-grade humor).




RapierFugue -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:05:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero
I could even technically get into the issue of how humans inevitably function only via offshoots of a solipsistic world-perception...but that might get too fandangoed.


Nah, don't bother. I'm bored enough already.




RapierFugue -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:07:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

Just curious, because if it's the former, that makes for a personal change of perception that might be necessary (since only those who spend enough time on the forua of internet communities are typically familiar with certain internet personality/character-types, and thereby able to discern where a certain brand of irreverent humor is part of a persona an individual is known to (dis)play [e.g. Domi, FukinTroll] rather than it just being a poor grasp of logic by someone, coupled with the propensity to bolster it with mid-grade humor).


There are at least 2 other options you haven't considered.

Give me a shout when you've worked out what they are.




sexyred1 -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:15:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527
In my experience, most people really aren't even able to see the other gender at all as a "person".


*Boggle*

Our experiences do not concur.

No idea which one of us that makes right, or even maybe we're both wrong, but still; not my experience at all, and I don't mean just me, but just about every couple I know.

Now the former couples yes, maybe.



I think you may not have read the entire post from leadership527. Would you disagree that most people, when they first meet, have an idealized view of what they hope they will find in a relationship?  I believe that is true for everyone on the planet.

It does not mean that you STAY in that mode; some do, some move forward when they start finding out more about the other person.

I think it would be far too idealistic to think otherwise; everyone goes into things with a modicum of idealism which then goes into different directions, such as cynicism that they may not find their ideal that they think they need for happiness, or it goes to negativism and frustration, or best of all, they find they are pleasantly surprised at someone they did not think would fit their ideal.

But overall, I don't find his comment to be that mind boggling.




RapierFugue -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:18:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Would you disagree that most people, when they first meet, have an idealized view of what they hope they will find in a relationship? 


Well obviously I don't know how the rest of the planet does things*, but personally? No, I wouldn't say that was true.

*This is a lie, but WTF ;)




RCdc -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:22:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Would you disagree that most people, when they first meet, have an idealized view of what they hope they will find in a relationship? 


Well obviously I don't know how the rest of the planet does things*, but personally? No, I wouldn't say that was true.

*This is a lie, but WTF ;)


Maybe this is a cultural thing?




RapierFugue -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:23:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RCdc
Maybe this is a cultural thing?



You mean like yeast, right? :) <------ just for you ;)




sexyred1 -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:25:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
Would you disagree that most people, when they first meet, have an idealized view of what they hope they will find in a relationship? 


Well obviously I don't know how the rest of the planet does things*, but personally? No, I wouldn't say that was true.

*This is a lie, but WTF ;)


Of course one can never assume what an entire planet thinks, but that is just semantics. I was curious to hear more of your thought process , but that is ok if you don't want to share. [;)]




RCdc -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:25:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RapierFugue


quote:

ORIGINAL: RCdc
Maybe this is a cultural thing?



You mean like yeast, right? :) <------ just for you ;)


[:-]

Love or hate it... [:D]





DesFIP -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:27:20 PM)

I don't think it would bother me for someone I met to have a pre-existing idea in his mind of what he needs in a partner. IF, and you know there has to be an if, he actually had enough insight and self awareness to really make an accurate representation of what he needed. I think we all have some idea of what we need in a partner and screen others to not waste their time and happiness, or our own, by getting involved in a relationship guaranteed to implode.

I like women, as friends. I've clicked with several women very well indeed. But I am sufficiently self aware to know that I'm straight as an arrow and couldn't have a romantic relationship with another woman. As a result, I wouldn't agree to date another woman because it wouldn't be fair to her.




sexyred1 -> RE: Looking for a dynamic or a person? (1/26/2011 1:30:41 PM)

I agree Des, I was just curious as to why others were surprised that many people have trouble actually seeing a person for who they really are, vs. a projection of what they want them to be.

I have seen that happen time and time again to friends of mine and I have also met people who had trouble seeing me, vs. what they wanted me to be.

I think there is a big difference between being self aware of what you need vs. failing to see the reality of the person in front of you.




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